"You people who are giving her sympathy and pity should all be ashamed of yourselves. Instead of giving pity to a girl who already commited suicide, how about you talk to that lonely kid at lunch? Yea, the one who sits all alone in the corner. But no, you'd rather sit with your friends and then come home and get on facebook and say shit like 'Oh, how come no one helped poor Amanda, she's so pretty, why did she have to die'."
I feel that this is true.
Give your feelings, sympathy, empathy, w/e, to the people who deserve it NOW, not people who are already off of this planet.
EDIT: Do you agree with this or do you think this is stupid?
This post is kinda confusing, but I hadn't heard about it until now, thanks.
EDIT2: Wow, something good actually came from 4chan.
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I know that's referencing something but I can't recall what :/
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Any references to back up the 7 points? Any further reading you can suggest because I am too lazy to google?
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Err, I know nothing of this story. It is still sad that someone was that messed up that they did such a thing. She is someone's child after all. Sure, she may not have been as sympathetic (if the OP is correct) as some kids who commit suicide who did nothing to provoke anyone, but were systematically bullied pretty much every day for a long period of time. But I find suicide in itself disturbing. It causes so much pain and distress for those left behind and lasting scars for life.
But I agree, it would be good if there would be more success stories told. Those who got over it, or who survived bullying and managed to rebuilt themselves in general (self esteem, confidence, daring to be yourself, etc.).
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I doubt that it caused much distress or pain to her parents. They would have done something if they gave a shit for her.
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I wish I could say I give a fuck about the dead slut or the retards who bullied her. Nudes would have made it interesting though.
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Never asked for them, all I said was it'd have made this interesting.
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You mentioned them, close enough. Way to fail at making yourself sound like less of a child predator.
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I would like to think catching the guy who blackmailed her is easier then stopping world hunger. imo the fact that people are dying all over the world has nothing to do with this case if the Internets anonymity being abused by a predator.. which may not seem like a big deal to you but its happening more and more. And believe me when something likes this remotely happens to someone you know then you will care.
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What i dont get is why all you people are going on about it being her own fault. And she is just one person in a million to die today Some Guy Blackmailed and groomed an underage girl into getting naked on webcam and then spread her pics around, how are you not irate by the fact that this guy is still free to do it again to more "dumb sluts" who could be your sister/daughter/cousin.
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Because at the end of the day it was still her fault, yes, the guy did come on there and ask her to flash (not get naked) and she did on her own will. He didn't have a gun to her head or held her hostage and make her flash, she did so on her own will, she could have easily just turned off the webcam and it would have been over with.
She was also sleeping with a boy who she knew had a girlfriend already.
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I know you didn't write that, but you seem to agree with it, so :
"She was 15 years old when she flashed those guys.
She did it out of her own free will. She CHOSE to do it."
People, especially kids, make mistakes, your point ?
"She already flirted with many guys before."
your point ?
"She got 'beat' up at school not because of the picture, but because she slept with another girl's boyfriend."
The boyfriend is the one who cheated, and nobody should be beat up over it anyway
"The guy 'bullied' her once only about 6-8 months after she flashed online. Not multiple times over 2 years."
only once, oh then, he's a nice guy, right ?
"She was known to have slept with multiple men and to sell herself out."
your point ?
"Her home life wasn't the best. (family troubles)"
your point ?
So your "point" seems to be, she's a slut, she deserve it. Go fight for the taliban, you seem to agree with their moral values.
She was a young girl trying to fit in and find love, she made some mistakes. Each time she moved, she had the chance to find real motherfuckers. She tried to overcome this, she courageously told her story to the world to try to fight bullying, in spite of judgmental idiots like you. She tried to help other victims.
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Excuse ? what did she do wrong ?
Show her boobs on a webcam ? that's not very smart, but that is not wrong, what is wrong is society giving her hard time for it.
Being seduced by a guy that just wanted to have sex with her ? that's not very smart, but not wrong. She was vulnerable, being rejected by everyone, a guy comes up and pretend to like her. How dare she fall to the hope of finding love ?
Clearly I defend her because she's female, ok let's replace her by a guy. He showed his ass on a webcam. He slept with a girl that was flirting with him in spite of the fact the girl has a boyfriend. No, sorry, no difference, the only thing I see is that your a misogynistic bastard.
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On your last sentence: I'm sure that her suicide will motivate other victims of bullying. Like suicide is the ultimate solution to everything. "Nobody likes you? You have no friends? Bullied on a daily basis? The solution you are looking for is here: SUICIDE! Why suicide? All your problems will be over and everyone will feel sorry for you and say how much they'd have wanted to help while you were still alive."
