I was building this set for 2 week, changing most stuff with you back in 2 threads.
Yea... mobile phone access...
My brand-new job gave me crappy 20GB-disc laptop, which cant load almost any site, but can run steam for a couple of minutes (sometimes).

But! Straight to the point!

I live in Poland and I will be buying all in Poland.
I want to build my PC all by myself.
I want to overclock whatever I can. With safety.
I 've never done any of above...

And I dont know if my build is "valid".


My priorities:

  1. HTC Vive / Oculus Rift - EDIT - I finally force myself to think: "It would need a lot of optimization when it will be released..." . So duck! I can have min. req. graphic card!! And buy another one in next year! ( SLI / replace / trade + money)
  2. Gaming - I will have 2k monitor in some time in future - EDIT - on New Year
  3. Minecraft with more than 100 mods and high quality texture pack - EDIT 8 GB for now and another 8 GB when the RAM prices would drop down. Fair.
  4. Editing >1 GB Videos, cutting some gaps in 1-5-10 GB videos (mostly 4-5) - EDIT - duck it :) On my MSI GTX780 laptop it was pain in the ass. But with the new generation of Intel and brand new 8 GB of RAM - I will feel the GLORY!!

Please help me.
Tell anything i should know.
Is anything wrong with that set?
Can it be better in same / smaller price? :P
Anything else?
HTC Vive FINAL release date, price an req? ;P (still small amount for specials on 8th of Dec?)

Type Basic Item Extended Item Name Reason
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K Skylake socket 1151, 64bit, 3.9GHz, 95W, cache 6MB, BOX (BX80662I56600K) BOUGHT
CPU Cooler CPU SilentiumPC Grandis XE1236 (SPC099) BOUGHT
Motherboard Asus Z170 PRO GAMING Z170, QuadDDR4-2133, SATA3, HDMI, DVI, DP, USB 3.1, ATX BOUGHT
Memory HyperX DDR4 Fury Black, 8GB 2400MHz, CL15 (HX424C15FB/8) BOUGHT
SSD Storage SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SATA3 (MZ-75E250B/EU) BOUGHT
HDD Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue , 3.5'', 1TB, SATA/600, 7200RPM, 64MB cache (WD10EZEX) Waiting for delivery...
Video Card MSI Radeon R9 390, 8GB GDDR5 (512 Bit), HDMI, 2xDVI, DP (R9 390 GAMING 8G) Waiting for delivery...
Power Supply Corsair CS Series 650W Modular 80+ GOLD - CP-9020077-EU BOUGHT
Case Fractal Design Define R5 2xUSB 3.0 Czarna (FD-CA-DEF-R5-BK) BOUGHT
Monitor LG 29UM57-P 29 cal, 2k res, 2x HDMI, without speakers, AH-IPS, 2 months death pixel guarranty I GOT IT ALREADY >.<
Monitor alt. LG 29UM67-P 29 cal, 2k res, 2x HDMI, 1x DisplayPort, speakers, IPS, 2 months death pixel guarranty seems worse, because of not AH-IPS :(

Already have:

  • Optical Drive
  • Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit)

Edit:

It's really sad that so many people hate me :(
Nontheless, I'm glad there were and there are still so many like-a-me bros :))
Don't worry. I won't forget.
I will never forget..

Edit 2:

I already ordered everything :)
Sadly... Package with HDD, graphic card and additional sound card - is still in transit.... For a week....
Damn them..

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I see, that you have taken some of my advice.. :) good setup.. Just maybe remember about the Radeon R9 390X video card option.. :)

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Radeons dont have physX and installed version is not for me.
Ilike nvidia and Ive heard few bad opions about Radeons few years ago.
I like to stay on my old good (expensive :p) nvidia

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"Bad opinions few years ago"
Well you could've gotten some good opinions of Volkswagen a few years ago, not that it matters now.. So it shouldn't matter for AMD cards now, right? I'm trying to say you can have some opinions on everything, most people believe what they're marketed to.
As I'm already commenting on this:

  • Overclocking yes or no? If no go for the i5-6500 and H170 Chipsets. Cheaper, same performance. If yes, stick to K and Z170.

  • Power Supply is overpowered. Your configuration will need 300 Watts under the utmost maximum. Under gaming rather 200 - 250W). Also the PSU is of rather midranged quality. You could go for higher quality, same price, as for instance with the Seasonic G-Series 520W or Coolermaster V Series 500W.

