The point is not to argue, I am not trying to start flamewar. I want developers to truly listen to feedback and treat ALL users fairly.
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I am not one to know what they do and do not. At least when I post it here, they themselves can't ban me.
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Totally just got a PM from the devs. Sorry, kiddo, got to ban you forever. Legal reasons.
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surely, you mean that you really hope that this is a joke and not true, because then it would mean that you oppose the idea of silencing someone that speaks out against an oppression or wrongdoing :)
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Well that would be at least some kind of response. Even if they would perma ban me from game I do not have, all that would achieve is that I will never buy it for any price.
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No, you want them to listen to You.
If you want the game, but feel that the developers getting money for it is unfair, then wait for it to be finished and then pirate it.
Have a nice day.
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Its in very early development dude, grow up.
Alpha products are not how the game will look when its actually done.
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Paying $90 for alpha access is the joke. Most people will just wait for a 75% off sale. There's many a triple A and indie games that you can play for cheaper and get a bigger thrill.
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Well honestly, pretending it is not my loss does not help. I lost potentially good game that was aiming to be spiritual successor of Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander. They obviously lost sale and customer, but there is some negative impact on both ends.
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just wait till there is a price drop... it wont kill you to not play this game.
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"I lost potentially good game that was aiming to be spiritual successor of Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander."
Your sense of entitlement is completely unfounded. You need to have something in order to lose it. You aren't losing a good game, you're just not obtaining one. And as a customer and not an investor, you're not entitled to get it in the first place.
It's their product in every sense. Get the fuck over it.
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You never know, maybe the $90 from him will change the game from a piece of junk to a masterpiece!
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whatever happened to the days when being the customer (or a potential one) actually meant something... :)
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Nothing happened. It's always been this way.
Capitalist wants profit.
Capitalist creates product desirable to a customer.
Customer buys product.
Both sides get what they want.
Customers are never simply entitled to the things they want. They're entitled to the things they contract for (i.e. buy) and this works out to mean that the customer is entitled to know what they'd be paying for (quality, quantity, risks involved, prerequisites to use, etc.). But nothing more. If the customer wants something made in particular they can either make it themselves, contract with someone who can do it for them, or communicate their preferences and appeal to desire for profit.
It's always been this way. And I don't see any problems with it.
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If they want to yes. But than why do they lie with claiming it is "$90 for ALL users"?
Please, by all means enlighten me. Price rip-offs are common. But now they go even further. They do price rip-offs and lie about it in the process.
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It's not $90 for ALL users, for fuck's sake, it's early access for ALL users.
There, it's even in your post, "The stages of our early access for ALL users".
Early access was restricted for backers only before, now it's available to everyone. I hope that clears it up, thanks.
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Restricted to backers that ALL paid the SAME $90.
I don't care so much about this game or discussing about it, but BlueSharkCZE has good, perfectly valid points about both the pricing, as well as their censorship.
ALL backers paid $90, irrelevant of where they came from. Now the game comes to Steam, and while they said
"Our pricing for this stage of early access was determined by our Kickstarter. The stages of our early access for ALL users, which was determined during our Kickstarter, is: June through August: $90 for early alpha access"
(so the game's price is set to $90 for ALL users, determined by the price on Kickstarter) they flip that around and apply regional pricing anyway, then to add insult to injury, they ban people asking about pricing from their forums?
Let me put it this way - my interest in / support for this dev has dropped to next to nothing now.
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So, backers paid 90$. Right. But Steam's a different service entirely. There's no regional pricing on kickstarter, is there?
My point is that developers didn't lie about pricing, it is indeed $90 in regions that use dollars. Regional pricing is most likely Steam's fault anyway.
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And since Valve is known not to care about our complaints against their screwed up regional pricing, it's up to developers to set the correct prices when signing a distribution contract.
Also, it's funny how, whenever someone complains about Valve screwing the prices, someone says we should blame the publishers, and when we complain about the publishers screwing the prices, someone says we should blame Valve. It's like the jokes about my country's public administration.
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Are you really that thick?
"But Steam's a different service entirely" - which is entirely irrelevant as the DEVELOPER THEMSELVES promised a $90 price citing the price on KICKSTARTER as the reason for the price on Steam.
"There's no regional pricing on kickstarter, is there?" Exactly, which is why it would be unfair to ask people on Steam to pay lower regional prices on a game that's also on region-free Kickstarter rather than keeping pricing uniform across the board. Especially if your entire justification for such a high, premium price for early access to begin with IS THE KICKSTARTER PRICE being that high.
