i want a program that drop all cards from all games in one go.
I have 300+ games with cards backed up.
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Steam is changing shit for trades and the market again? Where is this announcement?
Anyway, I don't have a smart phone either, so I use the Steam Desktop Authenticator instead. I had been thinking of getting a tablet for a while, so I finally bought myself a cheap one for xmas. I still continue to use SDA rather than using the official Steam Android app for authentication because I find it more convenient.
It's good that Valve is implementing better security to protect users, but I hate that they're requiring everyone to use it for trades and to use the market. Make these security features optional and make it so opting out forfeits any support from Steam if you fall prey to fraud.
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you wouldn't get any support anyway, so that wouldn't change a thing
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I don't understand how someone who owns a computer isn't able to own a smartphone. It's not that expensive.
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It's not that everyone wants to have a smartphone. I personally know 3 people who just don't want to have it - they don't use internet, don't make photos, don't play in angry birds. So it's useless to them, they preffer to have something which battery will last longer than one day (two at tops) and will give them ability to make calls / send sms.
Also there are regions where GSM signal is weak or non existent, so it makes having wireless phone useless.
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I understand, but in that case, it's not about being unable to have it. It's about not wanting to.
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It's not that everyone wants to have a smartphone.
Me. :)
I still use Windows Phone, but because I needed something for easy internet access when travelling. But unless I'm travelling, I'm never playing/using internet on it/taking photos or anything like that, as I think its not healthy to be connected 100% of the time. Its just like a dumb phone.
And even having a Windows Phone I'm screwed as well as there is no Steam mobile app for it. :/
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tbh the only reason i use an "smartphone" is to use whatsapp (and i dont even need one to do so), i've had the same phone for the past 3 years, i concider buying a new phone a total waste of money because i have no use for it, why do i need a gigantic phone with procesing power ? phones are for texting and calling and the casual game while taking a dump.
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I can't imagine living without my phone. I need music everywhere I go. :P
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mmm thats true... i used to be the same but as for some reason i continuely break headphones within a month i can aford that xD
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It's not just about having smarphone or not.
I do own smartphone [even thought I don't really care for those] and can't use it. I'm not getting another one just so I can use Steam App.
jschackles (Idlemaster author, fyi) said " I've still not been able to get the Steam Authenticator working with my phone/carrier. I'm not particularly mad, but it makes buying games from Steam a lot less appealing of a proposition going forward.", which implies that he does have one too.
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Some smartphones are more expensive than a good gaming computer where I live. Also, not everyone likes or has Android or iOS. There's Windows Phone, Firefox OS, Ubuntu touch, an some others, although less popular.
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But some are not. I wasn't aware the Steam app only works in those.
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well, I didnt have a smartphone til last year as well. :|
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I own a smartphone, but I refuse to give my phone number to Valve, especially not after the recent cached screw-up where I could view almost all personal data of other people
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Really liked the program, it helped me get some games on cheap prices if I'm low on cash. Sad to see it being discontinued. I sincerely thank you for this and best of luck for you in the future!
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what about we all send complaint about the new change ?
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NOOOOOOOOOOO....Hopefully someone will take over, really sad day... first "15 days" bullshit and now this :/
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Thanks for all the good times! Made it through my backlog at least, that took months.
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Thanks so much for the awesome program! Such a shame to see you quit working on it. But very understandable.
At least we can still use it for some time (hopefully a long time). Valve will probably never do anything against the app.
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Directly from the steam discussion thread,so maybe you'll see this message and get motivated to keep on developing your program,since there is a fix for the 15 days problem. Sorry for bad englando.
Use the steam desktop authenticator instead of dropping the ball on a program tons of people are using just because it doesn't work for you anymore,when it can be fixed? I thank you for making the program and not asking anything for it , but i don't get why you're stopping developing your program... because you can no longer sell the cards you unlock for 15 days? AFAIK you will STILL unlock the cards , so the program will still work for you,if it's for the 15 days stop,just use a desktop authenticator. Thank you for the program.
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He also originally backed out of developing Enhanced Steam for Firefox when he felt that it was too much trouble to port the changes he made in Chrome to Firefox. He's very tempermental and if anything inconveniences him or makes him have to do anything he doesn't want to do, he'll drop a project in a heartbeat.
