Everyone should know about the girl's story by now, right? She killed herself.

Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vOHXGNx-E7E

Being one of those people who fortunately (because it's over) got passed through the bullying stuff as a kid, for many years, 4chan's statement almost made me cry. This deserves a standing ovation.

"Amanda Todd

Ok, well let's just get this all out of the way so you all can stop your bitching about this dead girl. A lot of what is posted in her video and on her page is fabricated to make her look like she was an angel. Think again.

  1. She was 15 years old when she flashed those guys.
  2. She did it out of her own free will. She CHOSE to do it.
  3. She already flirted with many guys before.
  4. She got 'beat' up at school not because of the picture, but because she slept with another girl's boyfriend. (refer to #1)
  5. The guy 'bullied' her once only about 6-8 months after she flashed online. Not multiple times over 2 years.
  6. She was known to have slept with multiple men and to sell herself out.
  7. Her home life wasn't the best. (family troubles)

You people who are giving her sympathy and pity should all be ashamed of yourselves. Instead of giving pity to a girl who already commited suicide, how about you talk to that lonely kid at lunch? Yea, the one who sits all alone in the corner. But no, you'd rather sit with your friends and then come home and get on facebook and say shit like 'Oh, how come no one helped poor Amanda, she's so pretty, why did she have to die'. FUCK YOU! Go crawl back in your shell of safety while the ones who really need help are only an arms length away.

We should be talking about the ones who were bullied and managed to survive through it all. The success stories. Because that's what gives kids hope, the ones who know what it's like to be in their shoes. The ones who have walked that road before and came out ok.

What kind of message does it send to impressionable teens that if you go ahead and kill yourself that you will get thousands of likes on a facebook page and everyone will feel sorry for you and give you attention? If you have any self respect for the future then you'd stop and think about where your morals are. If you're too confused with your emotions and common sense, then just get off the internet entirely. No one wants to read your idiotic comments and your emotion filled rage tantrums.

tl;dr Stop giving pity to a dead girl. Give it to the ones who deserve it."

Edit:

After much discussion I wanted to post my point of view on this here.

The point is that there is no point (hah) in giving pity to a dead girl that actually DID something for those things to happen to her. It was her fault that she flashed to the guy, it's her fault that she slept with the other guy, knowing that he had a girlfriend beforehand.

The point is we should instead TRY to prevent these things from happening other than feeling sorry for them when they are already done. And, sometimes, when kids are already dead.

You guys remember about the Columbine Massacre? I'm sure you do. Watch some documentaries to know that Eric and Dylan planned the whole thing during a year and right under their noses, and believe me, they asked for help in the way they could. Many of the texts they wrote during English Classes were in fact a cry for help.

You know what they did to those boys?

NOTHING.

You know who did they blame?

Marilyn Manson.

Why?

Because it was easier to blame him other than themselves. And the best of all, you know what Manson said?

13 seconds to shove the fucking truth to their faces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_WuQdg-sY

I've been there. I've been in this situation where I was constantly bullied for over 3 years and for no reason. I didn't piss off ANYONE, i haven't done ANYTHING. But still I was put into trashcans almost everyday and being laugh at it.

Most of tuesday's and thursday's afternoons after classes I HAD TO RUN the fuck away from school until they got to me because those "were my days". I would show up with bruises at home and try to hide them as best as I could.

Until college, when I went to a new school and met no one depression came to me and I tried suicide, until one teacher on a class make me read a text I made, came to me after class to talk, and told me to go see a psychologist and prepared everything for me.

THIS is how things must be done in order to prevent tragedies, and I'm sure more kids like me will always exist, and they are the ones we should care for, not the ones who are already dead, from those we only have one thing to do: learn with their situation, nothing else.

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Yea whoever postet this is basically right. It's her fault that her boobs got on the net, it's her fault that she decided to sleep with another girl's boyfriend. And all the drug and cutting shit, she chose this by her own.
I can't really feel pity for her or anything, for noone who does this kind of shit. I mean I saw many people getting out of this beeing bullied crap, and some even became friends with their bully's. And to the blackmail guy, he posted her tits twice on the net and they did not get him? It's not like it is hard to get someone's adress on the inet you know... .

Why should we care about this girl now? She suicide's, takes drugs, acts like a whore, cut's herself, and instead of fixing her problems she rides herself more and more into deep shit. For me this person doesn't look like she was a good person, nor she was tough.

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In my country they have a thing called the child protection agency. They get a lot of money and put a lot of man hours into looking after children under the age of 18 who have been screwed up and screwed with in the years when their morality and emotional/mental states are still being formed. They get this money because the general prevailing view is its not that fault of the child as they do not yet have the mental/emotional capabilities to be found at fault. But ofc you come from everyone's a sociopath internet land so fuc*k the bitch shes a slut she deserved to die....

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lol, she was 15 dude and it's not like she actually commited any crimes.

rofl, so acting "like a whore", "cutting up" and "taking drugs" makes you a bad person? you become undeserving of pitty and help?? when you are just 15?? LMFAO

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No, she deserved pitty and help, when she was alive.