Regional pricing is never Steams' fault. It is always the decision of the developer / publisher. Valve gives them regional pricing guidelines, they then set the prices as they want.
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Yes, they stated that $90 would be the price. And not a single word about regional equivalents (correct me if I'm wrong here). And it is the price. After all, price in dollars usually applies to regions that use dollars as their currency.
Sure, you may disagree that backers from other regions paid the same $90. But once again, Steam works in a different way, and it IS relevant, since they put the game in its store. In my opinion this game's regional pricing is a bit of a grey area just because devs didn't specify it.
Going back to one of your previous statements, "so the game's price is set to $90 for ALL users, determined by the price on Kickstarter". That's where I disagree. "All users" part applies to early access (early access for all users) and not the pricing (e.g. not $90 price for all users).
I just find this whole "developers lied to us" thing blown out of proportion.
And I guess I was wrong about Steam's role in this. Sorry for that one.
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1) I never said I disagree that Kickstarter backers all paid the same $90, regardless of region. I never mentioned any opinion on that.
2) ... It IS irrelevant as THE DEVS' OWN WORDS on the matter said, once again:
"Our pricing for this stage of early access was determined by our Kickstarter. The stages of our early access for ALL users, which was determined during our Kickstarter, is: June through August: $90 for early alpha access"
Your part about "That's where I disagree. 'All users' part applies to early access (early access for all users) and not the pricing (e.g. not $90 price for all users)" says nothing other than that your understanding of the English language might be lacking.
Again, the devs said themselves - concerning the Steam pricing - that the price was determined by the price on Kickstarter. Also, the early access stage FOR ALL USERS, is June - August, and costs $90. The quote from the dev does not say anything other than the time frame of early access, and what it costs, for all users, period. There is no other way to interpret that sentence.
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1) I meant that you might disagree with my argument that was written in a previous paragraph, sorry if that wasn't clear.
2) Price was determined by Kickstarter. But it was determined for a different service that works in a different way. You can't put a $90 price tag in Brazil, because their Steam store is using a whole different currency, thus regional pricing had to be applied. Whether it is accurate or not is another topic. And here I agree - pricing could be handled better.
3) And my whole point was that this sentence in fact cannot be interpretated in only one way. Let's think about it. Why is this game even available on Steam at the moment? To give an opportunity for gamers that weren't backers to get this early access. Thus, early access for all users (backers and non-backers). Makes sense, right? Even in the sentence itself "all users" is placed near the words "early access", while the pricing bit ("$90 for early alpha access") is at the other end of the sentence. Sure, my knowledge of English might be lacking, so, please, prove, that my interpretation of this sentence is wrong and your interpretation is the only one possible.
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Well said, sir. Nice to agree with you on something for once. :)
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Kickstarter was originally designed for crowdfunding. You are paying to help develop a game - it wasn't supposed to be a platform where you purchase the game. Even you said "back a game." That's entirely different from purchasing a game.
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Yes, I backed the development of a game. I paid money. I'll get a game out of it. In the end, I'll have paid for a game. Since Katgarr wrote "You'd have to be a moron to pay that much for a game" I can only assume that means anyone who paid money with the end result being ownership of a game.
And Kickstarter is still designed for crowdfunding, since we're apparently arguing over verbiage now.
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Katgarr's original statement says that "You'd have to be a moron to pay that much [$90] for a game." The problem is that when you back a game on kickstarter, you are not paying only for the game. You aren't disproving Katgarr's statement because in addition to getting the game, you are also paying to support the project itself. Like I said before, the point of kickstarter is not to purchase games, it's supposed to be to support the creation of a game.
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And yet this comment was directed at the $90 price tag of Steam Early Access, which is a mirror of the $90 Kickstarter tier. Interesting how one group are morons and the others not, when they're paying the exact same amount for the exact same goods.
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Incorrect on both fronts. First of all, Early Access is not a mirror of Kickstarter period. Note the lack of tiers, the lack of "backing the game." One is still a storefront for users to purchase a game, the other one is to support a project with perks on the side. Once again, fundamentally you are NOT purchasing a game on kickstarter but you are on Steam. In addition, the game you get from kickstarter is not the same thing as the one you get on Steam - the Steam one is missing extra features. Proof.
