I went a whole 11 months without contributing(and winning) and only have had people bring my zero-contributions up once. This was when I was saying 1 word "Thx" comments don't mean anything to me...
So whatever your suggesting it must be directly related to contributor status.
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Well when you look at it. Most people who don't contribute are just leeches and ungrateful. I'm not one of those but then again I've never and will never claim the site to be unfair or whatever the hell else those people are complaining about. You can win games, for free with no effort. Shut up. No one is making you give away stuff if you don't want to or cant.
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"Most people who don't contribute are just leeches and ungrateful"
No they're not. How can you assume such a thing about a broad population?
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Yeah, he's also assuming the complaints speak up against how the site functions. You know, suggestions can actually be productive. People should try to read what's actually being said by people instead of ASSUME a whole lot then fly off the handle for no reason.
Funnily he's proving the OP's point. Great example.
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Indeed. I bet a lot of this site's features were added because people complained about their absence. In fact, I know that's happened before.
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I think, that in SOME cases "you are only suggesting X because you haven't contributed" is PERFECTLY valid.
Still, not in all of them, and I, personally, wasn't attacked because of my lack of contribution to giveaways even once. (well, maybe the time has come...)
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You have no giveaways and I value your opinion. It may or may not be because I agree with it, but it also states how absurd it is that sometimes people say,
"you are only suggesting X because you haven't contributed"
and then they're the mean ones, when it's a perfectly valid argument.
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Valid Point but at the same time Many Contributors(Including myself(I know Im also not the biggest contributor)) Feel discouraged to give again when people make forum threads complaining about not winning anything or complaining that contributor giveaways are bad cos people who dont contribute cant enter etc, etc . So there is often no respect from EITHER parties not just ONE . Very Good point made though !
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I'm onboard with you. as a small contributor, that feeling is what moved me to making group only and contributor only giveaways. No one complains that group and contributor giveaways need to be easier to win, its only the public giveaways that people complain about, so far.
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True that but I have often seen people in this specific category complaining that there SHOULDN'T be Group and Private Giveaways and Since then I started making much more group giveaways cos I didnt want to give to the people who complained . I dont know maybe Its just my way of thinking but when someone complains about free stuff I dont think they deserve to get it . Thats just my opinion and I mean no harm ,
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I've often seen you strawmanning that point to people arguing entirely unrelated things, just to point out.
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Weasel word warning: As who makes it out to be?
I don't remember anyone treating the existence of contributor giveaways as 'a gigantic problem.' Not saying they don't exist, but perhaps it's equally legitimate to say that the 'problem' of people wanting to remove contributor giveaways is also 'not really a gigantic problem as some make it out to be.'
honestly, the only major problem I remember is back when they were new and unfilterable, there were a lot of threads from people, including myself, who felt like they were being unfairly pushed in our face when we're ineligible. Thankfully, that's a thing of the past.
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I had a feeling that people would expect that, I was quite tempted to find someone who hadn't given away anything and ask them to post it for me, just to see what the reaction would be. I have a feeling it wouldn't be the same as I received now.
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Honestly, what I hate are the people who tell others what they can spare. Threads on the matter always have a few people making some variation of the "you can spare a coffee at mcdonalds once a week to give away games" argument, and I find it rather hostile.
You're not privvy to anyone else's finances. I don't care if it's "just a few bucks", outright demanding that specific people give away games is, in my book, explicitly begging and telling other people what they can or can't afford is entirely baseless.
Edit: Oh yeah, and the phrase OP is looking for is genetic fallacy.
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BELLSPROUT i think you wrong, usaly ppl who buys/pay the game are much more serious then other,ill give you an example:
in counter 1.6 (the cracked version) much more noobs, every one spaming and yelling each other,however in the steam version, the ppl
barly talk, and if they to its about the game, no spam or anything.
ppl who didnt waste money, dont care what will happent to they account, so they dont care to get banned.
so yea ppl who didnt contributor and not gonna, they opinion is usaly not important.
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Quite often there are topics appearing asking about change with regards to sgifts, these threads are also often made by people who have not contributed via giveaways. During these topics, it is far too common for someone to say something along the lines of "I just checked your profile, not surprised to see you haven't made any giveaways" or "You're only suggesting X because you haven't contributed".
These are not valid points to be making and it's becoming quite annoying to see this. Just because someone hasn't contributed to the website does not mean they are not capable of contributing in terms of forum comments and suggestions. If you do not like a suggestion, then it is up to you to argue your counter point not make remarks based on their contributor status.
So please, stop mentioning contributor status as a means of stopping someone from giving an opinion.
PS: Suggestions are going to be repeated often, due to the fact that there isn't a "common suggestions" topic or something along those lines. There is no need for hostility if someone has repeated a topic, just direct them to the previous topics on the subject and leave the topic.
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