Is that scummy?
Good. Maybe they'll have less time to spin around the latest string of conspiracy theories Putin is pulling out of his ass.
Seriously though it started last week already. I spent a good hour flagging all the obvious fake reviews on This War of Mine before realizing it doesn't matter much. They are obvious and ridiculous and nobody who doesn't already agrees with them is going to take them seriously.
You're right to make a list though. Those devs deserve better although I'm sure they were expecting it.
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Logically the game affected are probably all the games listed on
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/eSVCN/games-that-you-can-buy-and-donate-for-ukraine
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Ok my bad then, i thought it was so obvious everybody already noticed it anyway.
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Ppl really need to know what ind of ppl they are.
I saw a video, yeasterday?, from Germany. russians were protesting against accepting Ukrainian refugees into Germany. Not against the war. What kind of person you have to be do sth like that ?
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I noticed this video too. It's shameful (euphemism) from these Russians but all Russians are not like them. I don't like that some discrimination against random Russians appears in my country. For example a Russian restaurant was vandalized in my country, yet the restaurant owners had said they wanted to participate in giving food to Ukrainian refugees. I understand the russian propagandists are irritating, but let's not act like them against innocent Russians.
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i´m from germany and i cant find anything related to that... or at least i get pretty much informations about demonstrations from 2016, where a russian girl probably got raped from an refugee. could the video you saw, be from this time?
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+1, I'm from Germany and haven't heard of such demonstrations. There are plenty of demonstrations against Putin's invasion, and a very welcoming attitude towards Ukrainians who come to seek shelter here. Regarding specificially Russians in Germany, I only heard of a increase in hate crimes against them. (Which is shitty, too. Russians are not Putin.)
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Not all of them are affected though (popular ones mostly) and this kind of behaviour is just exploded last days/weeks
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We can just hope that it'll calm down and Steam will clean that unfortunately. Fortunately it didn't affect the fundraisings, some of these devs already came back with good news.
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They are ruSSians, what did you expect of them ?
They already started one war, WWII with Hitler. Invaded many of their neighbors. Occupied eastern and central europe.
Now, prob 2014 is better date, starting another great page in their history when invaded and started war with peaceful Ukraine.
I wonder how Balts must feel now...
Germans were bad ? At least they tried eliminate Hitler, with over dozen of assassination attempts.
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Counter-nazism is also a nazism even when some of russians love Putin - and not only russians. Remember all those "Putin's friends" across the world like Trump, AFD in Germany etc.
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Russia started a war with Hitler? Are you serious? how? You need to study history. The Second World War began in 1939, and German troops attacked Russia on June 22, 1941. Putin is currently the aggressor, but do not blame the Russians for all the wars in the world.
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Maybe you read the history of your country in the 30s. How did they conclude agreements with Nazi Germany? How did Poland take over part of Czechoslovakia? How did he refuse to join the anti-Hitler coalition? On March 28, 1939, Hitler broke the non-aggression pact with Poland. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was concluded on August 23, 1939. Poland in the 30s pursued a different policy, constantly changing allies. Hitler put forward a proposal to Poland: to agree to the inclusion of the city of Danzig in Germany and to the creation of an extraterritorial corridor that would connect Germany with East Prussia. In exchange for the "Danzig Corridor", Germany offered to extend the Friendship Treaty for 25 years. In Poland, however, they decided not to make concessions
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By having access to Steam, some Russians and Chinese can discover foreign games and another point of view.
If you just punish them, they will just be more mentally and politically locked up. You should let them discover foreign point of view.
And it's important to try to maintain communication.
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I just talked with 2 Russians on Steam.
No i don't think the propagandists care, then just report and ban the propagandists. But these propagandists are not all Russians on Steam.
It's a bit like in the bible, when God asks to find ten righteous people not to destroy the city. I'm sure there are more than 10 righteous people in Russia, even if the "city" is corrupt.
And it's Steam purpose too, because entertainment is part of soft power, it is important to maintain it.
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Is it so-called review pollution?
I agree with the part about reprehensible behavior.
In two major countries....
Actions in support of Ukraine.
In one major country.
It seems that words and deeds are restricted.
It appears that we are not allowed to participate in that discussion.
As others have mentioned, it is not very desirable to have more similar topics.
There is also the fact that not too long ago Factorio also had its reviews tarnished by the Russia and Ukraine matter.
Those effects were removed by Steam's "review passed" decision.
The review war bloats the business to Steam and delays the proper response.
I would like to see a calm response to any violation of Steam's review rules, which I believe could affect the health of our accounts.
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Why all russian people should suffer because of bunch of Putin's zealots inside of Russia? Also many native russians don't have Putin's passport (Russian Federation).
