Sorry for what's likely a noob question, but I've never owned a 4K (Ultra HD) television, nor a 4K monitor.

I have my gaming rig hooked up to a ~12 year old 46" HTDT (Sony Bravia) and really have no problems with it. However, I'm considering getting a new 4K TV down there (for TV/movies mostly), but am wondering how it might impact my gaming. I skimmed some of the content here but it's mostly talking about 4K monitors-- or maybe there's no effective difference in a 4K TV vs. monitor.

I also read the following:

4K TV settings often have a lot of post-processing effect enabled by default that cause input lag. Even settings like game-mode can cause input lag issues. Try disabling effects such as 'Auto-Smoothing' and the like or switching your TV to PC mode to remove many of these effects.

I don't play twitch reflex games, but I don't want compatibility issues playing non-4K games, or having to fiddle around with a bunch of settings. Will I start having difficulties running non-4K games on a 4K TV?

Thanks for any insights.

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Modern TVs have Gamer-specific settings which switch most if not all post-processing off.
Depending on the model there may even be Variable Refresh Rate for example or other stuff for modern consoles.
Best to search which TV-Model you're looking to get and read or watch reviews.
Edit: I can recommmend the british channel HDTVtest for no-nonsense reviews and guides.
https://www.youtube.com/@hdtvtest

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That's a good tip about variable refresh rate. I'll look for it in my new TV. Thanks for the reply!

1 year ago
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rtings.com has great reviews including recommended settings and input lag measurements.
I'm guessing the situation is pretty similar for your old TV too though, all TVs have some level of input lag, nothing special about 4k in that regard. You can still run games at 1080p on the 4k monitor if your rig can't keep up.
IMHO you wan to turn off all that post-processing stuff anyway (including for TV/Movies).

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rtings.com looks like a good place to look-- thanks for the reply. I guess I'm just looking for 4K-specific gotchas when running 1080p or even old games that don't even run at 1080p.

1 year ago
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My experience,

Newer Sony Bravia TVs seem to have really nice 4K upscaling from lower resolutions, and decent input lag in game mode. I have a 65" Sony Bravia from ~2019, I think it's a X900F. Nintendo Switch games look like they're running native 4K.

I also have a 55" LG CX OLED. This has better input lag in game mode, but the upscaling from 1080p is considerably less impressive than the 3 year older Bravia

1 year ago
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I love Sony Bravias. The problem is that all of the new ones appear to be no smaller than 55", but due to physical limitations of the space, I can only accomodate a 50" screen! That said, I'm also looking for a 55" TV for a different room (that should be able to accommodate 55"), and is connected to a Switch. :) Thank you for the reply.

1 year ago
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4K is exactly 4 times 1080p so scaling is very easy for the TV, you can run any game at 1080p if the game do not support it or the graphic card is not good enough to run it at 4K at a decent frame rate.

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Thank you for the reply. But is this all automatic, and how does the game decide if the graphic card is good enough to run it at 4K?
Also, what about older games that aren't even 1080p?

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is this all automatic

No, you must configure each game at the corresponding resolution or run all games at 1080p if the TV upscaling is good enough so you can't barely distinguish between it and 4K.

what about older games that aren't even 1080p?

The TV upscales every resolution to 4K, if it is below 1080p then the image will be blurrier.

1 year ago
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I have 42" oled TV as my compter monitor, so PC or steam does automatically the scaling automatically, usually at fullscreen it just lowers windows resolution to what ever you set it at game's settings and at windowed mode it scales the game's window to the resolution you set it at game's settings.
So atleast to me it is automatic.
Ps. even Larry suit game's 640x480 fixed resolution looks very good on 4k monitor!

1 year ago
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If you're looking for high-end TVs, watch the HDTVTest-channel on YT: Vincent Teoh is the guru of high-end TVs.

Short and simple answer: You can run all your games on a 4K-TV. They get upscaled.
The nitty-gritty is where it get's a little more complicated. We have to get into a more detailed conversation to figure out your needs and budget. Or I can simply recommend the best gaming 4K-TV to you.

Let me give you a brief review of how I am doing it:

  • Very high-end 4K-TV with 4 HDMI 2.1-ports (sadly not full bandwith, but 40GBpS)
  • Xbox Series X straight into one of the HDMI ports for native 4K 120FPS gaming
  • PS5 straight into another one of the HDMI ports for native 4K 60FPS gaming
  • Steam-Link (Box) connected to the AVR which is plugged into the eArc-HDMI-port of the TV

Sadly, the Steam-Link Box can only do Full-HD-gaming (so 1080p), but that's okay, because my PC also only can do Full-HD-gaming. The Full-HD games get upscaled via TV to 4K, so I can play every Steam game on the TV.
BUT they look a little bit worse: colours are a little washed out, they are a little darker, and you have slightly more input lag. The same games look more vibrant if I play the native 4K-version on one of the native 4K-consoles. But the effects are really minimal, so that I do enjoy my upscaled PC games on the TV in my living room.

That's still a basic answer by me, by the way :D It does get more complicated, if you want to be more detailed.

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Haha, thank for you the reply...it does appear to be quite complicated. I wasn't really looking for a high(est)-end TV. I just wanted to educate myself a bit about gaming with a 4K TV before I replaced my 12-year-old Sony Bravia (which I still love). <3

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Than I'll do it quick and dirty:
The best 4K Gaming-TV regarding value for money in 2023 is the LG Oled C3 in 42". Release date will be in May this year. To save a pretty penny, you can also go for the LG Oled C2 in 42" from last year.

The G-series is a step above the C-series, but is meant for enthusiasts.

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Thank you. Will they have a 50" variety? My old Sony is 46" and I'm not looking to go smaller, but the physical space prevents me from getting anything larger than 50", sadly. It looks like the C2 comes in 48" and 55". It's still 1,100 USD, though. Hmmm.

1 year ago
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No 50", but 48", as you found out yourself :)

1 year ago
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Better to get a "future proof" 4k then a 1080p now. What if you want to watch a 4k movie? Also as others have said, it can do 1080p fine. It will either upscale (if its pricier) or simple change the resolution down to 1080p. The higher res screen will still look better even if you won't get more details, etc. If you ever get a steam-deck, I believe it can do 4k upscaling.

1 year ago
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Yes, I agree with getting a 4K TV...I was just worried about gaming. I don't stream things often so I'm not too worried about 4k movies, but ofc it will become more and more common. Thanks for the reply.

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Upscaling to 4K isn't a problem so long as you don't care about it being pixel-perfect (such as for pixel art and retro games), as that requires integer scaling and most TV manufacturers don't include it. 4K is a perfect multiple of 1080p with exactly double the vertical and horizontal pixels, so if you can find a 4K TV with integer scaling 1080p signals will look extremely crisp, but in general TVs will instead only be able to upscale in a blurry fashion.

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Yeah, I guess I'll just have to see how it looks. I will look for 4K TVs with reviews that suggest it can upscale more / better. Maybe I'll keep a lookout for "integer scaling." Thanks for the reply.

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