I'm not going to talk about CV, CV abuse, and more CV in relation to this.
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I find using anything as an excuse to travel to anywhere is worth it! =)
However i'm sensing this is a metaphor and if that is indeed the case, I would say... No clue on that software, Sorry.
btw poll broken for me for some reason no buttons, but No on its real value "worth it" and Maybe? on its glitch price?? unsure.
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About it being "worth it", I realise I worded that poorly. (Changed it at the last minute from "Do you recommend it?"). I meant more in terms of whether it's worth the trouble of activation and learning the software. If there are qualities and features that would justify the time and effort.
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Unfortunately those who actually have activated and used it likely also gifted it and are trying to hide in the shadows so probably won't comment. =(
Hmm. I hadn't thought of that.
Thanks for the links! Unfortunately, like many of the other stuff I found online in regards to this product, the written review is lacking in detail and specifics. Also that kid was just pure cringe, lol. I appreciate your help, though. Cheers!
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I'm using Vegas since 2008 and in my opinion it's on par with Premiere. As far as I'm aware after Vegas 13 you can even export Premiere/After Effects and some other project files from Vegas directly however I haven't tried that yet. Can't think of any feature to make it better than the ones you mentioned and I've only used Premiere, Vegas and After Effects (which I guess shouldn't even be compared here as it's for special effects mainly) but it does have pretty much everything Premiere has and maybe it's just me but I find it a lot easier to move through the timeline in Vegas. The only thing that I'm not sure about is whether the steam version has features missing (looking at this comparison it's missing a couple of things like for example NewBlueFX Looks which is a pretty useful effect).
To be honest if you have access to Premiere I would say keep using it as you wouldn't gain any advantage over it, not sure about DaVinci Resolve as I have no idea what it has to offer. Other than that it's rather easy to learn, I find it to be a lot more simplified compared to other softwares, you could just check a video tutorial for anything to see the it in use and you'll see how straight forward most of the stuff are.
If you have any specific questions about it feel free to ask
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Thanks for your reply, that's good to know! Unfortunately, I don't have access to Premiere right now hence the dilemma.
I do have some questions, though if you don't mind. I'm wondering how well it handles hi-res video and 4K footage. Resolve needs some serious horsepower, and the render files it caches take up enormous space and fill up a SSD in no time. You can generate optimised media to speed things up (bascially lower res proxies), but that takes even more additional space. If I turn off caching, performance can suffer. (There's a "smart" option but it just seems to generates render files no matter what). I wonder how Vegas performs with hi-res video and how it handles background rendering/caching? Have you tried scrubbing 4K footage in real time by any chance?
Are there tools to remove noise from your shots and are they any good?
Also, is it good for animating titles and the like? Besides the usual scale and transform operations, etc. the animations tools for titles in Resolve are pretty basic. Not looking to make anything super fancy but it would be nice to have some more options in the editing suite.
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I completely understand your issue with cache, it is really a pain in the arse. What eventually somehow works for me is to put a cache folder on a normal drive, not SSD. The performance is acceptable in this case and I do not suffer from out-of-disk-space issue (my cache folder in the last project grew to 200 GB in no time). Also, erasing cache of course helps when you are working on some particular piece. I agree, that smart cache is not that useful most of the times.
The thing I really would like to have in Resolve is a better audio tuning/control thing. For now, I did not find a good solution to manage my audio tracks, which are initially often bad (due to a built-in action camera mic).
As for titles, I find the basic functionality Resolve offers to be enough for creating modern stylish titles, not sure what else you need :)
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Yeah, I also had to use the hard disk method as a secondary and delete as I go, but it's an annoyance, and it would sometimes stutter on the hard drive nonetheless :(
Good point on the audio, there's a lot more you can do in other programs.