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"They". Who are those "they" that you're speaking of? Plenty of Russians are protesting against the invasion. Plenty are not, because then again, plenty were arrested for protesting. They (those who have not been brainwashed by Putin's propaganda) feel helpless and afraid, too.
I agree with @coleypollockfilet. Steam shouldn't contribute to locking Russians out of every site where they might encounter worldviews that are not controlled by Putin. Putin is already trying to do that by crippling the freedom of the press and by blocking social media like Twitter & media outlets like BBC for Russian web users. The less Russians can access those sites, the more influential Putin's propaganda becomes.
Also, collective penalties are neither fair nor useful. Let's just ban the reviews. Steam should be able to do that.
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Well, RT was banned, why should they have left the BBC, who lied? Twitter is a dump. Unverified facts, the main thing is that they should be on the agenda that was lowered from above. When there is a complaint about Nazism, the answer is "This is different", although in Russia it is immediately banned. Let's remember Trump, his account was disabled, although he is from the USA.
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What about Putin's and his officials lies that they won't attack Ukraine before the invasion? What about constant lies on paRussia Today?
It's like comparing a person who accidently lied, let's say, 1 time, and a person who always speaks lies
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I do not know whether Prussia is lying now or not, due to the fact that since February 25, 1947, this country no longer exists. There is a Federal Republic of Germany on these lands and it is the legal successor of Prussia. But about DW, they are also not always ready to tell the truth.
And why don't you think that the media doesn't lie all the time, they may not lie, but they don't tell the whole truth.
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I was indicating that you're generalizing broadly.
Unless by "they", you're only speaking of the people who write nasty reviews because of their twisted worldview. But then again, why are you not proposing to ban all those people from Steam temporarily or permanently, instead of cutting of all Russians?
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i don't think the person you're replying to is talking about people like you, just the people who support the government's actions.
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are you grouping together all Europeans in response to a post saying not to group all Russians together?
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wtf..u said It's time for Valve to close Steam store in Russia and keep them from using the community. soooo what u said?
is it supposed to be somethin different?
sooo who's hate here?
i dont hate u.i dont even know u as u dont know me. i just said am russian and dont support war.
I hate senseless manifestations of Russophobia against ordinary people Like me.
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You don't support war but there is a man with automatic riffle on your ava, defenitelly a mercenary.
Just a statement, don't take it too serious
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Art and sport should not be politicized. What you are calling for only incites hatred. The fact that in recent years the United States has been involving art and sports in politics is dirty and stupid.
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As "gaming should not contain politics" is often used these days, I have to disagree.
There should be more politics in games. Maybe a broader part of every country's population would be more educated about politics then and dictators (and "politicians" that try to be dictators) would not get into power so far spread.
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The idea that you are willing to punish everyone for the actions of the few, indicates that you don't care that you punish those who have done nothing wrong. It actually is hateful to punish the innocent, no matter how much you deny it. These are very simple ideas and I am done arguing about it. Have a good day.
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I am done arguing about it.
Oh yep, you better stop trying to reason with her. Most often than not, when I stumble upon her comments, I find that she is either overreacting/being rude for no good reason, without having been provoked. Told her she should practice what she preaches... needless to say, my comment wasn't well-received.
I mean, she even went to say:
If you can't be helpful or polite or say good things then don't make a comment.
:3
Obviously, this does not apply to her personally.
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cant we vote the games up to reduce the damage and to show the developers that we appreciate what they do?
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that's so dumb. Steam will flag those reviews as off-topic and they won't count towards the overall rating. But hey.. if they want to waste their time..
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it's scummy, yes. but as i said before, it won't matter much in the end, especially if they are only targeting popular games. steam will flag those reviews to not count to the rating system soon enough. the only thing that they will do is to give more awareness to others about their campaign - it will just backfire on them. don't worry.
btw, thanks for mentioning thea. i must have missed that promotion :)
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It doesn't seem there is much of them, chernoblyte seems to have the same score it had, last time I checked
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/292030/The_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1091500/Cyberpunk_2077/
I'm not sure becauses of devs supporting Ukraine, or being vocal against Russian, but quite some reviewbombing.
Steam already noted it as an offtopic activity and didn't take the last few days' negative reviews into consideration
(March 4 - over 2k negative reviews on each game)
The Witcher Enhanced Edition and The Witcher 2 also got enough activity to trigger the system, but it's kind of negligible (still ~ 200 reviews)
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They waived their fee on This War of Mine so that 100% would go to humanitarian charities. Since then, they've been getting hit with hate by Putin trolls. That was BEFORE GOG made the decision to stop sales in Russia.
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These games were being hit for ceasing all sales for all russian accounts which is a bad news overall, I wasn't happy about it either.