Rest is absolutely fine and no, you don't need an i7 for gaming (why do I always see some people saying that?). But as long you can read benchmarks properly, you've probably figured that out yourself.

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Yes, OC for me please :)
I've already learned about chips :)

Power Supply wont drain more energy, but it can be helpfull when I'd OC and make some fiture replacement / additions., right?

PSU have good enought specs and reviews.
It is also quite quiet. :)

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The CS-series from Corsair is far from quiet, compared to the aforementioned V-Series or, manufacturer of the quietest PSUs, BeQuiet (at least, the straight and Dark Power series are) - speaking of which: BeQuiet Straight Power E10 500W would also be a nice PSU.
And no, with overclocking, you won't have that much more power draw (350W tops - typically less) and future components becoming more energy efficient, you won't need more power. Also look at the past gens with single GPU cards. You'll see that a) the top-end models draw less and less power the younger they are and b) that a 500W supply was always enough to power a single-card PC.

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I will look for it again but in next 8 hours :((

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PhysX isn't always "better stuff" and enabling those effect can cuf of FPS on TitanX by 20. Most of the time GPU tests are made with whole PhysX / GameWorks turned off to not mess with results. You can see comparison between GW turned on and off here - ultra settings with and without HairWorks in Witcher 3 (separate tabs)

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Thats sad...
But I always loved that extra effects.
I had it always turned on.
I didnt knew that was the reason of few fps drops...
But anyway- I love it and I can (now :>) always turn it off :))

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PhysX has only two jobs in games in actuality: to reduce framerate and to introduce more clipping bugs than normal.

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It's not bug, it's feature! :D

(But IMO really good summary. "Better" smoke, cloth movement and hair flips aren't worth loose in performance (esp on Radeon cards) and those terribly crappy optimalisations like in B:AK, AC series and so son).

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I am investigating all advices :)

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Well, I am a bit late and probably somebody wrote it already, but video/picture editing makes use of Nvidia's CUDA, so PhysX isn't the only thing that argues for Nvidia. ;)

Thanks for your event that leads here.

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Everything looks great but I would change the CPU for a i74770K, and maybe the cooler for a cooler master v8, and maybe add 1-2 more TB in the HDD. :)

Edit: Do you really need 2k monitor? with that money you can buy 2x Full HD monitors, I don't think 2k is a must since just a few games has 2K res, so I would wait a little bit oil 2k monitors price drops and spend that extra money on something else, like a better cpu.

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No i7 and no 4th or 5th generations for me. I want to update my PC with some ram, later graphic card.
Newest generations would have more improvements and advantages as time will go on.

About HDD: 1TB is sick enough for me. :D

About monitor: I will have it, not buy it :)

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Oh, great then! :D BTW I totally recommend u the hyperX RAM. ;) you can't go wrong with that.

8 years ago
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Nothing wrong with this build :D Now i'm jealous. :(

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...in the last 2 years we went from intel cpus gen3 to gen6 as well... these 2 years aged fast!

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Its 2015 people... stop building your own PCs and buy a Magalhães instead. Smh...

CPU - Intel® Celeron M 900MHz Processor
Chipset - Intel® 915GMS
Screen - TFT 8.9" WSVGA (1024x600)
RAM - 1GB DDR2 667
HDD - 30GB ( 10 GB Windows / 10 GB Linux )
GPU - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 915
OS - Windows XP Professional / Linux

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Something like that I am using in the work Q_Q

8 years ago
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You should be happy to have such a beastly PC at work.
Im jealous.

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I just love to wait something around 7 minutes to run my program and another 5 for excel <3

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Missing SSDs in these times should be forbidden! ;__;

At least I am getting one in my company's laptop after working without one for 2 years. If you need to restart often, HDDs are a pain in the a** and I am quite sure they are the reason for your 7min/5min startup times.

What I am trying to say is that the laptop is bad, yes, but most of the slow loading times will be caused by the slow HDD. ;)

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yes, a great idea from the not at all corrupt twice Prime Minister "Engineer" Socrates... oh well
that was some 5? years ago

8 years ago
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Praise Socrates for this magnific masterpiece

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nah, his greatest masterpiece was doubling national debt and doubling the rate at which it was increasing while filling up his swiss account and still being re-elected as to repeat the whole cycle

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Walk out from your cave sometimes :D

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Yeah, but good old DDR3 is plenty for almost everything at the moment.

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There wont be any, its just RAM :)

But more CPU to come, more DDR4 here would be. And less DDR3

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I just found out my CPU is 3.5 years old.

