Capitalization is a waste of time
This thread spurred me to look into the statistics of being attacked by strangers on the street, and I was surprised to find out "In 2010, males experienced violent victimizations by strangers at nearly twice the rate of females (figure 2)."
Did not know that, you would have thought it would be females experience it like 4x as much, but it's not the case (thankfully.) Both rates are declining though.
Also interesting to note, since we hear about "rape culture" 24/7, that " In 2013, college age females had a similar rate of rape and sexual assault regardless of enrollment status (about 4.3 victimizations per 1,000), while the victimization rate for not college-age (ages 12 to 17 and 25 or older) females was 1.4 victimizations per 1,000."
4.3 out of 1000? I know where the 1 in 4 myth came from, but unfortunately a lot of people do not know how that figure was attained, and they get tricked into propagating the false statistics. Very sad.
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If we go by RAINN, 2 out of 3 go unreported. That brings the figure up to ~13 per 1000. Not even in the same ballpark as 1 in 4. My main beef is that the bogus online survey they did just won't die no matter how many times it's debunked. It's officially gone into Big Lie territory (just like the 77 cents to $1 wage gap myth, The Equal Pay Act of 1963 sits alone, forgotten, unGoogled lol.)
This is a good article with some wisdom from RAINN
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You're comparing two different kinds of stats. Per year versus per person.
Directly from RAINN:
1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime.
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The 1 in 4/5 comes from the college age demographic, not lifetime. Link
Looking into that RAINN statistic it's interesting to notice it is based on a two decade old telephone survey. I wonder what the findings would be now, with movements such as MGTOW gaining traction so quickly, men not going to college, not cohabiting/marrying.
"Has anyone, male or female, ever attempted to make you have vaginal, oral, or anal sex against your will, but intercourse or penetration did not occur?"
That is a very, very, very interestingly worded question.
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I understand that statistic comes from a flawed old study. But RAINN currently cites a 2015 study on their site.
Among undergraduate students, 23.1% of females and 5.4% of males experience rape or sexual assault through physical force, violence, or incapacitation.
It looks to be this one. Which I don't think RAINN is citing accurately. And it appears to be data from only one college. But the stats are still bad.
Undergraduate Female Students Experiencing Nonconsensual Penetration or Sexual Touching Involving Physical Force or Incapacitation Since Entering College
Penetration 12.0%
Sexual Touching 20.8%
I find the survey methodology questionable, and the document is very hard to extract exactly what they were asking.
But if you break it down, it's still 9-10% of women in a single school year specificly experiencing "Nonconsensual Penetration Involving Physical Force".
I'm pretty sure that falls under almost anyone's definition of rape.
And yes, it's not 1 in 5, but it's 1 in 10. Which is still absolutely crazy high.
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Ahahahaaaaahhaa how is this still up ahahhahaahaha. Do you realize how profitable this kind of attention is?
ahhahahahah.
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some one wolf called me while i was striping in vagus some ppl have no respect
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Just realized I've never made a giveaway for this thread! Better late than never?
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Bump, since this is an important topic. Creepy adult men have done this to me and my friends since we were in our early teens.
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Because I'm tired of getting catcalled and watching others in the street receive the same treatment, I decided to share some information with everyone in SG hoping that they can stop doing it and/or talk to their friends to make them reconsider their behavior.
Street harassment is unwanted and unwelcomed public attention, most often directed at women, which is demeaning and damaging. Itโs not a private matter but one that should concern everyone.
If you have trouble empathising with strangers, then think about your mother, sister, or girlfriend. Would you enjoy watching people catcalling and telling them nasty things? How do you think they would feel about it?
On an average day I go out twice and I get at least one guaranteed catcall. On weekends or when I go out, for example to a club, it gets worse because groups of people feel more empowered to do so.
A few months ago I was walking with a friend and one guy said things and started to follow us. After a while it ended with me turning around and pepper-spraying his face, then running away in case he could fight back. This is the kind of violence it generates.