As for the title stuff, I guess what I'm looking for would be some kind of support for creating animation/motion graphics in the tool without having to resort to a full blown external solution like After Effects, which I'll admit is way over my head. But maybe the tools are there already for what I want to achieve and I'm just not looking or trying hard enough :)
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Not sure about catching with 4k since the highest I've worked with is 720p in Vegas, I am only using it as a side hobby editing AMVs and since anime most of the time is in 720/1080p I haven't really gone higher.
As for noise, well that is one thing I had forgotten about and that would be a downside to Vegas unless they added it in 14 but unless using external plugins which are most likely not free there is no noise reduction effect (just did a quick check an I couldn't find one in 13).
Title animating is rather basic not sure how much is possible in Resolve but here you've got some media generators (solids, gradients, rectangles and a few others), a bunch of animation presets for texts and separate transform on the media itself and on the layer, plus layer parenting which gets useful when stuff have to move at the same time.
To be honest going through my last Vegas project I seem to be mainly using it for the easy to handle timeline and layer transforms, everything else I do is mainly plugins from NewblueFX or BorisFX.
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I see, thank you for summing that up. The animation tools you describe do sound promising, I may have to check that out.
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Long time ago, when i must decide which video tools to torrent use, i do quick comparison in several review web.
Then after I got 2 best candidate, i read the review carefully. Hopefully it help.
http://www.toptenreviews.com/software/multimedia/best-professional-video-editing-software/
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Oh and 1 thing i know from Vegas vs Premier.
My computer work harder when i'm using premier..
I mean.. heavy load..
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I see. I'm used to heavy load when using Resolve, I wonder if this will be better. Thanks for the links!
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I find DaVinci Resolve better, especially for color management. And it is free.
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I see. I'm happy with working in Resolve for the most part (well, apart from some niggles I mentioned in my reply to enjobg above), not going to ditch it any time soon. Color correction is its bread and butter after all, and that tracker is unparalleled. But I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to switch to basic editing in Vegas and exporting for color grading in Resolve.
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I personally feel more comfortable when working in one editor instead of importing stuff between multiple ones. Maybe, it is just because I am still quite a noob in video editing and I am afraing of fucking up something when importing videos (resolution, quality, etc.). I am using Resolve for editing videos from my action cam and it is working great so far. Sometimes (especially when a project becomes bigger), it can be can quite slow for me. I guess, for (semi-)profesional video editing it can be an issue, but for my amatuer experiments Resolve is working absolutely great.
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Ideally, the export wouldn't involve actually encoding the video and importing that version (for the reasons you mentioned), but rather the entire sequence with reference to the original media that you could then work on in the Resolve timeline. It's an added step in the workflow and it may not carry over perfectly, but I guess it might be worth it depending on the situation.
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i think for the very small price you (hopefully) paid, it's definitely worth it. just remember, if you don't live in those locations, you will have to wait 3 months until the region lock is gone (and there is of course the risk valve changes this in the meantime, although it has worked for quite some time now).
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Thanks for chiming in. About the region lock, will the 3 month timer start counting down only once I have activated it, or does it also count for unactivated inventory items?
I take it you have activated it. Is it a one time thing or do you have to... "go on a business trip" every time you start it up?
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it will start to count down after activation. once the lock is gone, you should be able to use it without doing a business trip. i never tried it myself, but so many others did it. especially here in germany for censored versions with region lock. seems to work absolutely fine every time. again: valve might change this at any time. so there's it's never really guaranteed to work. but i think in this case the risk is so little (since it was super cheap), and the reward is so big. worth it. :)
i wish there was a similar price glitch for Sonar Platinum Lifetime... xD
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actually that region lock well never apply...
there are 2 different types of region locks, activation and gameplay. this one is activation.
im not in indonesia right now and i can run Vegas.
gameplay ( like in germany or japan ) is the one that u need to wait 3 months to be able to run the program
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no, that's not correct. for quite a while now (~2 years), valve has a general region lock for certain cheap countries. all products from those countries have a region lock, even without having the typical tags like *onlyallowrunincountries". this is a activation and play lock! you cannot use them if you are not in the correct region. you are indonesian, right? so your account region is indonesia, and that is the reason why it works for you in other countries aswell. but that doesn't mean, this locked version will work for others in their regions.
