With all the abused FREE keys, why not just not allow the two Shadowgrounds games to be given, forever? Yes, that means legit owners/gifters won't be able to give it away, but honestly, boohoo.

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Take a look at the "Latest Received Gifts" When I looked -all- of them were Shadowgrounds.

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I wonder how many games given away on this site were nearly free or cheap when bought. So they are upset people are giving away a free game instead of a 1.50 game? I wanted Shadowgrounds Survivor and ended up getting so many copies of the first game. I would rather give the extras away to the community than let the go to no use.

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yeah... but why u dont just use the forum?

instead of creating 10000 giveaways =/

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But then the forums would be clogged with giveaway threads ^_^

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Put it all in the one thread. Problem solved.

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Yes, because telling people to put them all in one thread totally works.

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I never said it was practical.

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They already are lol

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Yeah, because the main purpose of this site is to give away games on the forum, right?

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The same has happened with each and every free giveaway, faerie solitary is the latest that comes to mind. And many people miss those giveaways and then want the game. Stop whining, the site isn't about internet phallus size, it's about giving away. Did you giveaway just to participate in more Giveaways? Or to have a sense of superiority? Don't other people deserve the chance to win this game?
Also, considering it's price... it's nothing much. You take use up more time/money earning it, than you would earn working. Consider it the work of them.

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You made me look for my LB dvd!

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i never even got my email when i won shadowgrounds off the slots =\ i think msn email is blocking stuff because i never got my confirmation when i registered on gw2 beta and can't get emails from sony rewards... at least let me enter to win a shadowgrounds

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How about NO, boohoo.

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If you remove Shadowgrounds, you have to remove Nuclear Dawn either and Faerie Solitaire, Lucid and many others that have been given away for free lately. And for Fearie Solitaire they gave out 2 copies per person. So I had 2 extra copies from the PM and one from the public list.

Just stop bitching and be happy for those that got some free legit games. Holy shit people seriously, you guys are so worried about your fucking contributor status, that you forget what this site is about: To give away shit to those that cannot afford it. It is NOT some huge circlejerk where everyone shows his dick off by buying more shit than others.

Yes, I hate rule breakers, yes I hate leechers that trade the games away, but they get all banned in the end. So stop bitching and get some fucking common sense.

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This.

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Exactly. Scorcher24 for president!

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Nuclear Dawn wasn't exactly "free" it's more like 50% off and everyone bought it twice, this is something that you just mash a button until you get a key

You're also forgetting the fact you need 100 dollars worth of games on your account, so pretty much everyone here can "afford" another game

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I wouldn't assume that everyone can afford another game. They might have received everything as gifts from generous friends / birthday (or Christmas) presents from family / wallet gift purchase / wallet card purchase by someone else etc. One of my friends hasn't bought many of his Steam games personally - mostly gifts, presents and the like.

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@khaos
Really? I have no Money whatsoever this summseal.

But I got 3 Games as gifts from my friends lately: Tropico 4, Need for Speed, Dead Space 2

I have some very generous friends that know that I am poor and cannot really afford much games. All my newer AAA Games where gifts. I just bought stuff like JC2 or Metro 2033 myself when it was really cheap.

So despite having 232 installable games, I am a poor fuck. I don't complain, I don't feel entitled, but sometimes there is more behind people that meets the eye.

And 100$ worth of Games can be like 20-30$ on a sale or less. So your comment is not really true.

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This.

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The Truth is strong with this one

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All Your Examples Are Limited Quantities Of Free Keys. SummerSeal Is Exploitable And Can Result In As Many Free Copies As The Exploiter Wants.

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Blame Frozenbyte for giving out so many keys. It is not like that they could have coded the flashapp differently you know...

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They Could Have Coded The Flash App Way Better.
Decreased The Chances Of Winning Keys And Made It Impossible To Exploit.
I Could Go Into Great Detail About Exactly How To But I Won't.
They Took It Down Almost Straight Away And Admitted That They Had Not Tested It Properly.
It Was Still Usable While It Was "Under Maintenence" And It Has Been Exploitable From The Start.

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How you even get a free key?

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summerseal.com

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They can't possibly do that. Because of people like me who...

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BOOM just drop them in the forums.

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This is a better way of giving out the spare key. You clearly don't try to abuse the nice devs of shadowgrounds.

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Lol I know, I just wanted to have fun with it :D

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+1
This is exactly how it should have been handled.

If I could give you rep, I would...maybe that's a feature that should be added to SG so we can reward honest members.

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wait how did people get free keys for shadowgrounds?

