Haha, don't have the skills!

Admin will be like...?

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Sure you're very more active over here than me, so now I think you're acusing me of being what I'm trying to avoid.

Real CV isn't a thing that we can blind consider but can't be ignored either, if the groups that I'm in says that i'm abusing of my wins, I will be indexed too. No hypocrisy.

I have a fleeting feeling not many users would pass a sent_cv>won_cv & ratio_public_sent>ratio_public_won check… =)

I won bundled, i gave bundled. Real CV is complicated if we really consider that we get packs of games for $1.

The problem is that you are stirring up a hornet's nest. It is not a secret that elitism is a large problem in the forum-goer active community, and that the site has a ton of small closed groups which are almost like trading groups that also happen to farm CV in the meantime. (And the occasional groups that are small but a bit more… positive in approach, like acting as extended wishlists.)
Additionally, self-policing SteamGifts has led to some rather nasty arguments in the past. Self-policing giveaway-oriented groups has an even worse track record/infamy.
Your heart may be in the right place, but there are so many factors, so many smaller views on how this site should work and approach its user base can be clashing here that I doubt it you or anyone could find an answer. (I mean, look at it: not even the site admin, who in the past has been—jokingly—revered as sort of a SteamGifts deity, can now introduce changes that don't meet at least a moderate amount of vocal discontent. And he still has the largest influence on the crowd.)

Real CV shouldn't ever be considered for anything (my opinion).

It doesn't matter to me how much money someone spent on this or that game.
What actually matters is how much money I'm not spending or simply don't have at the time to spend.

A good game goes on sale for 75% off: lots of people buy it while I can't currently buy it.
It doesn't matter to me they only spent $15 on it, what matters is that I'm not having to spend $60.

but I can't understand why uninterested in the index come here and try to bomb what even didn't started

Because you're posting in discussions, not on a trading post or in a newspaper. If somebody wants to express his opinion about particular thing, he's free to do so.

Well, I definitely don't fit the whole none leecher thing. I leech. I leech all the time, far more than I give honestly. Leecher powers activate.

Everyone says that, couldn't imagine a different word with my limited vocabulary. Give me a light please.

Good point, it's the old "who watches the watchmen?" problem.

There will be a SG Reptilian World Order behind the public one

So now i've claimed the group for me? Why? Because i've created it? Ok, so if it was a LVL10 member the idea would be appreciated! I get it from your point of view, the problem is me. Hahahahahaha... Pff... I'd like to share some ideas, they aren't always the best and indeed SG "lords" likes to disturb the subject a little, but it's okey.

I answered the questions you've made on this thread, just put the pieces together, you're smart.

Well, saying like this it seems that we should only gave our thrust to those who have qualification, credibility or leadership, but if my idea didn't fits to your requirements or needs, i really don't care if i'm qualificated, have credit or can be your leader somehow because our interests conflict and you don't need it, you're just here to talk and "follow the wind" like the others that saw an opportunity to make they dead sunday less dead on a subject that has been dealt a lot of times ON THE RIGHT PLACE.

Is the site elitist? Because the vast majority of giveaways are done publicly, and they're for lower levels.And people do give good games for the lower levels ie not bundle trash. Most people don't use Sgtools either, is there an elitist element to it, of course there is. But even then it's a blip. It's not like I'm smothered in lvl 10 giveaways of AAA games, or even AA games, I don't honestly look that hard for them to be honest. I am after all a massive leech

And have you stopped for a moment and looked at yourself?

Since I changed the entire fundaments of my Touhou Giveaways group from giveaways to community, we had ZERO leechers that would be kicked due to excessive leeching since end of 2015. We organize recruitments on usual basis, we accept lots of new faces on usual basis, I'm personally sending my staff after new people, doing 1 hour long introduction how the group works to ensure that nobody is alone, confused, or feels uneasy. We encourage every member to join us on the chat, we're organizing lots of public and private events, and the entire group is so positive that many existing members call it a true utopia created inside SG. I spent hours on coding anti-leechers ArchiBoT module that kicks people as soon as it finds them in giveaways they're not eligible for, and the only usage of it since end of 2015 is notifying members that they should leave giveaways once somebody wins a ratio-killer - this is a giant success.

If you're trying to build a group without community aspect, then don't expect from people to act like one. The group is as strong as the leader is.

Hierarchy didn't means anything in our group, DEMOCRACY is the word!

Then don't expect from your group to work if majority of people you recruited don't care about it and see it as +1 to their list of groups they win giveaways from.

https://touhou.justarchi.net/about/rules

We reserve the right to remove you from group at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately. Being part of the group is a privilege, not a right

Effect? In the screenshot. 40+ people each day talking/playing with each other in the best possible atmosphere, far away from dramas, insults, and huge amount of salt.

I believe everybody should have one group he feels very positive about, and I'm group leader myself so I know how awesome it is to do something positive for the people - but you've just built the same group as 7239 people before you, with the same rules and the same concept, and now once you realized that nobody cares you want to create yet another group (because group with inside VIP group itself is not enough) that would organize public witch hunt after "leechers", and now you expect from other people to join you. How are you in position to state who is a "leecher" and who is not? Why should I join you, if I don't share any of your problems, neither your point of view? And if you target your post to those 7239 groups similar to your one then why should they join you, if they don't care at all about your one?

I don't want to discourage you, neither spread negativity, since I know your problem as I also went through this, but you're attempting to fix syndrome of your issue and not the cause. You're trying to build a house from half-broken bricks and you expect from people to create alliance marking the worst kind of bricks so you can ensure that you have 1/4 quality bricks and above, instead of putting effort in making existing ones better.

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I completely got OP's point and I still believe that this is complete nonsense due to no regulations whatsoever, and people that could regulate it to some degree don't have a need to do so. I don't want to see people getting on public shame list for being kicked from some specific group. Such thing could work only if every group followed the same rules, for example what is happening with scammers and steamrep (and even that one has many flaws).

And this is with me participating only in my own group and being completely neutral towards such thing existing or not as a group-leader, since I simply wouldn't use it in any way. Member-wise I'm against though, this is a very bad idea straight from its fundaments.

Yeh, got a little twisted on words choose and it sounds a little natzi, heh. Didn't expected so many emotion!