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No. Because true kickstarter backer did not pledge whatever he did to buy something. He pledged to help found project he wanted to support. All kickstarter rewards are free. Way of developer to say "thank you for your early support", if you will.
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Or you can live in another region. I've had to pay up to $150 for some of my games.
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It's one thing setting prices how you please. It's another promising the same uniform price for all users, because of an external reason (Kickstarter prices and backers having ALL paid the same before regardless of location), then still applying regional pricing. Even though your backers ALL paid the same $90.
It's perfectly reasonable to ask questions and be pissed off at this. Especially when he got banned from their forums for asking about this.
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when I saw the 82€ pricetag I thought there was some sort of mistake and it meant to be 8€...
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ahahaha XD €8.20 but they forgot to but the "." right? I would have thought that too to be honest :D mostly because most games set themselves at something with a x9.99 on release :D
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My hobbies are reading, playing video games and watching movies.
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""We will change $90 to ALL users" and than doing the usual € and £ rip-off,"
then*
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move to nz or australia. 90 bucks is a bargain on that overpriced price-gouging machine that is steam.
nice to have atleast SOME of you people out there finally agreeing that yes, 90 bucks for a single videogame IS, in fact, a tad ridiculous. welcome to our world.
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Well ofc Valve is part of the problem, but developers accepted it.
Attitude "Too many do it to blame them" does not help.
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"Guidelines". In other words, Steam has a default document of no more than one or two pages, that says "usual pricing per region" or something similar then lists percentile differences that they recommend to devs. They don't set the pricing themselves.
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Well, they just raised the price in Russia from $38 to $78 yesterday, so they might have more price control than you think.
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guess this adds insult to the injury then... I mean $38 is NO WHERE NEAR $90
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Alternative comment. "I have nothing constructive to say."
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I feel like it was a mistake for them to sell the game on steam. Had just just left the alpha to the kickstarter backers, none of these arguments about the price would have made their way to steam and spoiled the well for them. However, the release on steam allows them to pull in more money, which in the end is always a plus. I think it was a slightly greedy move on their part.
I understand not having a low price on steam due to the kickstarter, but having wildly variable prices in different countries does not really help with that idea either.
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"I understand not having a low price on steam due to the kickstarter, but having wildly variable prices in different countries does not really help with that idea either"
You are awesome!
Finally someone understands.
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That's just the standard Steam pricing model. My assumption at this point is that unless the developers/publishers pick prices manually, that model is applied.
I think the rage should focus on the outrageous 90$ price and the Kickstarter bullshit! ;)
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Except that that, too, makes sense. They can't very well offer everything that the $90 Kickstarter tier backers got for less than $90. They should have just not offered pre-release access to anyone but KS backers. Screw everyone else and make them wait for release.
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Bah. I still think the regional pricing issue is a small detail in the big picture. To be honest, I don't care at all about the game itself, so I guess I'll just abandon the thread.
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Actually, they did pick the price in Russia manually. It was $38 before, but when someone complained on the official forums, the devs contacted Steam and raised the price to $78.
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I think the reason this game is in the Steam early access program in the first place is to provide the hundreds of Kickstarter backers who have the alpha key an easy access to the game. If it's going to be on Steam anyway after release, why not put it there right away for alpha/beta players to grab?
I don't really understand why the price is such a huge issue. It would be fair if everybody got it for $90, sure, but it would be unfair for those who backed the Kickstarter project if everybody else got it cheaper. I admit it's stupid to sell at that price, but it's not like they need anyone to buy the game at that price anyway. It's not the final price and nobody's forcing anyone to buy it at this point. It's different from what people are used to with Early Access prices, but this particular case is different because of the Kickstarter. And I'm not sure if it's possible to put a game on Early Access so that nobody can buy it. I think developers are able to upload alpha and beta builds and allow certain people access to them, but I suppose doing it like this is easier, more open (as in that everybody can still see what's going on in the Community Hub), and those who want it can buy it.
Obviously people wouldn't be losing their shit over the price if they didn't want to play the game. So just ignore it until it's actually released and grab it then.
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I think the reason this game is in the Steam early access program in the first place is to provide the hundreds of Kickstarter backers who have the alpha key an easy access to the game. If it's going to be on Steam anyway after release, why not put it there right away for alpha/beta players to grab?
You can have keys register on Steam without actually being sold in the Steam store. For example, you could activate UnEpic keys for the week before it was added to Early Access. Also, Galactic Arms Race, etc.
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SimCity fucked up hard. That wasn't the latest cool thing to hate, that was legitimate complaints about a fundamentally broken product.