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summerseal.com

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People could giveaway Trine 2 coupons also.

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nope u cant giveaway cupons =P

just gift them over the forum

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Doing this will get you banned.

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Any ideas when the summerseal will be on again?

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@frozenbyte on twitter. They will post when it's back.

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Hey. You earn points for that right? How about you just install the enhanced version app and ignore it. Done. Was that hard?

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I don't think it's the spam, it's that people get access to contributor only giveaways.

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I would like too win them before they are removed.

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you can get them free from steam seal... After some tries.

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same shit, just reduce the games in worth.

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people actually paid for railworks 3

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This.

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+1 Even though it was a 90% Discount, at least they spent money. The Summerseal keys were free and exploited. Even Frozenbyte said they made a mistake and should have tested the app better. Those that are creating giveaways with exploited keys are not only taking advantage of the system here at SG, but also Frozenbyte's generosity.

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so im not gonna get banned if i give away shadowgrounds right?

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I think they (admins) wont care if you give away 1 shadowgrounds, but kids on this site will scream your ears off

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What If Someone Gave Away Over 100 Copies ?

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then he should be banned

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because i dont have the game

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Why not just leave it to 1 point? The same like the indiebundles!

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+1

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This isn't any more abused than IGN prime keys when you could get a free subscription or people getting free nuclear dawn keys after winning nuclear dawn for free.

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Incorrect. The System Can Be Exploited And People Could Potentially Get As Many Copies As They Want!

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+1

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because then you would have to restrict every single game that was ever in a bundle or that was found free somewhere

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Dirt 3 Keys Were Banned For Being Exploited And This Is No Different.

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that's completely different...

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How?
Someone Made The Website Expose A Ton Of Dirt3 Keys And So They Were Considered Exploited.
The Same Thing Can Be Done With SummerSeal.

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So you're saying summerseal is just generating fake shadowgrounds keys? I believe the keys are legitimate. Steam ended up removing Dirt 3 from everyone who activated it with those leaked keys, I don't think that'll happen with shadowgrounds..

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The Dirt3 Keys Weren't Fake But Got Leaked.
SummerSeal Is Not Giving Fake Keys But A User Can "Win" An Unlimited Amount Of Keys.
(The System Is Exploitable And Keys Should Be Banned)

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that's true but not everyone knows how to exploit the summerseal site. I even exploited it myself but I couldn't even get ONE shadowgrounds key although I know someone here has made 4 giveaways of shadowgrounds already so yeah you have a point.

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I Won Everything At-least Once And After A Small Amount Of Investigation Could Have Potentially Made The Server Spew Out Hundreds Of Codes.

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OllieD, just keep your mouth shut, please? The only thing you gave away are 2 Free Fairie Solitaire you got from reddit. Fucking hypocrites.

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I Am Not Claiming I'm The Greatest Giver. I'm An Unemployed 26 Year Old Student With A Girlfriend And A 1 Year Old Son.
Money Is Tight For Us.
Yeah I Gave Away Some Extra Keys Atleast I've Given Away Something No Matter How Small!
I Do Have 3 Gifts In My Inventory I Was Considering Giving Away On This Site.
Why Should I When People Like You Give Me Attitude And Its Not Like You Have Given Anything Away Of Great Value Either.
I Could Have Given A Ton Of Crappy Gifts Like You But Instead I Choose To Give Those Away To My Less Fortunate Friends And Family Instead Of The Many Leechers On This Site.

I Do Intend To Host Some Decent Giveaways As Soon As I Have The Funds To Do So!

All I Was Trying To Do Was Point Out That The SummerSeal Keys Have Been Exploited And Nobody Should Be Benefiting From That.
This Site Was Reasonable At Best Before Contributor Giveaways, Since Then It Seems Like The Leechers With Duplicate Accounts These Days Are Just Exploiting Whatever They Can To Gain Access To Higher Value Giveaways While Leaving The Genuine Users Less Choice.

Your Attitude Is Totally Unnecessary And Typical Of Many Users On This Site Who Don't Agree With Others Comments And Think They Are Better Than Them Because They Have "Contributed" More To The Site.

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No, YOUR Attitidude totally unnecessary. The keys are not exploitable in a way that you can have an infinite amount of them in a couple of seconds. You need to spin the wheel. If you are lucky and get multiple keys, well good for you, but that is not exploiting. The app is designed that way and the only ones to blame are Frozenbyte, but for what? To give away free shit? I don't blame them for anything but for not testing their app good enough.

But it is still not exploting. It is stretching the intend, I agree, but your outrage here is totally off the line. From everyone. People are giving away games, thats what this site is for.

