I suggested this in a random topic and more and more people keep sending feedback so let's just discuss this in here where everyone can give some input.

What would you guys think about limiting the number of daily entries per user for public giveaways or for a specific category of giveaways? Or at least giving the option to the gifters.

In other words: each user can only enter 5 public (or new category) giveaways per day.

This way everyone would have a better chance to win and people might only enter for games they actually want this time.

We could start off with a 5 entry limit, see how much of an impact it makes and reduce it further if it's not enough.

I've seen the issue of the time zone brought up before but it wouldn't be a factor here since everyone would get the same number of entries per 24h (use server time maybe?).

Thoughts?

EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION:

  • This limit would only be applied to a specific type of giveaways. Public for instance, or a new category that doesn't currently exist. Group giveaways or other categories would NOT be affected.

  • It would not be unfair since everyone gets the same limit for this specific pool of giveaways, and everyone gets 24 hours to pick what they want.

Example:

  • Public giveaway: restricted only by points

  • Group giveaway: restricted to members of a group and by points

  • etc.

  • Limited entry giveaway: restricted by points, each user can only enter 5 of these per day

tl;dr You would still be able to enter all the giveaways you want + up to 5/3/1 of a new category daily

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HAhahahah, no. What do you think points are for? Decoration?

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When you get 500 or so points a day, yea, pretty much

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Your maximum points at any given time are 300.

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I think he meant, you use up all 300, then you get 200 more.

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But that's never happened to me before. ._.

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Thanks sherlock, I totally didn't know that

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The point system would still be valid, this way you can't enter 5 Bethesda Collection. Only public giveaways would be restricted by this entry limitation (or giveaways of this new specific category).

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Why only Public? That's basically like what that other guy suggested "Contributor Perks", that'll be really unfair :|

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Public or whatever category. Everyone would have the same limit so it would not be unfair.

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If you're only limiting public then it would be unfair. If it's in another category... not so sure about that one.

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That was my first thought also, "L".

This is a horrible suggestion. The points system is there for a reason.

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"and people might only enter for games they actually want this time."

this I want..

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You know, some people actually are honest and enter only giveaways that have games they're really interested in. I consider myself one of them. Too bad the majority of SG community consists of these greedy people who want to win something just for the sake of winning...

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Well if you're new to the site I think you'd want to try to win every game. But after a few months you'd tone down a bit (at least I did), I only enter for games I'm interested in now and never win xD

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Actually you're right. I hate to admit this, but I have one shameful winning myself... I joined this site during the infamous SummerSeal -thing and there were tons of Shadowgrounds giveaways. I entered many of them and eventually won Shadowgrounds Survivor. I was never really interested in that game, but I had so many points I figured I could spend them on whichever giveaway had the best odds of winning. I'm still a little bit ashamed of my past ignorance :(

I know it sounds really naive, but I'm doing this for myself. I want to win only games I know I'll truly appreciate. That way I won't disappoint the creator of the giveaway by never playing his gift, and I won't rob the chances of winning from someone who really wants that game :)

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Then points would go to waste all the time.

Useless.

Also bot will occur to join valuable giveaways before slots fill and shit

So No.

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Not a limit per giveaway, a limit per user PER DAY and only for giveaways of a specific category. Like any number of user can enter but each user can only enter 5 giveaways of this type.

1 decade ago
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add captcha

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For why? If a user made a bot to enter giveaways it wouldnt give them an advantage. It would just be dod gamn annoying.

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and I will probably leave.

Hate that shit.

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Eh... it's an okay idea. I think it'll limit our freedom, but I do see where you're getting at. I'm sure most people will eventually choose only games that they actually want to play. I like freedom ^~^

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It would limit freedom only for ONE TYPE of giveaways. You can still enter as many as you want overall.

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That's basically forcing people to contribute for contribution giveaways (or if you put it in a whole nother section, I don't think many people would even bother with that).

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I don't enter anything anyway....useless if you ask me either way

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If users could only pick 5 giveaways out of 50, surely there wouldn't be 1000 entries in each giveaway. People would have to pick the ones they like best.

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Not necessarily because the limit might have an impact on what giveaway you enter. For instance you might want to enter 5 giveways right away or wait and keep 2 entries to try later to see if there are new ones with better odds, or better games, etc.

Currently, points are regenerating so fast that you can enter everything that is about to end and keep entering as the points refill. If there was a daily limit, I think people would pick more carefully.

Keep in mind this wouldn't be a limit on all public giveaways. Just on giveaways that have been "flagged" with this, instead of "Contributor 10.00" for instance. I think this could increase the odds to win smaller/less popular games since most people focus on AAA titles. Or make it more fun/strategic maybe.

