That's a loaded question. There are many kind of people, and knowing one fully is tough. Could easily give wrong type of help that could lead to worse things. There isn't one good right way to help people with depression. Even therapy isn't always successful since therapists are just people too.
Of course its not an easy question and I dont expect an easy answer, but a depression is more common than people think and can go by unnoticed, till it got much worse. And of course i dont want a panacea, I just want your opinion on it :)
Well pretty much sums up that since it is individual needs, can't give straight answer what to do or say.
However I think one needs to accept death and that suicide is a possibility when dealing with deeply depressed or suicidal person. But again could be wrong assumption depending on the person.
I don't know how to explain it, but sometimes understanding the person requires accepting death in a way. And then make good reasons why staying is greater. But this would only be for some people with suicidal thoughts, not for everyone with any kind of depression.
Don't mean it as you should say to someone to kill themselfs or anything of that sort. But accept different way of thinking from yourself. Maybe I would call it accepting depression.
But again each individual needs different kind of help. Some require compassion, some require exact opposite. It is the reason why it is important to seek help from professionals who know how to evaluate and help the person better. Atleast with greater chance to succeed in helping towards correct path.
Think someone who lost a loved one though requires different angle from what I was talking about though. Did the person lose someone through breakup or death? And was the death suicidal kind?
Deep topic that could be talked about a lot. Don't think I can be of much help though as I've only lost a friend and relatives(not close relatives) in past.
In any way good luck with helping your friend. Always remember to help yourself too.
It's hard, as someone who suffers from depression symptoms sometimes no matter someone says will help. Even though people mean well. Even as I say that it's always nice to know that someone cares and is there for you.
"I'm here for you, aren't I?"
Or something like that
Let him/her know that you're there for him/her, support, and help too
Well sometimes you don't need any words, just prove with your actions.. sometimes it's better
True words. Action speaks louder than words, especially for peoples with a depression. Thats why it can also be very hard for people who a close to people with a depression, normally these people need a lot of time and attention, and that is never easy to do.
Listening is a big part, thats true. But only listening may not help that much and many people may not understand why the person suffers from something that could be trivial for them.
Rather than saying something, show the person tht you are there for him/her and that you are willing to stay by his/her side, acompany them on the way likle when seeking professional help. Listen to the person and take the condition serious.
Thats right. It may not be easy to understand the problems of a person with a depression, but for them it is a serious condition. Taking that lightly could destroy people or friendships in a worst case scenario.
Aye ._. and our socielty has a tendency to treat mental problems as if they were a matter of decisions. But they are not, you don't decide to be depressed, or even suicidal. You can't just 'change' and it doesn't help that a lot of people seem to equal a mental problem with a phase.
I guess that's what makes it so hard to seek professional help. When you break a bone, you see the doctor and everyone agrees that that's necessary. When you're depressed, most people just say 'cheer up', or 'it's not that bad, you'll get better', some might even give you strange looks for seeing a psychologist. That's why so many seem to think that it's better to suffer silently u.u
Yes, it is still a big stigma having a psychology problem. When you hurt yourself it just need some time, your body heals itself and everything is fine. But the human mind dosnt work that way, you just cant put a bandaid on a depression and wait till it gets better and if nothing is done it can get very serious.
Somehow I have the feeling that you talk from experience, so I hope this can help people to be aware that anybody can suffer from a dperession, even with nobody even noticing it :-/
The picture is nice ^^ and describes really well how people try to help others :3
Well, I had my... let's call it, dark years. And I had some friends that suffered from psychological problems. Eating disorders, depression, suicidal tendencies... I know how people talked behind their backs, I know how I thought that no one would take it serious that at some point, I was certain to never be happy again... And most of all, I remember how I cried when my doctor explained my mother that it's not my mind that's sick (I mean, that I'm not insane, because that's what she thought a depression is), instead it's my soul that's suffering.
For the first time I felt as if someone took it serious and wanted to help me.
So yes, you explained it perfectly ^^ There is no bandaid for a soul and if a wounded soul isn't cared for... it usually get's worse, like an infection.
What I've learned from this very unpleasant time in my life is, that I will always take it serious if someone has psychological problems. I might not be able to cure them, but I can make sure that they don't feel alone in this situation and that it's perfectly fine to seek professional help.
This picture here is not the prettiest, but the message is great.