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lol if anything, your 7 points makes it all the more tragic. If it's true, she had obviously many problems and eventually she was driven past the edge, by something or someone.

Your point about integrating loner kids is very valid, though.

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"No one wants to read your idiotic comments and your emotion filled rage tantrums"

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Yeah, I found that line a little more than slightly ironic too :P

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She got 99 problems but her life ain't one.(no more)

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The world's got lots of problem and you're one of them, congrats.

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[ ] Did get the joke
[x] Doesn't know shit

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I don't give a shit if it's a joke, it's distasteful either way. And this and his other comments show that he's part of the problem. Making fun of desperate and vulnerable people is wrong and not funny.

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welcome to the world!, people suck and don't give a shit until something happen to them... btw you achived your "high moral" card of the day!.

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I lol'd.

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ITT: OP sounds like a misogynistic asshole by seemingly agreeing with a misogynistic asshole on 4chan.

She flashed her tits on the internet, so now she deserves everything that happened to her? I agree with the later message of helping other kids, but it's pure bullshit from the author who has no intention of doing it. Ultimately, she told her story on YouTube to try and help other kids and all she got was terrible comments from the scum of the internet.

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you want "nice" comments.... You can't whiteknight here... it's a battle you already lost. This is the Internet, where everybody is safe behind a monitor....

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I'm not white knighting, I'm just saying this changes nothing. Anonymous assholes on the internet will always see what they can get away with. Nothing less than the public shaming of every last one of them will change anything.

I guess the thing to get out of all of this, for everyone, is that actions have consequences. You treat someone like shit and they just might wind up killing themself. Some of the people who mocked this girl will change their ways, but the vast majority will be like the author from 4chan and justify their actions with faulty logic.

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Because the author doesn't/didn't have those problems... It's WAY easier to talk about other peoples problems... especially if they are dead... And the Internet/Anonymous assholes take this to a whole new level...

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except more and more people are getting arrested in the UK for trolling on facebook/twitter on pages of dead solders or critical injured people like the Fabrice Muamba trolling case.

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"Fabrice Muamba Trolling Case" Imagine that on the front page of a police folder. XD

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prob was

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Who flashed what? Where is the hidden giveaway?

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Sorry I already took skyrim

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Not fair!

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You deflowered the Skyrim in the thread? Ewwwww.

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You made me laugh so hard... I spit my Ice Tea....

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"If you're too confused with your emotions and common sense, then just get off the internet entirely. No one wants to read your idiotic comments and your emotion filled rage tantrums."

All the irony makes my head spin, especially that last sentence. I'll just say this: There is an organization for helping out LBGT youths who are being bullied. This foundation is now extremely successful and has inspired tens of thousands of stories from LBGT and straight people to encourage teens who are LBGT to get through bullying. How did it start? It started because a teenager took his life from being bullied because he was gay. The 4chan poster claims that talking about Amanda won't help and is presumptuous enough to say that just because people go onto Facebook and talk about it doesn't mean they're not helping bullied kids that are still alive. Do you think this organization (It Gets Better Project, btw) would have been created if thousands of people hadn't been talking about the kid who took his life? If it made no impact on people on a social level? Probably not, organizations like this rely on social networking.

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Sounds like one of those things where a lot of the pain was avoidable.

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Suicide is the coward's way out. Life goes on, nut up or shut up.

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said the 16 yo from the comfort of his chair and daddy-bought PC, home, food, education and clothes.

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No, you are quite wrong on all accounts.

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Criticized by the person who's amassed nearly 300 steam games in the one year he's had it. Who's pampered?

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"there is no point (hah) in giving pity to a dead girl that actually DID something for those things to happen to her. It was her fault that she flashed to the guy, it's her fault that she slept with the other guy, knowing that he had a girlfriend beforehand."

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Yeah, anyone with mental/psychological problem is entirely to blame for what they do, it's their fault they were raised the way they were, it's their fault they have chemical imbalances...totally reasonable analysis. As for the rest of your post again, you're being way to presumptuous.

There are hundreds of problems facing humanity beyond just kids getting bullied in school. Any one person can't be aware of all these things and helping people facing each and every problem there is within society. Unless there is some more personal reason, you aren't going to wake up every morning and think about how to stop bullying, neither are voters, politicians, activists, teachers, etc. Buzz like this is good for facing the problems (even though what created the buzz is obviously not good), because it gets people as a whole on the same page at the same time so things can get done to address it (as I highlighted in my other post).

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I think if she hadn't showed her boobs to the internet, this wouldn't have happened.

Moral of the story: Don't show your tits!

She deserved to die

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Show boobs = Death and show tits or gtfo

Internet logic

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The point is that she tried to prevent this from happening by posting this video. Why do you think she posted this video ? Because not enough people made fun of her misery ? That video is very well done, and very courageous. And I'm sure it will help other people seeing they are not alone, and that a lot of people sympathize with her. On the other hand, sick misogynistic comments are not helping.