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"Currently, points are regenerating so fast that you can enter everything that is about to end and keep entering as the points refill. If there was a daily limit, I think people would pick more carefully."
solution B - bundle games do not contribute to increase points.

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5 entries a day and you still think ppl will visit the site more than once a day? what for? sorry but a forum is not enough reason to visit steamgifts more than once if you can´t try your luck.
Also would make the point system pretty much useless. thoghts?

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5 entries ONLY FOR A SPECIFIC CATEGORY OF GIVEAWAYS

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and what categories there would be?

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I open Steamgifts like every hour.

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Just NO

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Every day people post suggestions that are really thinly veiled attempts at changing the rules in a way that they think increases their own chance of winning.

The system is good how it is. Yeah, it's hard to win a public giveaway. You think free games should come easy?

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I know someone will make a Suggestion thread saying:

Suggestion: No more Suggestions

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I think I saw that one before...or was it one of those steam summer sale predictions that said no more summer sale predictions...

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It would be a specific pool of giveaways limited to 5 entries ON TOP of all the others. You can still enter all public/contributor/private/etc. + only 5 of a new type of giveaway.

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+1

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NO!

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Ok. Small example. I really wanted to win Rome: Total War (and I did apparently) so for some time I entered only giveaways with Rome: Total War. Did I had spare points? No. Did I got enough points to enter all available Rome giveaways? No. Yep, I was lucky enough to win, but y'know it could have take monthes.

So, I think your suggestion is too raw not to say useless.

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I wish there was a forum rule that dis-allows "increasing the odds" topics.

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Ah great another one of these, people hungry for more wins....

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That doesnt increase the odds anyhow, the only thing that would change is that people would enter only for games they actually want. Not a bad idea overall, however I prefer the currently working system.

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I think it might increase the odds for the smaller games since everyone would probably focus on the big AAA titles. It would make an interesting experiment IMO.

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You have a point, that may balanse the entries.

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NO!

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Do not want.

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Site still needs the traffic, don't it?

The system is fine as it is, don't change it, add to it.

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It would only affect a SPECIFIC CATEGORY of giveaway. Not all of them.

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That relates in no way to what I said.

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I assumed you thought the limit would push people to visit the site only once or twice a day.

What did you mean then?

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The focus was more on the "dont change something that isn't wrong, add to it", but I assumed traffic was what keeps the site running, and reducing it at all is a crime against it :D

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That wouldn't break any existing feature. That would be an addition. Like, a "strategic giveaway" where you can only pick 5 every day. Are you gonna pick Rome which has only 80 entries right now or are you going to save your entry for later, hoping that Skyrim is going to come up?

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This goes to my TOP 3 list of bad suggestions, congratulations.

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Why is that?

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It should be pretty obvious. It's a bad suggestion.

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Great debating skills!

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Why'd you expect from handsome jack?

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It's another limitation system on top of a limitation system on top of a limitation system. It makes no sense. You want to reduce the number of people entering giveaways? Further reduce the point generation. There's no point in overcomplicating things.

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Imagine that the game you really want goes on sale and suddenly you notice you don't have money for it. Sale = lots of giveaways. So, since you really want the game you enter as many giveaways as your points let you. And now apply your rule to it and suddenly instead of entering let's say 20 giveaways you can only enter 5 of your choice.

Now please explain how can this give you better chances of getting the game you want?

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You can only pick 5, but everyone else can only pick 5 too. That means less people entering all giveaways. If there are 20 giveaways for this specific game, you would pick the ones the least amount of users entered.

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You should be aware of the fact that in public giveaways the rule "enter the one with least entries" doesn't work. I used to enter every single Fortix giveaway out there (even if there was like 30 or so but hell, it's 1 point and it's the "must win" here) and I wonder why would I get so many points if most of the games I enter are 15$ and less

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The giveaways you enter have no effect on point generation. Points are distributed to the community when people create giveaways.

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I guess you didn't get me here. I mean why would I have point limit at 300 if I could only spend 5*20 (+private/group) daily? Besides, it would be easier just to lower the max amount of points we can get to force users to use them wisely

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It doesn't have to be with public giveaways, it could be a new category. An option like contributor, private, etc.

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That would be worse. Contributor/private/group already serves to cut down entries, no point in cutting them down further. Might as well suggesting an entry limit for every giveaway while youre at it. Make every giveaway limited to 50 entries and people can only enter 1 giveaway a day.

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No, no and no.

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I feel confident that I can speak for everyone in this situation.

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Nope nope & nope

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Yes from me

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Closed 1 decade ago by Novaflare.