Do you have games in your Steam library that you want to play, but you can't due to hardware limitations?
As a beta tester and active player of GeForce now I have to say that nearly nothing has changed after the release. Bought the founders pack and on the site was stated that it now has rtx, no queue, etc.. but it still sucks, like a lot... Metro Exodus ran absolutely like a trash. I have 300mbit/s Internet and I live in eastern Europe.
I highly recommend against that service, as this price absolutely gives you nothing and in virtually it would be cheaper just to go to the LAN center or buy a normal pc.
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Metro Exodus ran absolutely like a trash. I have 300mbit/s Internet and I live in eastern Europe.
Streaming is more latency dependent than speed unless the transfer speed varies widely or dips under what is recommended. So it sounds like you are complaining about latency issues, which I understand is totally unexpected in a region like yours where connection speeds can be better than most of the world.
I highly recommend against that service, as this price absolutely gives you nothing and in virtually it would be cheaper just to go to the LAN center or buy a normal pc.
If I didn't upgrade my i5-3570 and GTX 680 but wanted to play the latest games without a CPU bottleneck or significant graphical limitations, I can pay $60 USD for a year or two instead of $600 for a new parts (i5 9600, RTX 2060, mobo, 16GB DDR4). Whether someone uses GeForce Now or upgrades they would still have to buy games either way, so I'm not including the prices of games in the comparison.
Yes, GeForce Now sucks if you get a bunch of lag or graphical quality issues like it sounds like you have
...but if you don't, GeForce Now can be a cheaper gaming solution for years compared to upgrading your PC.
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I can pay $60 USD for a year or two instead of $600 for a new parts
Pay 60$ a year and what next? If you want to play AAA games, then you still have to pay for them and most of them cost exactly the same price annual subscription of this service costs. You covered that aspect, I just wanted to emphasise that.
If you buy a PC you can have access not only to videogames, but to a whole world of possibilities to the other digital stuff.
Moreover, while having your own PC, you can use a newly-released service called Xbox Game Pass. And to my mind, if you are a gamer that is on tight budget, an Xbox would be a ideal solution.
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Pay 60$ a year and what next? If you want to play AAA games, then you still have to pay for them and most of them cost exactly the same price annual subscription of this service costs.
...and if you upgrade your computer, you still have to pay for the games. That's why I said:
Whether someone uses GeForce Now or upgrades [their PC] they would still have to buy games either way, so I'm not including the prices of games in the comparison.
So to clarify:
Total cost playing games with GeForce Now with existing older PC = $60/year + $X cost of games.
Total cost playing games with an upgraded PC = $600 up front + $X cost of games.
$X is the same cost in both scenarios, therefore we can disregard that, and just compare $60/year to $600 up front cost.
The price doesn't "absolutely gives you nothing" as you claim, as it does give you the ability to play games without having to upgrade an older PC like mine. So in this case it is false that it would "be cheaper just to just...buy a normal pc".
If you buy an PC you can have access not only to videogames, but to a whole world of possibilities to the other digital stuff.
You are leaving out the possibility of older systems like mine (3.8GHz, 16 GB of DDR3 RAM) can already handle the other digital stuff that most people would want but not graphic or CPU intensive modern games, and so there's nothing other than games that I and other people would want to upgrade our PCs for.
You also forgot to consider people with laptops that want to game but don't want to pay to get a separate desktop PC or pay far more to get a new laptop that's just as good as a modern gaming desktop.
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And what's the problem in buying a new GPU(in older systems like yours)?
I answered that previously:
If I didn't upgrade my i5-3570 and GTX 680 but wanted to play the latest games without a CPU bottleneck or significant graphical limitations, I can pay $60 USD for a year or two [of GeForce Now] instead of $600 for a new parts
Even if I upgraded one, the other one would be a bottleneck for on AAA games. Game Pass doesn't solve both those bottlenecks. GeForce Now does.
Just because you can't relate to people with older systems that would have to upgrade CPU+Mobo+GPU in order to play current AAA games doesn't mean "this price absolutely gives you nothing" for GeForce Now.
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Some people, myself included don't have a current or next gen console, but have an older PC.
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"I don't want to buy a current gen console because that would mean I would have to buy a TV."
"What's the problem with buying a TV? TVs can be had for $150-200..."
"Some people like me live in a one bedroom apartment with very little space. With a desk, bed, table, etc., there's isn't room left for a TV."
"And what's the problem with moving to a bigger apartment? Bigger apartments can be had for $150-200 more a month..."
I find this entire exchange very amusing and figured I give a prediction where this rabbit hole may go. Your patience and tenacity to continue articulating a position that another person can't relate or grasp is admirable.
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I found the top-level comment to be a myopic enthusiast-centric almost "nvidia man bad" take, and I happened to relate to the target customer of this product even if I'm not particularly a fan of it or Nvidia. So I thought I'd present another perspective in case they cared to understand.