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And the announcement to the press that they'd honour refunds, then threaten to ban people's entire Origin accounts (including people with lots spent on them) for saying they would do chargebacks when EA refused to honour the refunds they promised.. That was a kind of big deal to me, also.
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Please bother to read what I post carefully before talking. I am not hater, I honestly wanted to love this game.
Sim City? Heh, Not really.
Allways online = no sale. - That was simple, wouldn't you agree?
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If you wanted to love the game, you have to accept that there are some bad qualities. If all you do is look at the good and ignore the bad, I wouldn't call that love.
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Some would say that's the precise definition of love, actually.
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thing is, he is not hating the game; he is complaining that the devs are lying about their pricing. as a result, although he had been anticipating the game for a long time, the devious and dishonest attitude of the developers has led him to decide not to support these developers. That is what I understood anyway.
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Indeed. I am not judging quality of the the game, only the actions of developers. The game it self can be good, that fact is not tied to any pricing. But because of those actions, these developers simply don't deserve my money.
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So if a dev says the game will be the same price for everyone, and then it's not, you just bend over and say that's cool?
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Exactly. Does anyone honestly think if they had any solid reasons for their actions, they would ban people that dare to question them and ask stuff right away with no response, no attempt to clarify?
Between "Our reason for such pricing is this and this" and "You have been banned from all Planetary Annihilation discussions" I know which response I would prefer.
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Those prices are not their fault. It is Valve's. They are the ones who tell everyone that 1 euro = 1 dollar because of "taxes" etc.
Wow did you really waste that much time with writing this post to whine about the price when 30 seconds search on their site you would know you can preorder it for $40...
If you really played Total Annihilation back in the day then that means you must be 30 years old or more. Not really a game that whole lot of people of this generation put on their priority list.
Yes, they want as much money as possible to make the game better and better. Wtf is up with developers to want to make their game as good as possible...
Up to developers to put prices? Where? I have been ripped off by VALVE for years with $1=1 euro. Where the heck have you seen ALL these games that got priced differently. That happens VERY rarely.
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They suggest it, but they do not say "Price it like this or you are off the steam!"
Or there would not be any fairly priced games on steam, but there is.
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Really? Where? Can't see any...
all elder scrolls $1=1euro
all CoD $1=1 euro
kerbal space program 15=15
antichamber 9=9
tomb raider 50=50
hitman 25=25
witcher 2 7=7
And the list just goes on and on...
Where is this abundence of fairly priced games that you speak of?
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Mostly indie and not big publishers has fair prices. And all Valve games. Don't think EA or other bigass publishers will care about their customers like that...
Please do a bit of research before writing misinformation like that.
Oh, and check Antichamber again. 19.99$ and 18.99€, you know...
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Last time I checked 19€ = around 25$. How exactly is that fair? It is as fair as 82€=90$ percentage wise...
Yeah, indie titles like torchlight 2, oh wait it's 19$=18€, two worlds 2, nope 20$=20€, hmmm, don't starve? nope 15$=14€, europa universalis 3? nope, 10$=10€...
I am having a really hard time finding your fair priced indie titles. I have to say...
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Cherry Tree High Comedy Club
Fairy Bloom Freesia
Confrontation
Introversion Complete Pack
Arma II
There are actually quite a few games that are fair priced
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$7.99, $7.99, $19.99, $19.99, $39.99 (for complete collection), respectively.
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These are fair priced for Australia and Russia. If you want a comparison with Europe:
Race Injection
SimBin Mega Bundle
GT Legends
GTR - FIA GT Racing Game
Carrier Command
Ticket to Ride
etc. Still a good list of fair priced games.
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You have to manually set the regions yourself, only the original region is auto-set by that link.
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Elder Scrolls? As in for example Skyrim Legendary Edition for $59.99 / 39,99€
Arma 3 $32.99 / £19.99 / 24,99€ / 999р. / R$ 67,99
Resident Evil 6 $39.99 / £19.99 / 29.99€
The Witcher EE $9.99 / £6.99 / 7.99€
If you look in the thread other mentioned more.
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I also played TA when it was out, and I'm not 30 (29 atm) :-). Awesome game, I highly recommend it to any RTS fan (it's on GOG for 6$).
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inb4: Regional pricing: Is optional and up for developer to decide, plenty of games on steam are priced fairly.
