By the sounds of it there are 2 different storylines and the possibility of either playing stealthily or guns blazing. Just what I heard.
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Yeah I read that too, but look at the gameplay. You walk in a forward direction, pick up guns, kill enemies. Maybe you get to pick a few different paths, which change up the story. But overall it looks like game design from the 2000s not 2014. Everything is scripted, AI is mentally challenged, image explanations within the game.
I was just playing the original Dues Ex yesterday, and the AI there from what I saw is better than what I am seeing in these playthrough videos.
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The thing that I think looks good about it is the fact that it's a bit old school. As in you need to pick up health to stay alive instead of it just regenerating. Probably won't get it, but it don't look too bad imo.
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I haven't seen any gameplay, but all I can hope is that they stay true to previous games in the series.(except the last one) But if I were you I would wait for a sale anyway like you already said.
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I wouldn't base your opinions off of random videos on YT. Chances are the people playing have it on a low, if not the lowest difficulty setting, making the AI look like retards and the whole game look like a cakewalk which you can simply waltz through in a straight line. In fact, the game is MEANT to be explored. Sure, some of the levels are pretty linear, but there are so many esater eggs and what not to find in out of the way areas.
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I don't miss the complicated levels of old games. It's not really all that entertaining to search for 25 minutes for a key card, or secret wall panel.
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The story trailer looked good. Intriguing setting, it got me interested.
Then the other trailer came out. It was meant to show how you could play either stealthily or take a more direct approach. The only thing I could really see was an ugly and plain level. It turned me off completely.
I don't mind playing a linear game from time to time, as long as it has nice setting and flavor (Bioshock Infinite, to say one), but that ugly and generic zone looked like a bad Alpha Access game. :/
I really hope for them they picked a bad level to show. :)
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It doesn't look like a rail shooter to me...seems like it has stealth also which usually means various ways of going across a level.
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The stealth element looks tacked on to me and very basic, you can crouch and go behind a enemy and knife them. In the video you can see the enemy turning to the side which in any realistic scenario make you visible but they don't see you. I don't think you can kill every enemy in stealth anyways, because it all looks pretty scripted.
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Well, usually in games they use cones for vision rather than semi-circles...
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I've been downloading for 10 hours, yes 10 hours. It just finished downloading 5 minutes ago, and now it says 20 minutes till it's ready to launch for some reason. They really should've released the pre-load earlier, especially with the size of the game. But oh well, I'll finally be able to play it in 15 minutes! :D I just had to rant about the downloading part.
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I saw that earlier, he did a good job explaining it and generally agree with TB 90% of the time. The initial playthroughs I saw the game appeared more linear than TB's video, I'm guessing I was watching the first levels. However I still see the game as being quite linear, I think the stealth part isn't that great and very simple, the AI is very poor.
This game appears to be quite similar to Prey, Quake 4, Doom 3, Rage, Duke Nukem Forever as far as progression and in some ways graphics. I played all of these games, thought they were okay for the time but it's a shame that a modern FPS in 2014 is still so linear with such crappy AI. For $60 it seems extremely expensive for maybe 20 hours of single player. That's $3 per an hour of gameplay. If it was priced in the $20-$30 price range on launch it would make sense, especially since there is no multiplayer or co-op or anything else really.
I also noticed in TB's video the level design is a little bland at times, textures aren't that great in certain areas as well. It's reminiscent of a basic corridor shooter. That weapon that cuts into certain areas looks interesting, but I'm sure it's mostly a gimmick. They took many concepts from COD games and combined it with 90s shooters.
I would like to see a story driven FPS single player game that places you in a large area, and let's you progress in a non linear fashion. Something that has multiple exit points, something that allows you to go back. I want to see really intelligent enemies. If they have low hp, they run away and attempt to get reinforcements. They run out of ammo, they try to find other weapons. I want to see enemies that do not spawn in areas magically but have some explanation how they got there, especially if you backtrack and all of a sudden there are a dozen enemies teleporting into an area. I want to see level destruction, why can't I blow open that door when I have a rocket launcher, or make a huge hole in the wall to enter a room.
Maybe I am asking for too much. I've been a huge fan of Wolf, Doom, Duke and Quake games all my life. But it's time to make them more interesting, the forumala for these games seems to have gone backwards in some ways. You have smaller levels, more hand holding, the same stupid AI from 1996 and zero innovation. At least when Half-Life2 was released there was some interesting physics and unique weapons. But now it's all been done before and it's getting boring.