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The only use case I'd have for such a service would be for when I'm traveling with my Windows tablet that doesn't have the power to run graphically intensive games, but, even so, gaming is not really the focus while traveling and the lag would probably be pretty high unless on a wired connection.
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there are moments when I enter directly in game and there are moments when I can't even be on the waiting list because there are 499 people in queue.
My main frustration is that, it should somehow remember your login on Steam/Uplay after you linked your account with Geforce Now. Having 2FA on steam makes me spend a few minutes until I login into Steam and switch between applications (Steamguard and Now, both on mobile).
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Portugal..about 20-40 people in queue
I get 45ms...im just surprised it controled fine with no noticeable lag, even if pixelated to shit
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Shadow Blade much better.
Unlimited session (only a limitation - 1,5 hours of inactivity), can install the games / applications what you want.
Since Beta, little has changed in GeForce Now. A cloud in the form of a virtual machine, the IaaS model is much more attractive.
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Unlimited session
So does Geforce Now, if you use the paid option. It's also much cheaper. Shadow is great if you need a complete PC. Geforce Now maybe makes more sense if you are only interested in streaming games.
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You can choose France (Paris datacenter) or Germany (Netherlands datacenter).
And what’s important is the constant storage. All data is stored in the cloud, although the capacity is still small 255 GB (Windows 10 and soft also use this space), all saves, all screenshots, musics from free weekends, mods and much more. A huge number of games, even in Steam, do not have cloud saves, or even if they do, they only save overall progress, without checkpoints, without saves files. Playing "Groundhog Day" is not a pleasant experience (Rising Storm 2: Vietnam, Arma 3 as an example).
Call of Duty series was removed from the Geforce Now, Battlefield series, like all the games from Origin, has never been. What is it special to play? In addition, there is no guarantee that instead of adding new games, they will NOT DELETE support of current games.
And yes, $5 a month is a promotional price, after it will be $15. In Russia-CIS, datacenters of the former local Mining farms, the new "partners" of Nvidia affordable only price ~$15/month.
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Tested the service on my shield tablet K1 and is awe-so-me , no lag no input lag and 60 fps without problems. Tested with a XBOX 360 Gamepad with the Games Soul Calibur VI and Doom 2016.
My internet connection was Wi-Fi and i have 600 Mbps but i was seeing youtube on my TV at the same time i was playing to force the test. Only 1 second of stuttering in the 2 hours i was playing these 2 games (1 hour each)
In the weekend i will try to connect my shield tablet K1 to the TV and play on it using Geforce Now to test in console mode, I suppose it will work well but to test if there are bugs or something on this.
If in the future we can play VR games with the service and do not have motion sickness (you need to mantain high framerate) i will pay the subscription for sure to play them on max high quality
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It's mainly targeted at people who don't have capable hardware. Look at the Steam hardware survey. It's full of people with old laptops that can't run modern AAA games. And even hardcore gamers might enjoy the possibility to play their games on a cheap laptop in a hotel, or on a NVidia Shield. But I agree that it's definitely not for everyone. I have a decent PC and don't need streaming. And while the mobile aspect is interesting, I can just play on my phone on the go.
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That's exactly my experience too. On the go, I'll just play a casual phone game.
At home, decent hardware is very affordable these days, I'd rather save up and get a half-decent PC I own and can use for heaps other stuff, than pay a sub to any company that needs to find the "next-best-thing" so that their board of shareholders is happy
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At home, decent hardware is very affordable these days
Well, not for everyone. If streaming means, people who can't afford a 1000$ PC can still play the games as if they had one, then I am all for it.
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can't they just use LAN center
You mean if I am on a business trip and worked all day, instead of a relaxed hour of gaming in my hotel room before I go to bed, I should rather drive 30km to the next LAN center, where other people are loud and annoy me and I have to use periphery that 20 people used before on that day? No thanks. Playing on a laptop at the desk or even in bed seems way more convenient.
or buy Xbox
But I have my games on PC, not on XBox. And maybe I don't want to travel with extra weight. Especially if I fly somewhere, how am I supposed to bring the XBox plus controller and power supply when my case if full of clothes and my hand baggage is my laptop? Again - streaming seems way more convenient here.
The obvious downside in those examples is bad hotel WLAN, which happens often enough. Streaming is pretty much out of the question if you only get 1 MBit in your room. ;)
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U are just here talking about a thing called Nintendo Switch. Why would someone use Geforce Now while being on a trip in a hotel room with a shady wifi?
If you have your games on PC(especially the ones that your pc can't run => they are high-end games worth more than 30$ each), then you shouldn't have any problem buying gaming laptop or am I wrong?
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Sure, one could buy a gaming laptop for 2000$. Or just use a streaming service. That service may be worse than a proper laptop, sure. But not everyone wants to invest 2000$ if he's only in hotels every few months.