We had a rough rest of the day and were shaken up. I didn't enjoy doing that at all, but he had to be stopped. I also like to think the guy didn't enjoy it either.
So in the end, what did he achieve? Nothing.
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OK, I'm gonna clear this up since some people like to assume things just to blame me for defending myself.
For the backward people, this was in june when I wasn't wearing "provocative shorts and t-shirts" clothes. These are the "nice compliments" I got amongst others i don't even want to repeat here and/or I want to forget:
hey girl nice butt
does your friend wanna F with me too?
hey reply bitch
come here lesbos!
GONNA EAT YOUR ASS
Walked one block with that guy which was 1 meter away from us. He wasn't shouting from the other side of the street, he wasn't half a block away, he wasn't sitting in the sidewalk. He was right behind us.
He got warned to leave us alone during the whole 1-block fast-paced walk. I didn't stop to "discuss" because I'm not a 1.9 meters 120kg guy, so I'm not putting my friend and I at risk at 8:30pm in the street.
You read the "You're not alone" thread?
Well, most of the stuff that I shared about me is linked directly to an experience related to this, but I wasn't walking with a friend and there were two guys instead of one following me. You can guess what happened next since I wasn't able to defend myself.
But of course, street harassment is harmless and nothing else can go wrong, nor it can trigger unhappy memories from past experiences.
Think a bit before judging others so quickly assuming they overreact when they feel in danger.~
I know I probably won't convince anyone catcalling to stop by posting this (it doesn't hurt to try), but if your friends or co-workers do it, you can persuade or talk to them and see if they get it. There's nothing worse than being in a group of friends and allowing them to act like idiots.
It's disgusting and demeaning, stop it. You're hurting people with your actions and makes you look like a fool.
โค๏ธ๏ธ FAQ, in case you're gonna post one of these comments I get all the time.
- But some women like to be catcalled!
Yes, there's also men that like to get hit in the face with a hammer. So using the same logic, I should go out and hit all men with a hammer in hopes they enjoy it?
- Don't be so sensitive, ignore it.
No, it reaches a point it can't be ignored. It's not an isolated issue once per month or in certain situations so you can avoid it. It also affects me a lot depending on my mood, so when you feel like crap and you get catcalled, things get worse.
- So you want others to come to your rescue when some stranger catcalls you? That will end up with me getting in a fight!
I'm not asking people to fight for me, just them to stop doing it, spread the word, and discourage people in their group of friends from being disrespectful.
- If you don't want to get catcalled, dress appropriately!
1: Don't blame the victim.
2: I dress as I please. It's my body, not someone else's.
3: It doesn't matter if it's winter and I'm wearing a jacket, or summer with shorts and a t-shirt. Some people will be idiots anyway and say things.
- I bet you like it when a handsome guy catcalls you!
Irrelevant. I expect respect from everyone.
- What about men? They also get harassed!
I'm very aware guys also get harassed by both men and women, but this thread is about girls. Feel free to create another thread for that issue, and I will support it.
- So this is just a misandrist rant!
It's not. If you feel targeted by anything I said, then it's not because you're a man, it's because you actions ressemble what it's said here.
- Meh, it could be worse.
It could be worse, but it SHOULD be better. Also, normalizing this behavior makes it even more painful for victims.
- Women also catcall!
I never said they don't, but for each woman that catcalls me, i get 500 guys. So the issue at hand is the one I shared.
- This thread offends me!
That tells a lot about you. Log off, take your time, and think about it.
- This thread is inappropriate for SG, please close and delete it!
Go tell that to all other threads about awareness, politics, religion, sports, disasters, etc.
๐ Some info and articles:
Stop Street Harassment
Wikipedia definition
Documenting women's stories of street harassment
Why we need to take street harassment seriously
Dutch woman faces down her catcallers by posting selfies with them
๐ Videos:
Au bout de la rue (Court-mรฉtrage) - france
10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman - usa
Woman is filmed walking London's streets for secret documentary - uk
Male actor dresses as woman to experience sexual harassment - egypt
Sons React to Their Moms Getting Catcalled - usa
๐ And some pictures:
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