So im currently fancying this hardware beauty (please disregard the hungarian text) for about 500 euros approx and I was wondering if such machine could handle games like GTA V, Dying Light, MGS V well? or should I look for something better?

im not being a huge expert in hardware so I apologise If Im asking something silly

9 years ago

Comment has been collapsed.

Why HDD 7200? they are not really faster, and are more expensive. SSD are much better
you need to check the GPU specs, hadn't had time for that. PSU and everything else seems fine

i usually don't like premade PCs but if its cheap

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

fair point, i cant really afford to use a SSD instead og the traditional HDD atm unfortunatly XD

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

That's not particularly true.
7200 RPM drives will generally be hitting in the 90-130 MB/s range, while 5400 RPM drives are more frequently in the 50-70, with some that have fantastic caches catching near to the worst of the 7200 RPM drives on the market. The overall speed is reasonably noticeable, though it's clearly nowhere near the speeds of a SATA III SSD in the 450+ MB/s reading speeds... That said, there is hardly any price difference at all between 7200 and 5400 RPM, at least here in the US. In fact, 5400 RPM drives often are the ones that cost more, as typically they are only sold in the 2.5" laptop form factor, which costs more than a standard desktop 3.5" drive. The only exception to that I can think of off hand is a WD Caviar Green sold as 5400 RPM In the 3.5" form, and in all reality I wouldn't be caught dead using one of those. Not only are they notoriously slow, but they are the only thing I've ever really seen from WD that had any significant issues reported with drive failure rates.

So really, it's quite easily worth going with a 7200 RPM drive. Your argument is theoretically valid if we are instead discussing 7200 RPM (which is standard) versus the ridiculous high end 10,000 RPM (WD Velociraptor) or 15,000 RPM enterprise HDDs. Those cost enough, and the speed increase is honestly not necessarily noteworthy enough to warrant using them over SSDs, however even there there is an argument in favor at higher capacities, as I would take a 200-250 MB/s 1-2TB 10/15k RPM HDD sold for around $250 US over having to spend $1k on a 1TB SSD just to get that 450-550 MB/s read speed, for gaming.

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Any Green or more eco-friendly drives usually means the drives power down quicker when not in use in order to save energy, they are more suited for the occassional backup instead of running continuously, thus, they aren't built to handle the strain of constant use. That is how I understand it at least, thought it would be interesting to share

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Sequential speeds aren't really that important at all except for transferring large files. The advantage of SSDs is their seek time compared to traditional rotating HDDs (0.1 ms vs 8 ms). For gaming, 4K random read/write performance is still more dominant as well.

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I don't like AMD, but it looks good

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

me neither but yeah XD im not sure If I could afford a config with nvidia card in it

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The radeon R9 270 is the equivalent to Geforce GTX 660ti aprox

You can run GTA, dying light, etc . but not in ULTRA

and it's importand to have in mind that many games are not well optimized for AMD

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

hm i see

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Since I'm not accustomed with AMD, purely from the look of the specs, I would say your machine will handle games just fine.

Happy gaming! \m/

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

im still planning so far but thankies ^^ currently trying to see what kind of config I might be able to afford at the end of august

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

the cpu 'sucks' in comparison to higher end intel so the question is if you can wiggle around different parts when buying manually to make it a better system while still being 500euro budget... is this a hard budget? can you wait a little longer? intel skylake cpus launch in 1-2 months, there may also be back to school sales in general, july is just an awkward time

how WELL do you want to run things, 30fps+ mostly high settings at 1080p?

another idea is to get cheaper older generation parts, like a gtx770 or even gtx680 which would be quite faster than a not so nice 270 non-x (which is actually a 7850)

EDIT: about the optimization comment earlier, 'many' is too strong of a word, only a few have actual glaring problems rather than a few fps difference, like project cars

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Well im planning to buy the rig at least at the beginning of september, so yeah

My budget is quite a hard one, since I doubt I can really afford more than 540 euro (max) to spend on it, Im mostly looking for a strong medium-entry high end pc but I cannot decide whether I will buy a premade config or I will try and build one myself.

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

do you have price comparison sites like pcpartpicker? are you ordering from hungary or is anywhere online in EU fine? you want as strong as possible with in the budget yes, but that doesnt always mean the latest parts since they can easily end up slower than higher end older parts that are on clearance sale (or used)

another way to go about it is to start with probably the most important choice... the gfx card, let's say 960 or 280x or 380 or 770, you check multiple stores for prices, you figure out what the amount is, then you have the leftover amount in the budget for the rest... so next could be cpu, comparing both amd & intel with their relevant motherboard options... then keep going, maybe skipping parts that arent important (an optical drive is not important, a cpu cooler likely wont be important, a case with a window is not as important as a case with room/airflow)

a year ago i ordered a case that i was very pleased with for the price ~$47cdn, it's a cooler master N200, it is for microATX size motherboards not full ATX, but it was simple, to the point, comes with two 120mm fans, has mounts for more fans, bottom hard drive cage can be removed, & the overall design doesnt look stupid

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Always check your budget, if you want high end specs for gaming go Nvidia and Intel, If you don't care and in low budget go always for AMD

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Ask on a hardware forum because you won't get as many trash answers as you will here.

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1 the cringe is real

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

@OP, go ask in /r/buildapc or if you can go self-assembled /r/buildapcforme

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Thanks for the tip, gonna check it out

9 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Closed 9 years ago by TatsuyaHiro.