Banning or punishing all russians for Putin's and his minions deeds is a very bad tactic.
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Sorry, but you don't have to be a Putin supporter to be angry about these companies. Some of them (like CD Project, Thing Trunk) have removed their games from Russian Steam store. Even if the blow was aimed at Putin, it hit the common gamers. So it seems like these gestures are all about nationalism and self-promotion, rather than doing a humanitarian thing.
As for those who just wanted to donate to Ukraine - I guess they are in their right to do so. But Russians are also in their right to warn their friends who might consider buying this game.
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I don't agree to stop selling games to Russians.
But about those (for example "this war of mine") who just wanted to donate for charity (and not for military), what to say ?
Beware this game wants to give to red cross to help civilians ? 😐
Same about Euro truck, devs released an ukrainian skin dlc to help civilians (not military) in need. So what ?
Since months, they plan to release a DLC about Russia too. Should they give up ? I don't think so.
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Putin trolls were already review bombing This War of Mine in February for donating all proceeds to the Red Cross. GOG had waived their fee. They started then review bombing games saying that GOG had taken a political side by waiving their fees. A political side in helping civilians? Wtf? On that note, I can't blame GOG for making that decision. I can't help thinking part of their decision was made because of the backlash they got over waiving the fee on This War of Mine.
Putin trolls are totally brainwashed. And we're not stupid enough to think that this is all Russians. Every country has extremists like this who just don't give a shite about ordinary people, so long as it benefits them in some way, or they THINK it benefits them in some way.
When This War of Mine was sold in the same way to help the people fleeing war in Syria, no one review bombed anyone. They even sell a DLC that supports the charity War Child ever since then.
It goes to show how much the Putin trolls are brainwashed into thinking that any help to Ukrainian people is somehow an attack on Russia. Crazy.
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People like to think in binary. Like: if they're not with us, they're against us. If they support Ukraine even through Red Cross, that means they are with nationalists who attack Donetsk and Lugansk. If they feel offended by companies bullying their country, that means they are Putin zealots and brainwashed.
I hate that everybody assumes I should be on some side. Remember, when one sides clearly lies that doesn't mean the other one is truthful. If one side seems bad, that doesn't make those who oppose it good, they all pursue their interests.
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Well... I cannot understand that way of thinking. It's like some Americans (extreme right people) that say "well if they can't afford their cancer treatment, they should die." Some people are inherently bad by nature, and just don't give a toss about the lives of other people. This is still not a majority of people, but it's enough people to make us notice. Them ones being against humanitarian aid is just them showing their true colours.
If some country had attacked Russia and citizens were suffering, or if a big natural disaster happened in your country. I would want to help you. I would donate whatever I could to humanitarian charities. I am not rich, but I always try to give something. This is what human beings do. We are supposed to try and help each other, even if it is only a little. Every little helps.
There are no excuses for the kind of thinking that civilians do not deserve to live, and you should not make excuses for this kind of thinking either. They are simply bad people who think this way.
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/369990/Gremlins_Inc/
Also Survarium but that game is shutting down soon... :(
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The only one I think deserves it is Book of Demons. They are the only game that raised its price in Russia by 1200%. They can hide behind their fancy words, but the action was just scummy and won't help in ending this situation at all, and will probably just have a counter effect and make Russian gamers angrier at these people who do this. Their country already has actually meaningful sanctions in place. These makeshift ones will do squat and to me just look like an easy way to get some good PR. Just look at EA. Instead of donating the money they earn from FUT for example, they removed digital stuff from their game and that's it. Wow. So brave, much helpful. Again, just looks like an easy way to get internet points by doing nothing that matters.
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About book of demons, i don't think price increase is fair. But just to precise, devs stated :
First of all, for the next seven days we commit to donating all income from the sales of our game on PC to NGOs that take care of refugees.
(...) This price change is a temporary measure to bring attention to this statement. Eventually, the price will return to normal levels.
So it seems devs gave to some NGO too, they didn't just increase the price.
And maybe the price will just really go back to normal, wait and see ?
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I've not paid attention to most recent news and the only game I was aware of was This War of Mine which I highly respect. I don't agree on people storming the reviews and just hate commenting on games because the developers decided to voice their support for their own colleagues and people from Ukraine.
I can see comments going over and over of what Ukraine has done in the past, and that may or not be true, we don't know yet. But what we know for sure is that his war is unjustified as civilian lives are being taken away for the simple reason that one man controls and dictates what's real or not, what's true or lie and what's theirs and what's not.
My prayers goes to all the lost lives for a vision of a madman.
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Looks like Steam is reacting and shows an asteriks next to the review numbers. If you hover over it it says something like "It seems this product received a lot of off-topic reviews".