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Looks good to me. I don't think you'll get the performance you want for a 4K/VR setup (especially with the 970 instead of 980/Ti), but the build looks solid. Haha

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I came to think that I will be amazed on any graphic standars inside virtual reality for now.
If later it would matter - I will sell my bed or something for extra money for newest graphic card :P

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with that build you can almost into space

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Almost? So I won't reach space?
I will fall down!?

Oh noes :(

8 years ago
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in 3 years time I'll make my build, call me back by then and if I get into space, I'll give you a ride :)

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I will remember... :)

8 years ago
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Seems fine, the only thing i would change is memmory 8GB ----> 16GB.

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Later I will buy another 8 GB :))

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As a piece of quick advice, don't buy 16 gb now, no games use that much RAM, the only reason you would ever need that in 2015 is if you are doing heavy video editing, if not then stick with 8 GB. Buying another 8 GB stick in the future will be much cheaper.

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Oculus might want more RAM.
Anyway - I can buy 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 / 12 / even 16 additionall RAM, about month or two after final consumer releasion of few VR Headsets

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Fair enough point, but most games (even w/ the Oculus) don't need 16 GB. Heavy gaming with the Oculus and running Windows would at most take up to 6 GB. So yea, just buy more if needed after you try the headset.

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i think 650w are probably ok but i would feel more comfortable in your shoes with a litle more i also have gtx 970 pretty happy about it (its not good at 4k gaming but from your specs looks like you are aiming for 1080 so you will be happy i see you say 2k you might want to look better into that) the differences we have is mine is corei7 needs some more vat and i have 16gig ram anyways when i counted my wat needed it was about 550 in full usage means a game that goes to the limit and i decided to go for a 850 for 2 reasons 1 is doesnt matter at electrical bill since it uses as much as needed the 2nd and i think we seem the same in future upgrade you will probably need more wats if you put another gtx 970, your pc is ok you should play at high end most of the games but can i ask you a question why you choose 8 giga ram? the industry is about to jump to recommend at 12 and 8 at minimum with that in mind why not 16 to be safe and give more speed to your pc

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Smaller loan.
I will buy another 8 later :)

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You can't go up with wattage without penalty. Efficiency starts dropping fast below 20% load, and most of the time PC works in (nearly) idle mode. Secondly, most of the time it's better deal to buy new gpu then sli the old one. Just 2 little cents )

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Prusy, what do ypu think about mycase now? :»

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Quick look says decent, with potential to be quiet. You may have to play a bit with fans placement/speeds to get best (noise and cooling) effects.

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Whhaaaaaaaaat? Only decent? :(

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It's 1am, I'm not going to research it - just gave it quick look. And tbh I have yet to see a good case (but I'm niche market, so it's not really surprising). My current build was made as quiet&power build and it was wow at first. Now I consider it too noisy, but 'standard' builds compared to it sound like jet take-off. Beware, you may end the same. Who tried once, never goes back :)

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So in fact my case is amazing, but you are addicted to silence and have a much better one, yes?

If yes, I will buy what I have choose. Small steps for the beggining, it wont stress me as much as loudy PC sets I had experienced in past. :)

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I don't have :( but for the first build that one will be good.
As to much better one, I don't think it exist in retail market. My first design tries ended up in really bulky case - close to midi tower height cube - ATX form factor is not air cooling friendly

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if you are editing videos (unsure by your edit if you still are) an I7 may be a better CPU as they do really well with production of animations and stuff like that. that being said, The I5 you have should do the trick also

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Editing small videos should be fine on i5 :)
On bigger ones I just cut sone moments :)

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Hum IMHO, if you have room, an i7 and a 3TB HD is interesting if you pretend to do edition/storage of videos. An Seasonic with minimun 750W is a good choice to, but if you think in SLI in future an 850W is interesting. Talking about this i have to mention than GTX 970 have Engineer Problems, and reach only 3.5GB of his RAM, looooooool.

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I am storing everything in the internet unlimited discs for a years.
And by that - I mean extra copies of it c:
Everything is stored in my 500 GB disc and I still have another 500GB avaible :))

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I have 3 3Tb and counting...

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GTX 970 Enjoy your 3.5 GB good goy.

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What else to do? :((

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You could head towards the amd route. Their cards are showing promising results on dx12.

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Yeah, I would recommend the r9 390. It's more powerful, little bit cheaper, and that 8gb of vram would serve you plenty in the future. The 390 uses much more power than the gtx 970 but your 650 watt power supply should work well with it

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Umm... :(

So many of you are trlling me to switch....