Steam can suggest pricing, but developers can as easily say no to it and use their own. Just because many choose unfair pricing, is not something that makes it ok to do.
Does not matter how many games are priced fairly, even one would show that it is possible, they just choose not to do it. And that shows how exactly they care.
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Plenty of games? Where exactly? Yeah because an indie dev is so going to say "GTFO Valve. I'll price it as I want it." Good luck getting your games on Steam after that. You're an indie dev after all. It's not like anybody would ever know you existed anyway if you never were on Steam, an AAA game etc.
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"GTFO Valve. I'll price it as I want it."
lol, that's exactly what this dev did. They changed the price in Russia just yesterday.
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Russia is a completely different matter. Almost every game on Steam is A LOT cheaper in Russia. Not a whole lot of games in Europe come close in price to those in America, not even on the eastern side which have slightly cheaper, they still are almost never cheaper than the american prices.
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yeah but they actually increased the price in Russia... according to your logic they would have let it remain at the lower price point? Sure the new price is cheaper than the US price but why increase it?
I think they did it because of the trade factor; risk of loosing income from people asking their Russian friends for it and paying them over Paypal or whatever....
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You're rather unsuccessfully attempting to spread disinformation. The suggested prices are not mandatory, a very large percentage of games use something different. And even the examples you claim are invalid, a game that's $20 and €19 is still proof that the $1=€1 is not universal. The fact that it still isn't fair pricing is beside the point.
As for examples of fair pricing:
Arma II Complete
Carrier Command
GT Legends
GTR
Offspring Fling
Superbrothers
Pat & Mat
To name a few of, sadly, not that many. The fact is, publishers can choose fair prices if they have the willpower to. The vast majority don't, and just go with what Valve suggest.
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You have to be very naive to think that Valve has absolutely no power regarding the pricing of games on their own service. It's like saying that Microsoft has no power regarding the sales of xbox games which I doubt developers would make great sales on Steam but no sales or pathetic ones on XBLA...
The fact it isn't fair pricing is not the point? Hmm, you do realise that the issue of "fair pricing" has been the whole point of this thread, right?
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Price too high for alpha access? well then just don't buy it, no one forces you. People are such crybabies.
@ EDIT, what a childish thing to say.
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I don't think you actually read the OP. He's not complaining about it being $90.
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Exactly. My point would be exactly the opposite. The fact that it is not priced $90 for ALL users as they claim is big part of the problem.
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I thought it was a joke too, until I read this, the developers said that high price help keeping unexpected negative reviews at bay (since there are some people don't understand the "Early Access Game" on Steam or they just buy everything that looks fancy without a second thoughts).
The game will be cheaper (40$) at released date. But Steam is not Kickstarter, it's true, but they did have the product in this case (at alpha stage obviously), just like many other Early Access titles on Steam. I have no idea about the Russian price though
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"I do not argue about the price point. If charging more than double for early access is wise is another thing, and I am not trying to discuss that."
It will be $40 on release, on US steam. How much will they charge us? 39€?
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the developers said that high price help keeping unexpected negative reviews at bay
I don't think they were too successful, considering that they had a sub-one score on Metacritic before the reviews were all removed :P
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I think we need to clear a few points up:
1) It doesn't matter what convoluted excuses the developer gives for why the price is so high, the fact is they want to attract as many of the right kind of audience by offering exclusivity at a price in order to make as much money as possible. It's a marketing tactic, they're trying to make money - it's what businesses do.
2) It's perfectly fine for people to complain about the tactics used by aforementioned businesses if they don't like the way they go about making money. Adequate forms of protest can include moaning about them on forums, not buying their product and sending messages calling them rude words (although the last one is often frowned upon and in some circumstances may get you arrested.)
3) People have a right to disagree with the people who complain about businesses, but should also understand that people have a legitimate reason for complaining, even if they themselves do not agree with that reason. Also, not everyone is satisfied with businesses making excuses for their poor decisions and rather just want them to be honest and say "Sorry - just trying to milk every last penny out of you as businesses are wont to do."
4) Discussing these things on the internet always leads to disagreements, some of which can get quite personal and heated, calling people 'trolls' and 'fanboys' is generally where it starts and is pointless. Some people will agree, some will not. Listen to both sides and use all the information given to make up your own mind and accept some people will disagree with you.
5) There is a good chance of Godwin's Law being proven.
6) Thanks for Skyrim.
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1) And as I said, my problem is not with the high price point. I payed more for some games. The problem is that they claim to set one price while they set another.