You said, at least you gave something away. Well, I think many of the others that give Shadowgrounds away feel the same. Many of them never gave away anything. Then you come here and say they should not be allowed to do so.

But you did the exact same thing yourself. And thats why you are a hypocrite.

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Post removed as i believe it proved my point and contained information which should not be publicly available on this site.

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You ban something that you are supposed to do?
Giving away a game? Really?
The problem is not the game, the problem is the contributor points you can get.
So reduce them to 1 point and done.

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Set the Shadowgrounds contribution to $1, so it won't be worth to exploit the site to get many keys.

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Wrong. People Could Give-away 1000 Keys And Have A Contributor Value Of $1000.
Would That Not Be Worth It ?

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Stay in front of a screen allday long spinning a fucking slot machine to get 1000 keys? While you could spend better your time doing something usefull or having fun (or having sex)?
Totally not worth!

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How Many Times Do I Have To Say This. The Game Is Exploited. You Can Get As Many Keys As You Want In No Time At All.

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In no time at all? Please, explain.
I thought you had to spend some time to get 3 matchings that grants you a key.

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Faerie Solitaire was exploitable too with multiple reddit accounts. Yet, you gave it away.

And you can't get them "in no time at all". Took me 3 hours to get 1 Shadowgrounds Key.

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Faerie Solitaire was possibly exploitable if you already had hundreds of accounts. it atleast checked the account creation date to attempt to prevent exploitability.

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Except that getting keys was totally random based on winning a slot machine with five winning outcomes and like 100 losing outcomes. That people were spinning in hopes of winning things that weren't Shadowgrounds, like Trine 2 CE coupons.

Also, You Are Not A Golem, Please Do Not Type Like One.

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To all those who feel uncertain:

Shadowgrounds giveaway stats


Shadowgrounds Survivor giveaway stats

(Look at the charts please)

If this isn't abusive, then what is?

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People are giving games, and other people are winning games. I see no problem with this(To me this is what Steamgifts is all about.).

Imo, it seems the only ones mad are those who use their contributor status as some sort of e-peen booster & who dislike others getting into their secret elite club in the "wrong way".

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Nice way to simplify it, but no.

It would've been better to just broadcast this information in the forums so that everyone could have gotten the chance to win these free games (the mini-game would reset every 5 minutes.)

About the "witty" e-peen remark: No. These giveaways gave many abusers illegitimate access towards giveaways intended to those who were generous.

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+1
I, along with many others, create contributor-only giveaways to reward those that have actually donated something of real value. I keep mine relatively low because I know not everyone is fully of money, but now contributor-value has essentially been made irrelevant by people who have abused the system.

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Maybe, but if people get the free games regardless(And people aren't selling the keys or making a financial/etc gain from them[No, I don't consider getting contributor status a substantial/major gain.].) then I don't see a problem with it.

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"About the "witty" e-peen remark: No. These giveaways gave many abusers illegitimate access towards giveaways intended to those who were generous."

You could just as easily call it "abuse" when people buy stuff on sale and gift it on SG, then.(Or when people get free games/codes from friends, which they then decide to gift on SG.)

Imo, there shouldn't even be contributor-status. People should give for the sake of gifting and should not expect to get/need to get some imaginary status/fame in return. If a person buys & gifts games solely/mainly to gain contributor status(So as to be able to point to it like some sort of award or achievement.), then it was never about being generous to begin with(But just to stroke their own egos.)

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No. Buying stuff that is one sale still requires you to spend something in order to make the giveaway. You're sacrificing some of your well-earned cash to give back to the community. Of course, morality kicks in when some decide to buy a shitty game to gift simply because it yields a higher contributor value with a minimal cost: I disagree with those as well, but at least they spent something in order to get that contributor value.

Anyway, I agree with one thing you said:"there shouldn't [have been] contributor only giveaways" in the first place, but you know what would've happened? Sadly, there wouldn't have been this many giveaways otherwise.

That's the sad truth. People search for profit even through charity. Look at what some did with the Humble Indie bundles. They bought them for a few cents and then sold them for several bucks. If that isn't sick then, honestly, what is anymore? Have we seriously become this greedy and insensitive?


inb4 "first world problems": Don't worry, I'm well aware there is worse in this world, but this doesn't make the acts I've stated earlier any less sad.

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Still, some such people spend a couple dollars and get 5x the value(or more) added to their contributor status when the game goes back to full price.

Again, I don't think people should be looking at the negatives here but at the positives: More giveaways take place and more people get free games.

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