So what do you think you would have done, when you where close to suicide, if a pretty girl pretended to love you and wanted to have sex with you ? (oh yes she has a boyfriend, but it seems she likes you more)

What the fuck is wrong with you people ? After seeing this video, what you should talk about is not that she flashed her boobs and had sex with a guy (except if you are a taliban). What you should talk about is why everywhere she went, she found stupid kids making fun of her misery, that is sick. And seeing the comments, it's even worse than I thought...

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I've never heard of this prior to just now.. I'm trying to watch the video but it's a bit slow. I've read most of the comments here, and I want to ask: How can anyone say their parents didn't love her? Does she mention something in the video that they don't? Cause from what I've seen it seems like they did if they've been willing to change schools up every time something happens...? No?

One thing I have to say I agree with from all of this is: "We should be talking about the ones who were bullied and managed to survive through it all. The success stories. Because that's what gives kids hope, the ones who know what it's like to be in their shoes. The ones who have walked that road before and came out ok."

Because if anyone wants to help, moping and focusing on what has already pasted and what cannot be undone will not do anything. :\ Help by talking to the bullied, etc. And as a person who was sometimes alone at lunch, I wasn't bullied. Don't assume everyone who is alone at lunch has been. BUT! I was alone in those cases because I was new to the school. Being military I moved all the time, so never had a stable place blah blah blah point is: it would be helpful to talk to people sitting alone; but would make a rather awkward situation if you assume that they're bullied because they're alone and that ends up being something you talk about lol.

Also: it is both HER and the guys fault. With the cheating. She says he told her that his gf was on vacation and to come over; it is her fault she pursued it further, but he is not to be free of blame. People/kids can be terribly stupid when they are "in love" or think people "love" them; doesn't mean she deserves being beaten up.

If she didn't want to deal with the drama of her last school and all those people from the past, why on earth would she still have kept her facebook? That's just stupid on her part, I'm sorry. If you want to move on, block and delete them all. Or disable your facebook. They were talking crap about you after that (which I'm sure ALL the ones who were talking crap were just friends of the girl who's bf she was cheating with.. or however you word that) what the hell makes you think they're going to stop later? I know other people aren't just going to make fun of her for that. I don't care what anyone says; there are people out there who WOULDN'T be doing that, who would have tried to be supportive. People "follow" because she's still on facebook with them, because people are asshats who have nothing better to do with their time. She should have just gotten off facebook or deleted/blocked them.

I just finished the video. I still don't see where anyone can say that her parents don't love her; someone explain this to me? Her parents changed her schools, moved her to a different city, etc..

I think there's no point in blaming anyone on this all; it's done and over with. There's plenty of "should've, could've, would'ves" and plenty of "didn'ts." People are harsh, your actions make you who you are, people have nothing better to do than bully, c'est la vie. You have to look for the good parts in it all. Which can seem daunting, and impossible, but it is there. And we can make it easier to find by helping those in need and those who will hide and deny their need for help.

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tl;dr

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tits or gtfo

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ehhh im getting tired of this amanda conversation its just getting dumb now stop posting about it she died because of past actions moving on

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so... since she was born into a bad family and made some bad decisions when she was hardly even a teenager, then we are supposed to believe that she was deserving of death? maybe you should talk to that psychologist of yours about "the just world victimization delusion." now, i only have 3 degrees in the mental health fields (psychology, social work, and sociology,) but it looks to me like you may have an easier time dealing with loss, failure, and self- esteem issues if you brought this up to your psychologist. if your point was to tell people to make a difference instead of just sitting around on the internet feeling bad then... why are you telling that to people on the internet? go be a mentor or volunteer for big brother/ big sister programs, they are great fun and you can make a big impact on someone.

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are you talking to op or..???

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I was always wondering what happen with peoples outside, did school let you get bullied by month, let alone years? I live in Asia, and bullying is really really rare, and school won't let it happen. The peoples who bullying others probably get drop out from school if they found out. I mean does US school didn't care when one of their student get bullied constantly?

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Schadenfreude.
A german word, that describes my feelings when I read this. Literally translated it says harmjoy, but more importantly it means experiencing a sense of pleasure from someone else's misfortune, or in this case shit life and death.

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"I've been there. I've been in this situation where I was constantly bullied for over 3 years and for no reason. I didn't piss off ANYONE, i haven't done ANYTHING. But still I was put into trashcans almost everyday and being laugh at it."

OP you do realise that to them you actually have done something, you have existed and stepped into their lives.

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There's no such thing as an offensive fact. Only easily offended people

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omg i can't believe you just said that!

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Totally, he should go to prison and get raped to death with a piece of jagged glass for being so offensive!

^Shit like that always cracks me up.

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The whole story and its public aftermath are dispiriting examples of avoidable tragedy and some of the less endearing aspects of human nature.

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tl:dr random suicide victims make random people QQ much on the internet.

No giveaway inside, moving along.

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You have reminded me why I don't waste my time on sites like 4chan and Reddit.

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