Old games listed on bundle list - Will they ever come off?

Once you go bundle, you never go back.

No.

Yes.

The general argument against it (from what I've seen in other similar threads) is that people will hoard stuff to give away after it gets de-bundled. But I don't see anything wrong with that, if they're willing to wait 2+ years.

I'd say make it a 24 months without appearing in bundles or being above 95% off (price error or otherwise), and it should come off the bundle list. If it appears in a bundle/has a 95%+ sale, the timer gets reset to 24 months.

I have a possible solution. Bundles are keys only. When selecting a bundled game, SG can check your steam inventory for the game, which will prove it's not from a bundle. There could then be a message displayed to the winner saying that they should be getting a steam gift copy of the game and not a key. It should say to report the user if they give a key.

Games keep cycling back onto bundles, even really old ones that haven't been bundled for a long time.

It would be a full time job to maintain an accurate list of all that.

A cooldown period should be awesome, and the reason for that is because noone will want to give out a former bundle game because of that crap CV. Too bad it can't be implemented because if you remove the bundle status to Metro 2033 for example, those who gave away will get a full value.

It sucks that many great games are bundled forever, but consider the thing - if you say "the games from that bundle will be removed from list after X months" ppl who want to farm CV will just buy shitloads of this bundleand sit on them. look how long ago Metro 2033 were given free - I still see ppl offering these keys in trades, and if they could give GAs on SG I'm pretty sure we would suddenly see at least small flood of GAs for this game.

Conclusion - get rid of CV system. Thanks. ;p

TF2outpost.com can check your inventory and allows you to create new trades only for items that you have. That does not mean that the system could not be abused here - one could always select the same metro 2033 from the inventory, but send 200 free keys to winners...

Better system would be to remove bundled games 3 or 5 years after the last time they have been bundled. But again, some people would wait all that time just to get more CV.

Which brings us to current system - not perfect, but works - people are giving away games even if they are on the bundle list. Problem solved!

I support the 2 year cooldown on games from bundles.

Exploited and free giveaway games should remain on list permanently.

BRING BACK METRO 2033!!!!!

Unfortunately, time means in two years bundlers can get lots of CV from old bundles.
Probably best idea - if normal/sale price of game becomes smaller than bundle price/number of games in bundle. There would be no point in buying lots to keep them for few years, because in the moment of de-bundling they become automatically cheaper than what you pain then.

Of course, that means most games wouldn't get debundled, but you can either let bundlers get CV or allow some great games get some shine again.

Other great idea - delete CV from bundled games or set it to $1 instead.

Ps.: Is Broken Age (that Double Fine new game that was in Humble Bundle as preorder) a bundled game?

here was a thread regarding the other side of the coin, but the OP noticed that hes wrong and closed.

Taking games off the bundle list would require SteamGifts to work differently. Currently the CV of a game is determined by the current value of the game. If a game drops in price, so does the CV. Similarly if the price of a game becomes higher, the CV goes up. Taking a game out of the bundle list will up its contribution value for everyone, regardless of when they gave it away, and that would negate the purpose of the bundle list. That's why it won't happen.

I think yes, because a lot of games even being on bundle are still considered very good games, and these game probably will never appear in bundles again specially if the game is not indie, games like killing Floor, Alan Wake, Red Orchestra, Serious Sam 3, etc, these game are great but once they go in a bundle, ppl rarely will giveaway them if they didn't bought through bundle, even if game is on good sale they won't because of no getting CV, so after some time would be great if they won't be bundled. And not all ppl will stay a long period of time here just to get CV in future, they will be bored before.

Some indies didn't appeared on bundle for a long time too, for example Super Meat Boy.

I'll never understand why certain giveaway groups won't allow bundle games to be given away. Especially since so many of them are fucking great.
Oh well, whatever. Their loss.

As for removing them from the bundle list, I couldn't care less. Since I don't deal with groups that ban bundled games, I don't have an issue either way. And I don't care about CV.

I remember was going to comment here but didn't.

It's a nice thought. The problem is, many people have hoarded bundles still. (I myself have a few older ones, though I only have like 2 of them.)

There are people who still have them still. Doing this 2 year cool down brings up many questions.

• What about people who gave it a week before/couple days before the cool down? I'm sure many wouldn't be happy to find out that their giveaway isn't worth anything because they gave a week earlier. (Though the same thing happens to people who give a game and that same week it gets bundle.)
• What about the people who stocked up and waited for this moment(or something like this). I mean sure it would only be a small percent. But abusing the system is still abusing.
• If this rule does goes into effect, people might stock up and wait two years for when it becomes a nonbundle game. I know it sounds crazy and stupid to stock up and wait two years. But it would happen, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a semi-common thing.

But I guess this solution is better than nothing. The bundle list is getting quite large.

It's a dilemma.

On one hand, I don't see a real reason bundle games should EVER come off the list. If they did, people would have reason to start hoarding bundle keys until the time expired. I don't want that. People like that tend to go for exploits/mass-buys, throwing off the averages and kind of ruining things for the game devs. Nobody wants devs going broke so they can't make us MORE GAMES.

On the other hand, I might give away more copies of Blocks That Matter if it weren't on the bundle list, because I freaking love that game. But I'm poor, so I don't often give away games anyway, so that might not happen either, haha.

It's a dilemma...

I've lost the "wall of text" spell I was casting, so I will just give you short version:
cv and some group opinions/rules are overrated. give away what your heart tells you to give, just don't go against the rules.