Well, can you blame them to be helpless? Most people try there best and try things that helped themself, they just dont know that it is not that easy :-/
iam sorry for your dark time, but it sounds that you at least got over that dark valley in your life and thats something great :) But jeah, your experience discribes perfectly why it is still a stigma to have a depression (or any other mental sickness) and why most people try to keep this to themself :(
Somehow that sounds like something to say to someone who just broke up with his girlfriend / boyfriend ^^ But beeing strong is difficult, because it could mean that he cant show his weakness (the deperssion), which could lead to make it worse :-/
I just don't understand the depression thing to be honest man. And I am not saying I have never had depression but depression didn't exist 100 years ago. When you don't have food or water or you are under war, do you have depression? There was a time in my life I didn't find any point living my life and I didn't like anything around me but that was because I didn't want to face my struggles because there were things that were bothering me. So what I am saying is that depression comes from other things and I just can't advice something so general and I believe that something that has worked for me was to put myself in another person's situation and to try think how is their life and how important are my problems. Image how would your life be without hands or fingers man. You wouldn't even be able to type with a keyboard or drink water or go to the toilet without help. I hope you understand my point and I didn't want to make things worse but this really helps me because i realize my problems are not so important as other people and that i should be happy with what I have :)
I hope i helped you or your friend and I understand depression is a nasty thing and it could need some help from an expert but many cases i believe are not very serious and using my way i believe puts you in a position that you can see things differently and feel better :)
It is no problem that you dont understand it. Trying to describe it is like beeing blind and getting described what colours are.
Of course it helps some people to see that other overcome bigger problems, but a depression isnt that easy. Some things are like a blockade, like a big fear you cant overcome. For other it seems ridiculous and like basic task, but for that person it is impossible.
And depressions are an old problem, there were kings who suffered from that (there are even theroies that Adolf Hitler suffered from Depression and Borderline). I think its more noticeable today, because we do much more research to how the human mind works.
After all, its ok to have an own opinion :) But maybe I can help to bring a little bit more understanding to the subject.
What would you say to someone who is suffering from a depression?: "I'm here for you."
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You are right, the best thing you can do is be there for that person :)
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It depends on what kind of depression that person is suffering from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(mood)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(weather)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(economics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depression_(physiology)
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How about any of these? :)
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Thank you! :D
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That's a loaded question. There are many kind of people, and knowing one fully is tough. Could easily give wrong type of help that could lead to worse things. There isn't one good right way to help people with depression. Even therapy isn't always successful since therapists are just people too.
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Of course its not an easy question and I dont expect an easy answer, but a depression is more common than people think and can go by unnoticed, till it got much worse. And of course i dont want a panacea, I just want your opinion on it :)
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Well pretty much sums up that since it is individual needs, can't give straight answer what to do or say.
However I think one needs to accept death and that suicide is a possibility when dealing with deeply depressed or suicidal person. But again could be wrong assumption depending on the person.
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Wow, that sound really harsh.
So you would accept the death / suicide of a loved person if he has a serious depression?
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I don't know how to explain it, but sometimes understanding the person requires accepting death in a way. And then make good reasons why staying is greater. But this would only be for some people with suicidal thoughts, not for everyone with any kind of depression.
Don't mean it as you should say to someone to kill themselfs or anything of that sort. But accept different way of thinking from yourself. Maybe I would call it accepting depression.
But again each individual needs different kind of help. Some require compassion, some require exact opposite. It is the reason why it is important to seek help from professionals who know how to evaluate and help the person better. Atleast with greater chance to succeed in helping towards correct path.
Think someone who lost a loved one though requires different angle from what I was talking about though. Did the person lose someone through breakup or death? And was the death suicidal kind?
Deep topic that could be talked about a lot. Don't think I can be of much help though as I've only lost a friend and relatives(not close relatives) in past.
In any way good luck with helping your friend. Always remember to help yourself too.
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All in all it is a very complicated and extensive topic, thats for sure.
And helping someone is not that easy either
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Nicely summed up. :)
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Gracias!
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Thanks :)
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It's hard, as someone who suffers from depression symptoms sometimes no matter someone says will help. Even though people mean well. Even as I say that it's always nice to know that someone cares and is there for you.
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Thats true, the most support you can give is being there for that person.
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Thank you!
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thanks!
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Thanks ^^
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Thanks ^^
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"I'm here for you, aren't I?"
Or something like that
Let him/her know that you're there for him/her, support, and help too
Well sometimes you don't need any words, just prove with your actions.. sometimes it's better
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True words. Action speaks louder than words, especially for peoples with a depression. Thats why it can also be very hard for people who a close to people with a depression, normally these people need a lot of time and attention, and that is never easy to do.
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thanks!
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Thank you.
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Thanks
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Thank you very much indeed! ☺
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"Better luck next life"
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Thanks ^^
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Thanks!
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"get professional help"
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Well, in most cases that would help, but saying it bluntly could really hurt people.
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Well, you don't have to put it like that, you can say it less bluntly.
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yes, of course, but beeing insensitive about it could scare them off, because getting professional help is still a stigma nowadays.