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But you still need to add phone number, which may be a problem.
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I looked into this and unfortunately there's no good option for those outside the US (ie. a helluva lot of Steam users).
The Textnow.com private number expires after a few days of not sending out a SMS text, and for Steam use that would be disasterous because it's a number which you'll need access to on a permament basis for your acount (with the way they have it set up now).
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He's not author, he just copy-posted info from original thread.
Also I don't think that IM creator is in any way obliged to spend he's personal time on doing something he doesn't want anymore when it doesn't give him any money.
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Valve is the bad guy here because they are trying to get all data they can get their mits on, screw up our privacy and not protect it at all (like in the recent leak). They are actively punishing people who refuse to share sensitive data with them
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When did a phone number become sensitive data? I get a book listing everyones in my area every year :p
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Sure, but these books contain people you either know or have no contact with (and usually landline phones, not private cell phones), and not random people on the Internet who want to stay anonymous. There's a difference between real life and the Internet, people go nuts, it brings out the worst in us. Just look at Twitter or Tumblr, sickening shit is being said constantly, but most would never even think those things when faced with "real" people. There's a difference between knowing a random phone number and knowing a phone number of that asshole who wrecked you at DOTA2.
You can make one's life very problematic just by knowing their phone number. Lots of potential for trolling, doxxing, or even tracking down and stalking.
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Ya but they aren't putting your phone number beside your profile name for everyone to look at. And if stuff gets hacked I'm more worried about payment info and the like than a phone.
Even if people did hack it, and get my phone, I can always change my number. Or do what I do with cold-call telemarketers, blow a whistle into their ears.
I mean hell, they get hacked they are gonna have my Address, that scares me far more.
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Well, I was referring to the cache incident, where people's phone numbers (and addresses, and other things, including enough of credit card number to fuck you over) were leaked, and a bunch of stupid people posted screenshots to prove they could see the whole things...
I have way too many business contacts to change my number
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It was only the last 3-4 digits of a CC, that can't mess with you. Also Steam doesn't display your full phone number even in your account page. Just says "Ends in ####", last 4 digits.. so like your CC, even if people see a snapshot of it, you are still left without much of the needed info.
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4 digits plus address and maybe your name is enough to mess with you, and if you get a phone number on top of that? You could do nasty shit. Most services only require you to verify only 4 last digits.
During the cache incident, their privacy stuff went haywire. It's show only partial number, or the whole thing. You can do a lot with info that was provided.
TotalBiscuit did a stupid thing and talked in detail about that incident, and accidently gave a detailed tutorial how to frak with people with what was provided.
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Um the app is still gonna work anyway. Its pretty stable.
but if something breaks it.. RIPitos.
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Card price can fluctuate wildly in a span of a few days, much less 2 weeks. You miss it by 1 cent, and you're stuck waiting another 15 days.
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This.
To explain better, when you list a card for example $0,10, and there are 30 cards selling for $0,08, 40 for $0,09 and 20 for $0,10, when you list yours for $0,10, you will be the 21th of the line.
So you have to wait the day that there is more demand than offer for all prices (which can be random), and see all the $0,08 cards be sold, all the $0,09 be sold, and all the 20 cards at $0,10 before yours be sold.
So if in that day, lets say, people buy all $0,08 and all $0,09 but only 10 at $0,10, you will drop to 10th of the line, but then eventually there will be more offers than demand and people will list their cards for less, until there is a lot of cards with lower value to be sold before yours, and when the demand reaches $0,10, you will still have to hope to exactly 10 at the price be sold that day.
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Not really the same at all, because sellers often reprice their cards depending on supply/demand forces at any given time, and that will mean a new 15 day wait each time a relisting is made (AFAIK). Which pretty much makes it a nightmare for that reason alone.
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oh well... that sucks big time, but, hey, you did history on steam. a big thank you for EVERYTHING you did for all steam users so far... you may wanna share a donate button somewhere. I'm pretty sure people want to donate you something after all you done so far.
now I'll have to find a way to understand the alternative one because I don't have a clue where to start...
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Fuck me. Now Archi can finally claim my soul ;_;.
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And those fucking scammers just create an authorised account with the help of a 2-5 dollar SIM card and a week of waiting and continue scamming people as much as they want.