Please tell me how much I would lost due to manuall install of physX?

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Oh, I thought you haven't bought the parts yet, did you?. Anyways, if you already have the 970, just keep it. It's still a beast of a card.

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I havent bought. Im still looking ang asking :)

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I never had NVidia card and PhysX installed "extra" with Radeons is calculated by CPU, not GPU. That is why it can work crappy or not work at all.

I was playing fine in Metro: LL until sequence when you have to drive an elevator and there is monster attacking you from above. I had some stutter before sometimes but I wasn't able to play game at all in this moment, it had 5 - 10 FPS and I died over and over again. I found out that PhysX is enabled by default in this game and I turned it off. I hadn't see any difference in graphic really but game stopped to stutter permanently.

And I have R9 280X. So yeah, due to PhysX / GameWorks closed code and licences those effect can kill performance on Radeon cards (sometimes on NVidia as well). But on the other hand - how many features PhysX has in a single game? Only few. It's not that all GameWorks effects are incorporated into every single game. Even in Witcher 3 this amazing HairWorks was enabled only for hairs of Geralt, horses and few monsters. In B: AO it adds smoke, pieces of fabric which you can destroy with batarang (without you throw them and they doesn't make holes) and lightrays etc.

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I think I will check that radeon after work.
Thank you guys :)

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Pay attention for power needed (heat) - important factor for restricted cases

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What do you mean by pay attention? How? Where?

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On manufacturers card specs pages, sites with tests also compare power draw of different cards. AMD cards take more power for the same performance as NV, but have better performance/price ratio. And bigger power draw == more heat == more air needed for cooling == more/faster spinning fans == more noise

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I know that more power = more hear = more noise.
I didnt understand your previous post.
Did you mean: "your PC will explode burn if you wont watch temperature inside every 5 minutes durning playing Witcher 3 on Full HD"!?

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No, just when looking for the right gpu for your build. Worst what could happen while playing is card/cpu overheat protection kicking in

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Looks fine. Enough watts in PSU, enough wide case for cpu cooler.

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z tego co ja patrzylem pare razy to tam mozna spokojnie popytac i odpowiadaja wiec troche dziwnie napisales ze 0 pomocy

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Na forum moje watki szybko znikaly na kolejnych stronach... Jeden czy dwa podbicia czasem daly jakas odpowiedz... Jakąś...

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Let me just point out that Java doesn't care what you have in your computer and combined with the fact you want to run tons of mods, I wish you the best of luck!

I saw that you plan on buying a second 8gb of RAM at a later date and I highly suggest it! The memory is actually going to be the weak point in your computer until you do so.

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So what can I do with that java thing? I though RAM would fix the problem...

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Minecraft was programmed using Java. You should get 300+ FPS so no issues there, but you'll likely still experience random hiccups. They'll only become more frequent with more mods, especially 100 of them.

Mind you, I haven't played Minecraft for quite some time so things could be drastically different now. Last I heard, they made some change which kept a lot of the popular mods using an older version of Minecraft which wouldn't help things either.

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I havent been playing for a year :(

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You seem to know what you're doing. I'd say pass it by the fine folks over at /r/buildapc if you want some good help. Also, use PCPartPicker if you do end up posting over there, they're rather insistent on it. (It is rather good, though.) No specific Polish website, so linked to German.

I say this as a relatively happy owner of a 970: AMD R9 390 might be a better pick than an Nvidia GeForce 970, as others have stated. If you're looking at doing VR, the extra VRAM will probably be very helpful.

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I made there 2 topic and got 3 responces in total. Without my bumps of course.

About AMD: can you please link me somd comparation test, where manually installed physX on AMD is not killing the machine morethan nVidia one?

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PhysX is a gimmick. Sure, its effects might look neat in videos, but they tend to be implemented in ways that make them more distracting than helpful in immersing the player into the game. Plus, PhysX effects tend to reduce FPS by quite a bit. It's really not worth it.

That said: I can't link you to a test where PhysX effects enabled doesn't kill framerates on AMD GPUs. Generally speaking, PhysX effects can't be enabled at all for AMD GPUs. Not to say that PhysX doesn't work at all without an Nvidia GPU, just some of the more computationally expensive (think fluids, smoke, cloth, hair, particles, etc.) parts are disabled/aren't as detailed. Most (all?) of the important physics stuff is done on the CPU, anyway.