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Machine Games is a new studio, so I wouldn't judge the game before actually playing it yourself. The studio is made up of several people from Starbreeze Studios, the creators of The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay and The Darkness. Both of those games had multiple choices for how you could play the game and were both strong in terms of narrative. I still regard Escape from Butcher Bay as one of my favourite games of all time which is why I have confidence Wolfenstein: The New Order will impress me.
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Reviewers seem to like it:
Polygon – 9
Metro – 9
Ausgamers – 8.7
Gamespot – 8
GameInformer – 8
Xbox Achievements – 85/100
NowGamer – 8/10
Shack News – 8
CVG – 9/10
USGamer – 4/5
Time – 4/5
Gamesradar – 4/5
GodisaGeek – 8/10
TheSixthAxis – 7/10
OXM – 9/10
IGN – 7.8
Destructoid – 7.5
Eurogamer – 6
VideoGamer – 6
Joystiq – 3/5
DigitalSpy – 3/5
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Whatever rocks your boat. I personally prefer reviews of Polygon and shacknews since they have good reviewers and know what they are doing compared to 90% of reviewers on youtube.
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You realize a ton of youtube reviewers are getting paid off for their "reviews" right?
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I was going to buy it but then I noticed that there is no multiplayer.
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Well I can see if he has a monitor and specs that can do 120 it would be kinda annoying.
I mean why cap it seriously?
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but it can detect a little more than 60, so this really makes a difference.
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I advise you to play good games, not to count fps. If game is good 30fps is enough, 60fps is excellent, 120fps is blah.
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It's ok kid if you haven't tried it and have a good pc to sustain 120fps. But don't fucking talk like you know about 120fps if you haven't experienced it yourself.
It's also fucking pathetic that you are telling me to play good games when you're most played game is PvZ, which is a sign of poor fucking pc. I don't think you even own an AAA game in your library
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Like I said, I play good games. I most played PvZ because it's excellent game. Your post and profile are sign that you have excellent PC, but that you have poor taste in games & that you are actually a kid who thinks he is better than others if he has more expensive PC and more expensive, the so-called, AAA games. It's fu***** pathetic.
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If you are a bee or butterfly those can see every picture individually below 50 FPSs than i understand your problem.
Humans see continous motion above 24 FPSs.
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Much cring ongoing in Swicerland and Austria now that Valve/Bethesda give them an German-language-only cut version. Also it seems like its not starting, lol. 33% downvotes speak for themselves.
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I love how classic FPS are slowly coming back. But 60$ is way too expensive. I'm sure you'll get same amount of gun action fun and adrenaline from any games developed by People Can Fly or Flying Wild Hog.
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According to most of the reviews, seems like decent game so far, not sure if they did anything with atrocious AI but i'll see it for myself when i pick it up soon. Only thing that bothers me is that file size is waaaaay too big (40 GB) and how the game depicts nazis in a really negative light
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How else would you depict Nazis? Were you expecting them to be warm and fuzzy?
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Yeah, that instal size is something else, put this game and Titanfall together and they eat up 100 gigs of hd space, and I'm the type of person who tends to have 100+ games installed.
I don't get your comment about Nazis though, how else would you have them be portrayed, and why?
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I am still waiting for the game where you play as a Nazi going through the turmoil of dealing with it all, would make for an excellent story, might be pretty depressing though.
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Sadly, god forbid someone make something slightly controversial besides stupid crap like hookers in a gta game....
Meh...
:-/
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it's a shooter, what did you expect it to be? There's not much nonlinearity to shooters
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i guess you never played classic shooters like doom then.
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I did and i'm glad those days are over and the maps nowadays actually make some sense.
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with totally random layouts without any sense of actual architecture, those were the good old maps.
So yeah, one path through without senseless hallways and dead ends used only to hinder the actual gameplay with totally stupid need to look for colorful keys is actually a vast improvement to the shooters.
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Disagree 100 percent, it makes it boring, it was not random in most actually, better thought out if anything....
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I'm with you on this. I hate 1 corridor with all doors locked, but I am not a fan of 1000 rooms connected to each other with no sense or functionality whatsoever either. I want my map to looks like something functional, something that people would actually build and use.