And from the Steam wiki regarding review bombing:
"In all examples, the surge of volume and sentiment will calm down after a few days. The reviews during that period will be bucketed by Steam and identified as such by your customers. In the case of off-topic bombs, those reviews will not contribute to your overall score."
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This exists since a few years already
upd. yep, since 15th of March 2019 - https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1808664240333155775
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Yeah, but if you allow viewing asterisk reviews (like me), you'll still see such review bombings
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Seems they barely made a dent. It's a 5 digit review score and when I removed the filter, it just went down by 1%. This War of Mine is such a great game from story to gameplay which is quite appropriate right now. They can't bring this game down
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For the "final solution of the Russian question" like Hitler and Putin did?
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Such a medal may appear in reality, and not just as a joke in the collector's edition of the game "World in Conflict"
https://r4.mt.ru/r27/photo28A2/20573206006-0/jpg/bp.jpeg
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No, it just won't be like in Syria, but in a different way. For example, he will enroll in the army, raise production at the factory, and not arrange a civil war. Propaganda was able to provide enough examples of this. Moreover, they will prove that if there is a civil war, there will be no bread or 1000 rubles per loaf, which is now 50 rubles. And it is not always possible to get this 1000, due to the fact that there is not enough work.
It's just that at the moment the imposed sanctions do not affect the people at all, but only rejoice. Here they will find and confiscate a villa in France, so it's good, it was no good to buy it there. 95% of Russians (although I exaggerate and there will be 99.9%, but we hope for the best) there are no such villas, and they are unlikely to be, there would be a mortgage to pay for a simple 2-room apartment.
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Here one to think about. Just something to keep you all up at night.
Each World War start date adds up to 68 when adding in groups of two.
World War 1 started on July 28, 1914
07+28+19+14 = 68
World War 2 started on September 1, 1939
09+01+19+39 = 68
The current Invasion of Ukraine started on February 24, 2022
02+24+20+22 = 68
So tell me how trippy is that. That’s a big coincidence is it not? Or is it the sign that this will be WW3 ?
So why 68 ? I don’t know, could be biblical I guess as you got three 6’s in the beginning that symbolic to the mark of the beast and then you got three 8’s that can represent Jesus in some biblical numerology.
Either way, still pretty crazy regardless if it means anything or nothing that all the dates add up to 68, and appear as a telling sign almost.
Wonder how hard hit I’ll be now with replies lol, either way, try to win some games and enjoy life as much as possible as no one is here to stay, no matter what you believe in or what the current conditions are in todays world we all gonna check out and it can be sooner then later; so make the best of each day you have :)
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And what if...WW2 started earlier when Hitler invaded CZ not only Poland?
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What if you count WW1 date to be when the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand took place ?
But if you go by the dates that are listed as being the correct dates today. Then they do add up to 68. It a matter of opinion and something to think about. I always said WW1 started with the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand. But according to what is being considered the start date by historians, it July 28, 1914. So that the data I’m going by, the ones posted and being learned mainstream at the current times.
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The Anschluss became part of the official foreign policy pursued by Hitler. In 1937, some leaders of the victorious countries in the First World War allowed the possibility of Austria joining Germany, which was prohibited by the Treaty of Versailles and other documents. Austrian Chancellor Kurt Schuschnigg appointed a plebiscite on March 13, 1938, at which the question was to be raised: whether the people wanted to have "an independent and social, Christian and own Austria." Hitler responded by ordering the mobilization of an army to invade Austria. On the night of March 12, German troops entered the territory of the country, the Austrian army capitulated without resisting. On March 13, 1938, the law "On the Reunification of Austria with the German Empire" was published, according to which Austria became a German land.
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If you really want to take September 1939, then not September 1, but September 3.
On September 1, at 4:45 a.m., German troops launched an offensive without declaring war. On September 3, Great Britain and France declared war on Germany. The Second World War has begun.
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Imo that's extremely scummy behaviour to support Putin's government whose army bombs civilian cities and invades the neighboring country, and especially to review bomb projects who support civilians (not an army)
Actual list of review bombed games:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/282070/This_War_of_Mine/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/378720/Thea_The_Awakening/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/606230/Thea_2_The_Shattering/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1016800/Chernobylite/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/449960/Book_of_Demons/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/552620/ATOM_RPG_Postapocalyptic_indie_game/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1139940/ATOM_RPG_Trudograd/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/369990/Gremlins_Inc/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/355840/Survarium/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/107410/Arma_3/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/863590/Starcom_Nexus/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/351480/Age_of_Fear_The_Undead_King/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/427520/Factorio/
Feel free to suggest more such suffered Steam games onto the list (with URLs)
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