Meanwhile, average users without the mobile guard now more or less cannot sell anything on the market that has a decent amount of daily exchange traffic.
So yeah, great protection.
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Fun fact: Valve will not return your stolen items anymore - you're guilty until proved otherwise, which is "are you a Valve-Game Pro Player? No? Fuck off".
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- Valve introduced skins/items in game.
- Valve wanted a cut of the profits from selling those items and skins between players.
- Valve created the community market, and even added trading cards, emoticons, and backgrounds to make still more money.
We wouldn't need any of this garbage if Valve hadn't created such a screwed up item economy in the first place. They practically waved hackers and account thieves in with the lure of hidden treasures, and now they're trying to patch the levee with duct tape.
I beg to differ -- I have every right to direct my frustration toward Valve. ;)
The hackers and thieves are a close second, followed by the idiots who don't know how to use the internet safely.
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Thanks for everything, Idle Master has been very useful for a long time but Im going to give up that card farming stuff since I dont have a cel phone, i dont want to emulate or anything just for a couple of cents to buy a game every 3 or 5 months. Hopefully Steam community sales go down and they do something about it.
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I already have it installed though. I won't be able to use it anymore? o.O
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You can, but if Valve changes anything in the Steam API again, then it may be rendered useless.
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As long as it's working, I'll keep using it then. :P
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Whenever I finish writing the references in my master project. I didn't know that references could be as much as the master project itself. xD Ok, I'm exaggerating, but they're still too much. o.O
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I could't write in any references from books or english articles older than last 10 years in master thesis. It was pain in the ass xD
So you're forgiven. For now.
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Good for you xD Prof. from my department said we can't use "old and outdated sources" so yeah... It was tought to find sources sometimes xD
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I know it's hard. And I can't find any source in Greek, only English. :P And because it's old, doesn't mean it's wrong. ;P
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It will be discontinued, but it doesn't mean it will suddenly stop working. Steam always knew about IdleMaster and not even once they've tried to block it. The reason for this is: more card selling = more money for them. And you can easily trick steam by changing ID of a game in a file to an ID of a game you want to idle. More work, because you have to change ID manually every time and you need to know how many cards each game drops, but still possible.
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Windows Phone's users cannot to use this security measure too. I see this very unfair...
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- Connect your phone number to Steam
- Use one of the many desktop alternatives that will work with Steamguard.
- ???
- Profit \o/
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Sorry, but I will not pay for something that they must offer us for free. Security is an important thing that all users must have.
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Pay for what? The Desktop versions are free, and all you need is a phone that gets texts, which is just about all of them now.
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Sorry, but in my country to receive a SMS has a cost. Not in yours?
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Some plans do, but thats 5-10cents, one time. Once you have a mobile number tied to your account you never need to get another txt again.. unless of course something bad happens, then it's worth it and that 5-10c was worth it lol.
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Oh, I didn't know that. I thought that I need a SMS everytime I log in like Authenticator app.
Anyways, this method seems to not remove the restriction of 15 days.
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PEOPLE.. why are you all like Idle Master is going to shut down? it will be still working! so just use the last version. its good enough.
:)
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First steam change such as new sale will effectively kill it.
I've been dealing with the same shit in ASF.
So in best case, it'll work approx. till June-July.
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Why would a new sale kill it? you still can run old Idle masters (what are not updated)
you want to farm game A? well with a new sale you still can farm game A. idk how it can kill it if you only will allow to run games in the background.
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appIDs my friend, steam community reporting sale games as available for farm, and idle master being stuck on them.
Been there, done that. You'll see yourself.
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hm interesting. Well it will be open source.. so if someone just edit the update and uploads it.. guess it will be available but in as a small group who still continues to use it. what do you think?
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I didn't say that you can't edit source of IM, recompile, and keep using. I said that it will eventually break and you'll need to get down to this, and nobody will release any official update, because software is discontinued.
It's up to you at this point what you want to do. I'm happy that I'm able to provide users with alternative, it's like giving them a helpful hand, whether they'll grab it, or kick it away, it's really up to them, I'm not paid to make your life easier :3.
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Well thats true so we will see how this is going to end.. and i like your alternative btw. even tho i couldnt get in to it yet (i did tried it before) so thats goood :D
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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/idlemastery#announcements/detail/666902171288054077
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