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well, it's not as linear as most modern shooters. totalbiscuit, who usually hates modern FPS and adores the old-school ones, seems to like it. i guess that's a good sign. ;)
here in germany we have the problem that the game is censored, and they even prevented uncut versions from running with a german ip (prohibitrunincountries tag). i am seriously thinking about pirating again for the first time in a very long time... :(
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I pre purchased it and have already played for 8 hours. It is probably one of the best FPS games I have ever played.
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Probably not since he said "It is probably one of the best FPS games I have ever played."
Nice reading comprehension.
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Linearity is a thing of the past, it's OLD SCHOOL and that's exactly what this game is about: a blast from the past, a throwback to the good old Doom days. If you can't see that, it means you're not a real hardcore gamer, but more like new age hipster Call of Duty lover. Not all games can(or should) be sandboxes. The previous Wolfenstein game tried to be a sandbox and failed miserably. Getting back to basics in a franchise so respected among veteran FPS players(almost a legend) might be the key to success.
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GOTY. Sincerely. The gameplay is really fun, two different timelines and four unlockable challenging modes. But the story. That's what makes this a home run. If it were just killing nazis with really awesome guns on land, sea, and space that would be enough. But this game's plot so completely immerses you as the character of William J. Blazkowicz that you feel each pang of sorrow, each satisfying victory, his love and his loss.
Speaking of, yes as if they couldn't make this well rounded enough with dual wielding every gun AND the option to go completely stealthy, there's one of the best love stories I've ever seen in a game, let alone an fps. Even ignoring that relationship, the bonds you form with every member of the resistance are very memorable and each character grows throughout the story.
When I had finished the game, amidst my excitement and heartache, I discovered the hole in my heart this Wolfenstein: The New Order left me. I will be back to complete the other timeline, my 20 hours are not enough, yet now I cannot touch a single game. It is the feeling after you finish a really good book series, or movies, and you just savor the world that is gone from you now, a world you glimpsed into and shared a part of your soul with, a world that you carry with you long after it is done.
Get psyched.
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999 mode: 999% more Action, 999 starting health, unlimited ammo, Uber difficulty
Walk in the Park: Hud is disabled (execpt prompts for ammo and interaction), more focus on your senses to survive, I AM DEATH INCARNATE! difficulty
Hardcore mode: Health and armor pickups removed from the game, Uber diffculty
Ironman mode: One life, game over if you die, Uber difficulty
A really large portion of the game's exploration I spent finding these enigma codes, so even if you don't plan on playing these modes I entirely recommend hunting down the codes and completing them in the extras menu. Great fun to be had, made the secrets feel like they meant something, as opposed to previous Wolfensteins.
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One last question if you don't mind. I am one for completing a game 100%, but does it tell you what missions you have left to find collectibles on?
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Oh yeah, has a really slick menu both in game and from the menu telling you what is remaining in the game. Also there's a leaderboard, and a ranking for your completion at the end of the game. Currently, I'm like 212/ some thousand number with C ranking at 68% completed, I believe. Missed a few pesky letters, and some gold items.
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I finished 100% earlier today and I only did it because of what you mentioned. You can go back and replay each chapter, it will tell you which item you missed and they're in order so you can figure out the name of the item you missed. Once you get the item you dont have to wait for a save or anything like that you can just go back to the main menu.
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I have already played a couple of hours, and i think it's one of the best FPS ive played.
The story is good.
You can be stealth or just blast the s*** out of nazis.
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So sick of people throwing out terms like "linear" and "corridor shooter" like it makes a game somehow inherently bad.
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So Wolfenstein: The New Order is going to be released soon for PC on Steam.
I was considering getting it, but decided to check some of the playthroughs. The graphics look pretty good, but it looks like a railshooter. The gameplay appears to be insanely linear, really turned me off from buying it. Also I noticed images of new weapons you pickup flash up explaining how to use them, horrible design.
How do you guys feel? Anyone plan to purchase it or already pre-purchased it?
Also I don't see multiplayer listed, so it's basically $60 for a linear single player campaign...
Looks like it's going to be a pass for me, maybe pick it up for $5-$10 in a couple years just to see if I was right. I'm getting really annoyed that most of the single player games are so linear. I want smart AI, I want levels that can be explored, I don't want set paths.
Thoughts?
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