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nope, im from saudi arabia, my current store is still on saudi arabia. i can still run Vegas without any problem.
and yes its the region locked version
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then this must have to do with saudi-arabia, but it's not a general thing. i definitely cannot run it.
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My flight got cancelled.
I tried activating this, but even though I'm connected via VPN to an elligible country, Steam keeps saying my country is restricted and refuses to add to my library. Do you have to actually change your country/currency setting for your Steam account in the client in addition to connecting via VPN for this to work? Does it matter if you still have funds in your local currency in your Steam wallet before connecting with VPN? Not sure how to proceed here, would appreciate any advice!
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i had the same problem, and someone then told me to log out in both browser and mobile phone. then it worked (with vietnamese VPN).
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That did the trick. Thanks for the tip! It's activated; I can't get it to run without VPN, however, so looks like I'm in the same boat as you.
EDIT: Can't even install it even when logged in via VPN. Hmm...
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probably because of your steam account region. i would say let's just wait 3 months and see, if it works then. :)
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well, just changed my store to US, im still able to launch vegas pro without any problems, is i said before. i can normally launch it
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Hmm... conflicting reports, I see. I guess it may be a case by case thing and I won't know for sure until I've actually attempted to do it myself.
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I've used a yarr! copy of Sony Vegas for a school project years ago and couldn't say that I had any bad experiences with it. I guess that's a good thing.
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Once I used to sail the high seas but now I may have to resort to air travel for this to work ;)
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can't offer any advice, but have a safe trip if you decide to go through with it!
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its the best software ive ever used so far, i tried it on few videos i had and its great.
not only u can change the export to almost any video file, not only u can change the graphics, not only u can trim the exact timing ( less then seconds ) and actually see the video while doing it, not only there are lot of shaders and u can put videos and sounds on top of each other, not only u can u can put more then 1 video to play it the same time. but u can add almost every single thing u want in the video easily by checking the tutorials in the program ( has tutorials for everything which other softwares dont even bother adding ).
u can also add any type of video and sound files without having to change them, unlike some programs which require mp3/mp4 or few other formats in order to edit videos... "cough" I Movie "cough"
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Thanks for your summary. The built-in tutorials for those steps do sound enticing.
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they are. unlike normal programs where they tell u u can do that and that without any idea how to actually do them.
vegas shows u exactly what u need to do in order to do what u wanted. pretty sure most of its size is because of all the tutorials
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Beats using Windows Movie Maker. Now I can edit my sleep cam videos better.
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Like many people here, I managed to obtain a copy of VEGAS Pro Edit 14 during the war, but I haven't actually activated yet. (Part of the reason is because I haven't bought my flight ticket to Indonesia yet. If you catch my drift. Hur.)
I've been asking myself if I should actually go through the trouble of activation (air travel is tiring!) and getting to terms with the software. I tried searching for reviews and expert opinions, but Steam reviews for this are hopeless and I couldn't find anything else of value out there. So I'm wondering if there are people here that have used the software and if they could share their thoughts on it.
Specifically, because this seems to be a product aimed at professionals and serious amateurs, I'm wondering if it has any redeeming qualities that are not found in the industry heavyweights Adobe Premiere or Apple Final Cut Pro X (both of which I am familiar with but sadly do not have access to at the current time), or if there is a killer feature in there that makes it worthwhile. (Bonus points if anyone can compare it to DaVinci Resolve which is currently my main editing suite. Few products can even hope to compete with Resolve when it comes to Color Grading, but what about editing tools and other features?)
It doesn't matter whether you are experienced in other editing programs, though; if you are familiar with this software, I'd appreciate your input.
I'm not going to talk about CV, "CV abuse", and more CV in relation to this. There's been enough of that already elsewhere, I think.
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