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Agreed, kids make mistakes. She shouldn't of been tormented like that just for a stupid mistake. OP really shouldn't be judging her if he was stuffed in trash cans as a child, It was your own fault... Why not stand up for yourself? Don't take your anger out on some girl just because people don't feel sorry for you.
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Oh wow, you can't believe how much those people who mention Africa everytime are pissing me off. "Oh I donated 5$ via Mobile, 1 family will have food for a month now" "Oh don't throw that food away, people in Africa don't have any"
Most of us do not live in Africa, we have food we can throw away and throw away out money on whatever we want to. And instead of fucking beeing proud of yourself because you donated 5$ (which prob. wont even arrive there in first place) you should load a plane with food, fly over there, and hand out the stuff all by yourself, and ONLY THEN you can be proud of yourself.
People dying every second in Africa? Who gives a fuck, people die in Europe, USA etc. every second as well and noone cares.
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http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/i-psychopath/
I recommend you watch this documentary it will help you understand what a true sociopath/psychopath. I see a lot of these kind of people on the internet. Were the are more free to be who they are not constrained by social norms. 4Chan is like their mecca i guess.
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Everyone should know about the girl's story by now, right? She killed herself.
Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vOHXGNx-E7E
Being one of those people who fortunately (because it's over) got passed through the bullying stuff as a kid, for many years, 4chan's statement almost made me cry. This deserves a standing ovation.
"Amanda Todd
Ok, well let's just get this all out of the way so you all can stop your bitching about this dead girl. A lot of what is posted in her video and on her page is fabricated to make her look like she was an angel. Think again.
You people who are giving her sympathy and pity should all be ashamed of yourselves. Instead of giving pity to a girl who already commited suicide, how about you talk to that lonely kid at lunch? Yea, the one who sits all alone in the corner. But no, you'd rather sit with your friends and then come home and get on facebook and say shit like 'Oh, how come no one helped poor Amanda, she's so pretty, why did she have to die'. FUCK YOU! Go crawl back in your shell of safety while the ones who really need help are only an arms length away.
We should be talking about the ones who were bullied and managed to survive through it all. The success stories. Because that's what gives kids hope, the ones who know what it's like to be in their shoes. The ones who have walked that road before and came out ok.
What kind of message does it send to impressionable teens that if you go ahead and kill yourself that you will get thousands of likes on a facebook page and everyone will feel sorry for you and give you attention? If you have any self respect for the future then you'd stop and think about where your morals are. If you're too confused with your emotions and common sense, then just get off the internet entirely. No one wants to read your idiotic comments and your emotion filled rage tantrums.
tl;dr Stop giving pity to a dead girl. Give it to the ones who deserve it."
Edit:
After much discussion I wanted to post my point of view on this here.
The point is that there is no point (hah) in giving pity to a dead girl that actually DID something for those things to happen to her. It was her fault that she flashed to the guy, it's her fault that she slept with the other guy, knowing that he had a girlfriend beforehand.
The point is we should instead TRY to prevent these things from happening other than feeling sorry for them when they are already done. And, sometimes, when kids are already dead.
You guys remember about the Columbine Massacre? I'm sure you do. Watch some documentaries to know that Eric and Dylan planned the whole thing during a year and right under their noses, and believe me, they asked for help in the way they could. Many of the texts they wrote during English Classes were in fact a cry for help.
You know what they did to those boys?
NOTHING.
You know who did they blame?
Marilyn Manson.
Why?
Because it was easier to blame him other than themselves. And the best of all, you know what Manson said?
13 seconds to shove the fucking truth to their faces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_WuQdg-sY
I've been there. I've been in this situation where I was constantly bullied for over 3 years and for no reason. I didn't piss off ANYONE, i haven't done ANYTHING. But still I was put into trashcans almost everyday and being laugh at it.
Most of tuesday's and thursday's afternoons after classes I HAD TO RUN the fuck away from school until they got to me because those "were my days". I would show up with bruises at home and try to hide them as best as I could.
Until college, when I went to a new school and met no one depression came to me and I tried suicide, until one teacher on a class make me read a text I made, came to me after class to talk, and told me to go see a psychologist and prepared everything for me.
THIS is how things must be done in order to prevent tragedies, and I'm sure more kids like me will always exist, and they are the ones we should care for, not the ones who are already dead, from those we only have one thing to do: learn with their situation, nothing else.
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