The thing is, you can of course buy proper hardware. I have a pretty good PC myself, always buy new hardware if needed and I have no intention of changing that anytime soon. So streaming at home - don't need it. But I could actually see myself using it occassionally in hotels, if I didn't have a really good work laptop from the company (Razer Blade with i7 and RTX 2060). I can play on that just fine. But maybe some other people have a laptop with dedicated graphics and actually have a better experience with GeforceNow or similar services. It's not for me (although I find it very interesting from a technical standpoint). But I can easily imagine that it can be very useful for certain people.
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https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/yfC0L/nvidia-geforce-now/search?page=2#febstSj
If you want to listen to music or watch a video, then even a raspberry pi can do that for 30$. Cmon, every office laptop can do that. Moreover, Geforce NOW, only offers you ability to play games.
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I agree who the target audience is and that its not for everyone, though I wonder...
Look at the Steam hardware survey. It's full of people with old laptops that can't run modern AAA games.
Which stats show specs from old laptops?
If true, old laptop specs I would expect to see with higher % would be: Intel integrated graphics (but that's maybe a few percent total), single monitor resolution less than 1080p (but only ~10% have 1366 x 768), 2 CPUs (only 21%).
Total Hard Drive Space might be the best chance at implying lots of laptops using Steam since ~50% in the survey have less than 1 TB total, but SSDs have been out for quite a while, so what's not to say this is because of SSD usage?
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A lot of people not send every year system information to Valve.
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I usually go by display resolution, since the GPU stats are way harder to read (too many different GPUs, high "other" percentage). If you add up the resolutions that are most likely laptop, you get something around 15%. That's already a substantial customer base. Going by CPUs might make more sense, since we can assume that all computers - not just laptops - with 2 or less CPUs are not really capable of playing modern AAA games. 21% - I find that pretty high.
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I agree that display resolution would be the best indicator, as desktops or their displays would have to be pretty old to default to <=768 px high.
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1366 x 768 and similar is a laptop resolution in 90% cases.
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GEFORCE NOW IS CURRENTLY NOT SUPPORTED IN YOUR REGION.
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What do you think? Is this the future of gaming?
It's the future of "you have no control over your computer anymore"
But it will probably work. Because people don't care about philosophical issues as long as they are rewarded a few bucks for not caring.
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Grand Thef Auto and World Of Warcraft got pulled off
SQUARE ENIX and Activision are not on the boat
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i only use it to try demanding games on high settings:
DOOM
Hitman 1,2
Wolfenstein
Shadow of Mordor (2 games)
Project cars 2
Metro 2033 + Last Light (redux)
Dishonored DotO + 2
and
Mafia 3
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From what it seems the push should be more towards the publishers or the developers. Considering that some of those games worked before but then were removed it makes me think that some of it is due to some exclusivity or wanting to keep some control.
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in Mexico, i pay usd$20 for a 10M internet , GeForce NOW requires at least 15 Mbps for 720p at 60fps and 25 Mbps for 1080p at 60fps.
i need to wait network update to optic fiber , in some cities 100 - 200 Mb are available, internet company has 320,000 kilometers of optic fiber , but not near to me 😀.
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In Russia there is 14-days trial and ~$16 per month ($157 for 1 year)
Definitely it doesn't worth it
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In Russia and CIS works local russian "partner", NOT Nvidia. But yes, GFN.ru not worth this money.
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The free plan could be good for limiting children playtime, don't need to hawk over our children or buy expensive rigs for them to use.
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Geforce Now is a service where I borrow a computer to run my own games. Is it just me that thinks it's a real weird thing for the publisher of those games to try and dictate where I am allowed to run the games I've purchased on my own? What gives them the right to choose which computer is okay and which isn't?
This whole things feels anti-consumer like crazy, not to mention that it's a slippery slope. What's next? Games that only run on specific hardware from one manufacturer? Publishers shouldn't be allowed to decide these things.
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What's next? Games that only run on specific hardware from one manufacturer?
Console exclusives have been doing that for decades and many VR games only support one type of headset
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So, i got an email from nvidia saying something about GeForce Now.
At first i thought "this is gonna crash and burn like stadia" and i gave it a try waiting for screen tearing, input lag or loss of connection, but the service was solid.
The process was pretty straightforward:
In the past I tried to play Mafia III on my 960m at 1080p with all settings on low and failed with 15fps or less.
Now with GFN i was able to play at 1080p on ultra with solid 60fps, with no input lag at all (thanks to my gigabit internet).
The downside is that you can only play selected games (probably due to regional laws and rating stuff).
What do you think? Is this the future of gaming?
GeForce Now website
A small giveaway → Clicky
My speedtest looks like this
There are 2 plans:
The free plan lets you play for an hour / session, you need to wait in the queue to be able to play and you don't have RTX.
The paid plan removes those restrictions.
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