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Why doesn't anybody think of CUDA which offers many advantages in vid/pic editing?
It is only available in Nvidia cards which I think to be an argument against AMD since I tried Adobe products for photo/video/sound editing (arranged from least to most noticeable) with and without CUDA in the past.
The difference is astonishing!

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I'm not sure what the current situation is, but nVidia was sabotaging AMD cards attempting to do PhysX for a while.

https://www.reddit.com/r/amd/wiki/sabotage

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They sabotage them now on engine level with GameWorks. It is very apparent when you see benchmarks on the DICE engien, the only more known game engine that does not have any NVidia software in it, and where AMD cards with half the price are matching or beating NVidia flagship chips.

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I'd gladly help but I'm an AMD guy. Buy a R9 390, with the new drivers AMD is gaining edge over Nvidia right now. Also I'll be at Krakow next year, I like your country. Kurwa.

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Nice :D There are people here which 50% of sentence consist of word "kurwa" xD Not that it is very polite.

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Fanboys everywhere =)

8 years ago
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Jumping in to say I also support AMD at this time. Haha

Fury/Fury X is a great card and doesn't carry any shady reputation.

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potato

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Bump // tommorrow I'll add remaining money to my bank account.
Black Friday / Cyber Monday - hope there will be at least - 5% discounts in Poland :p

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Black Friday in Poland = NOPE
I will make my order on Monday :)

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But but... they had XboX One controller for 120zł in x-kom, they were gone in less than 3 hours I beliefe? :D:

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Id rather have Steam Controllers :) And later HTC Vive / Oculus Controllers. :)

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They work poorly with games outside of Steam :D Plus PS / XboX pad is better choice when I'm planning to buy PS4 / XboX One at somepoint, I'd have one extra pad to play with someone

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I can use it on my very very futute PS?!?! ARE YOU KIDDUNG ME!???!

WHAT HAVE I DONE._.

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You wanted to play with steam controller on Playstation or Xbox? :D Sadly it doesn't work that way. You can't download steam controller drivers into consoles to make it work xD

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I wanted to buy only PS in the future. With PS controller

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Oh, ok :D

Dualshock 4 works on Windows, but Sony has got some work to do to improve compatibility.

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You think 8gb ram its ok?
"2 months death pixel guarranty" - it for all monitors or only for LG? 1 pixel?

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New monitor after 2 months for any death pixel. If they send me another- they would give me new guarranty

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I think so. OP can save a good amount of money by just buying another stick later on.

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to me looks like a pc i can only dream about xD nice setup indeed

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I saw this today. So it will be wise to wait for a bit to see if it is really a problem and not just some fake info. And if it is true look for CPU cooler which won't damage CPU in this way.

It'd be sad to damage your CPU because of this.

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I have everything but graphic card and HDD from one store...
Waiting 4 days and I will wait another .... 7..... Stupid store selling card they don't have...

I hope it is fake.
I love my cooler and CPU.
They must like each another..

I can't wait to run my new PC.... damn store....

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I also had to wait few times for delivery because shop site wasn't up to date and even if it stated that they have something in warehouse they had in fact wait for shipment. This suck.

So if you already have CPU and cooler be gentle with them D: Noone likes forced unions xD

And if you have everything except GPU and HDD you could assemble it to see if it is working. Adding GPU after having everything in case is super easy (you just put it in PCI slot and connect power cables) and to add HDD to SSD you will just have to leave one SATA and power cable free. And you will have to plug in monitor to motherboard. You will be even able to play less demanding games in that way :D

I nie wiem, jak to napisać po ang, więc napiszę po PL => nie wiem jak dużo czytałeś o składaniu komputerów, ale przy tej obudowie wyciągnij sobie górną część koszyków na dyski - polepszy Ci to przepływ powietrza w obudowie.

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Środkowe i ewentualnie dolne jeśli już. Prawie całe ciepło z gpu zostaje w obudowie - to 280W dla tej karty, ponad 2x tyle co cpu

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Myślę o tym module, który jest wysunięty na tym zdjęciu. Dysku HDD i tak nie przykręci w obudowie jakoś z boku, jak to w niektórych obudowach można zrobić z SSD. Więc jeden koszyk na dyski musi się zostać.

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Czyli środkowy. To zresztą i tak fatalne miejsce na dyski przy otwartym chłodzeniu gpu. 970ka grzeje mi je jak kaloryfer

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Closed 8 years ago by nobodyzero.