2) I chose option 1 and 2.
3) Perfectly put.
4) People can disagree all day long. I wont insult them for having their own opinion.
5) Lulz. :D
6) You are wolcome.
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clap, clap, clap Very well stated and unfortunately the very people that are the perpetrators of said actions are also the ones this would be wasted on - people will still insult and "moan" about the "moaning" in forums, and in general be utter netasses.
As for Godwin's Law - I leave that up to someone else to invoke.
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These points are something only Hitler would make!
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I do have a funky 'tache, but I am not an insecure, elitist and anti-semitic Austrian failed painter turned much maligned and equally mocked allegedly unitesticled late politician/dictator/eugenicist/dickhead.
Also - I REALLY wish that the opening paragraph to ol' Adolf's wiki page.
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And the way they are acting now, $15 from me is too good for them. They refuse to recognize € for its full value. When my money have less value than others, I have no reason to give them any.
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Welcome to the internet where it's all racial. I doubt anyone in the SG forum will buy into the early access version, so complain elsewhere. Might as well just wait for release where it's guaranteed to be around a third of that price. Their huge selling point is that you can launch a planet at another planet and then destroy that planet because physics. You're not missing out on much.
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so complain elsewhere
Unfortunately, they ban you on the official and Steam forums if you complain.
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TL;DR version. They are trying to convince us that price was set by kickstarter tier to be $90, but they charge less in some regions and more in other. They do not care about community, they only want as much money as possible.
Do not support them.
They are openly lying to us and banning you on steam forum if you have any criticism, constructive or not.
Pricing:
£67.99 = $106.77
82.99€ = $110.71
2499 pуб = $78.74
R$ 149.99 = $69.96
Description from store page:
"Our pricing for this stage of early access was determined by our Kickstarter. The stages of our early access for ALL users,
which was determined during our Kickstarter, is:
June through August: $90 for early alpha access."
Yet as you see prices above, that is lie. ALL users do not pay $90, not even close.
They claim "we take feedback seriously", but they obviously do not. Either feedback nor community.
If they had actually sound reasoning behind their pricing, they would not be so unresponsive about it.
But so far only "reason" for their pricing is lie: "It must be $90 for ALL users because kickstarter backers payed $90"
And then they go and chose completely different pricing.
inb4:
VAT: They do not say $90+VAT for early alpha access. And it is digital product, pricing should be set accordingly to what user is paying and not what developer is getting. More so in this case because their defence is that they chose price by what others payed during kickstarter, not by how much they got from them. That clearly sends message that they do not care about kickstarter pledges, they only want as much money as possible.
Regional pricing: Is optional and up for developer to decide, plenty of games on steam are priced fairly.
And they do not say: $90 or whatever we please for early alpha access. As the matter of fact, they go out of their way to let everyone know that price ALL users is suppose to be set to $90.
Setting the price for $90 was reasoned behind the argument that on kickstarter it was also $90, and that they cannot set it
lower.
2499 pуб = $78.74 R$ 149.99 = $69.96 - those are clearly lower than $90. Their argument about kickstarter setting the price falls short.
Their arrogant fanboys called me stupid, said I don't speak English but "idiot", called me mentally ill and still. I am the one that is banned for insulting other members of forum.
They have no respect for community. Either from kickstarter or steam.
I posted 2 threads about pricing. Asking developers directly about it, yet they did not bother to response in way other than
"You have been banned from all Planetary Annihilation discussions"
Pathetic, they clearly banned me for calling their bluff.
Before calling me hater:
Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander are my favourite RTS games of ALL time.
Planetary Annihilation was on top 5 list of my most anticipated games in 2013.
I do not argue about the price point. If charging more than double for early access is wise is another thing, and I am not trying to discuss that.
But I cannot support them when they lie and have no intentions to honour their own words: "early access for ALL users: $90 for early alpha access." and when they say all negative feedback from community is just stupid trolling that will go away in few days.
Feel free to post your honest opinions.
Perhaps if you think it is ok and why, when they said: "We will change $90 to ALL users" and than doing the usual € and £ rip-off, while giving discount to people in Russia and Brazil when they said it would be betraying of the kickstarters htat payed $90.
Also please go ahead and correct my English that is by words of Planetary Annihilation fanboy "idiot talk, made by face hitting the keyboard, due to me having a Parkinson's. xD
EDIT: Just to be clear, I am ignoring all the fanboy comment that will just try to troll.
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