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It's not really what you say to someone who is suffering from depression. It is more about listening to what they have to say
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Listening is a big part, thats true. But only listening may not help that much and many people may not understand why the person suffers from something that could be trivial for them.
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thanks :D
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Rather than saying something, show the person tht you are there for him/her and that you are willing to stay by his/her side, acompany them on the way likle when seeking professional help. Listen to the person and take the condition serious.
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Thats right. It may not be easy to understand the problems of a person with a depression, but for them it is a serious condition. Taking that lightly could destroy people or friendships in a worst case scenario.
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Aye ._. and our socielty has a tendency to treat mental problems as if they were a matter of decisions. But they are not, you don't decide to be depressed, or even suicidal. You can't just 'change' and it doesn't help that a lot of people seem to equal a mental problem with a phase.
I guess that's what makes it so hard to seek professional help. When you break a bone, you see the doctor and everyone agrees that that's necessary. When you're depressed, most people just say 'cheer up', or 'it's not that bad, you'll get better', some might even give you strange looks for seeing a psychologist. That's why so many seem to think that it's better to suffer silently u.u
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Yes, it is still a big stigma having a psychology problem. When you hurt yourself it just need some time, your body heals itself and everything is fine. But the human mind dosnt work that way, you just cant put a bandaid on a depression and wait till it gets better and if nothing is done it can get very serious.
Somehow I have the feeling that you talk from experience, so I hope this can help people to be aware that anybody can suffer from a dperession, even with nobody even noticing it :-/
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c9/24/1f/c9241f83dad1af78d34f0a28b646ee30.jpg
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The picture is nice ^^ and describes really well how people try to help others :3
Well, I had my... let's call it, dark years. And I had some friends that suffered from psychological problems. Eating disorders, depression, suicidal tendencies... I know how people talked behind their backs, I know how I thought that no one would take it serious that at some point, I was certain to never be happy again... And most of all, I remember how I cried when my doctor explained my mother that it's not my mind that's sick (I mean, that I'm not insane, because that's what she thought a depression is), instead it's my soul that's suffering.
For the first time I felt as if someone took it serious and wanted to help me.
So yes, you explained it perfectly ^^ There is no bandaid for a soul and if a wounded soul isn't cared for... it usually get's worse, like an infection.
What I've learned from this very unpleasant time in my life is, that I will always take it serious if someone has psychological problems. I might not be able to cure them, but I can make sure that they don't feel alone in this situation and that it's perfectly fine to seek professional help.
This picture here is not the prettiest, but the message is great.
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I know that picture too ^^
Well, can you blame them to be helpless? Most people try there best and try things that helped themself, they just dont know that it is not that easy :-/
iam sorry for your dark time, but it sounds that you at least got over that dark valley in your life and thats something great :) But jeah, your experience discribes perfectly why it is still a stigma to have a depression (or any other mental sickness) and why most people try to keep this to themself :(
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Yo! Thanks for the giveaway :3
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That he needs to be strong and that it will get better because he deserves better!
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Somehow that sounds like something to say to someone who just broke up with his girlfriend / boyfriend ^^ But beeing strong is difficult, because it could mean that he cant show his weakness (the deperssion), which could lead to make it worse :-/
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I just don't understand the depression thing to be honest man. And I am not saying I have never had depression but depression didn't exist 100 years ago. When you don't have food or water or you are under war, do you have depression? There was a time in my life I didn't find any point living my life and I didn't like anything around me but that was because I didn't want to face my struggles because there were things that were bothering me. So what I am saying is that depression comes from other things and I just can't advice something so general and I believe that something that has worked for me was to put myself in another person's situation and to try think how is their life and how important are my problems. Image how would your life be without hands or fingers man. You wouldn't even be able to type with a keyboard or drink water or go to the toilet without help. I hope you understand my point and I didn't want to make things worse but this really helps me because i realize my problems are not so important as other people and that i should be happy with what I have :)
I hope i helped you or your friend and I understand depression is a nasty thing and it could need some help from an expert but many cases i believe are not very serious and using my way i believe puts you in a position that you can see things differently and feel better :)
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It is no problem that you dont understand it. Trying to describe it is like beeing blind and getting described what colours are.
Of course it helps some people to see that other overcome bigger problems, but a depression isnt that easy. Some things are like a blockade, like a big fear you cant overcome. For other it seems ridiculous and like basic task, but for that person it is impossible.
And depressions are an old problem, there were kings who suffered from that (there are even theroies that Adolf Hitler suffered from Depression and Borderline). I think its more noticeable today, because we do much more research to how the human mind works.
After all, its ok to have an own opinion :) But maybe I can help to bring a little bit more understanding to the subject.
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