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I can only hope for good results for you. I am sorry that i don't have any experience to share with you.
I know that it is illogical to try to understand even a drop of your pain. I can only say one thing to you, please live. Live more of your life.
As one of the many people that fought depression, anxiety and panic disorder, i can only tell you that for some of us it gets better.
I know it is not the same boat but please fight more. We only have this miserable life to find someone to love enough to forget our other problems. I hope you can find that one to help you.
Please note that my comment have been made with the best intentions in mind. If by any mean you find that it is not helpful or it pains you i will gladly delete it.

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I am no doctor but with my finger they couldn't give me a guarantee either, and i think as they say how some people could never walk after an accident but still manage to do so, i think each person is different and thus the results.

Probably not the best place to ask here though.

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i am against suicides although I have drape on the topic before. I cannot offer you any medical advise but words of encouragement. NEVER give up. The moment you gave up, you lose hope. Keep going through with your therapy, and keep close look on your improvements and such. Recently there's a Football/Soccer player Santi Cazorla whom had a bacteria "eating" eight centimetres of his ankle tendon. One that not only threatened his career, but also his ability to walk. Today, after 2 years, he returns to play professionally for Spanish Top Division, Villarreal.

Never give up! Warmest wishes and take care of yourself, Cruse

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As someone who isn't very knowledgeable about this sort of thing, I cannot say whether or not is there hope for a full recovery. But I do know that a good deal of people managed to recover from all sorts of terrible things even when doctors gave them very low odds or said it's impossible to recover to the point they eventually recovered to. So I'd say prepare yourself for the worst, but hope for the best and stay optimistic regardless. Less stress and more optimism can help a lot in recovery.

Killing oneself is not as easy as people think and in a lot of cases suicide attempts fail (according to the wikipedia failure rate is 90-95% in most of the attempts that don't involve firearms) and people survive them, unfortunately sometimes with permanent damage. I hope you consider your attempt rash and stupid (especially since it made things even worse for you now) and that you won't consider trying it again (even though now you have more reason to).

Life can be cruel, but people can be very durable both mentally and physically if they want to be and they can get through all sort of shit with the proper attitude and willpower. I think life is worth living, regardless of how shitty it can be. You just need to find things you enjoy and love, find people you love. And don't tell me there aren't any of those because there are so many awesome things in this world and so many wonderful people to share your life with.

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Hope for your situation? Absolutely!
Hope for your arm and fingers to regain feeling? I... have no idea.

As I see it (and please pardon my candidness) according to your avatar and situation, you have two options: become Batman (although he did have quite an advantage in wealth), or become a Batman villain. In other words, both sides of that coin generally manage to turn their personal tragedies to their advantage, often dealing with intense pain and personal demons. (Personally, I'm hoping you choose Batman.)

Also, I'm very sorry to hear about the loss of your parents. I honestly cannot imagine what you're going through, and I hope my levity here did not offend you. I apologize if it has.

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I don't have an answer so I'll just bump the thread. I hope things get better for you

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First thing to say is: im glad you're still around with us. Life can be a hellish stressfull hardcore and painful experience, but is still an experience worth enduring, because all the pain wil in the end will give you some gain, making you stronger in mind and spirit, and that strenght you can then share with others, making us all stronger and better. No matter what never give up, besides, life is also full of fun and lovely moments, and fun and lovely people.

From the medical point, i dont know enought to say if you can recover fully, but know that i wish the best for you, and whatever happens, dont give up, there is always a way,even if we cant see it at the moment.

Wish you the best luck, a full recovery both in body and mind, and to see you around for a long time, happy and healthy.

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Might want to try reddit, there should be some medical forums where you might get more info, but I think they'd have trouble giving any advice with limited information.
I'm not a medical professional, so for what it's worth this is my recommendation:
I'd work on developing your support network and go through with whatever the current treatment plan. Making sure you can handle your (I'm guessing) depression and focus your efforts on recovery, should be a priority if there's a possibility of your mental state degrading again; I'd target that while attempting the physical therapy for the recovery of your arm.
If you are afraid that there may be other options you are missing, you can go for a consult with a different specialist.
Hopefully, you don't live in a place where healthcare is unaffordable.

Best of luck

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I do not have your life experience, just as you do not have mine. I did learn something from mine, however, and perhaps you will find it beneficial.

I spent the first 20 years of my life in extreme emotional pain. I won't get into the details, but it scarred me for life. Similar to physical wounds, emotional wounds leave scars, and those scars never go away. You have them for the rest of your life. Just like physical scars, however, what happened in the past is just that; in the past. We live in the present, and we look forward to the future. Our past is there to offer us an opportunity for learning and growth. Yes, even if that past was horrific. As long as there is life, there is the opportunity for change.

For the longest time, I could not figure out how to deal with my emotional pain. It was intense, and it was unbearable, but I did not accept suicide as an option. I have always believed in God, and I believed there had to be a reason why I suffered the way I did, even if I did not understand it. In order to bear the pain, I kept reminding myself of one thing in particular: "If I can feel pain, it is because I am still alive. If I can feel pain, I can feel other things, like love, and joy, and happiness. As long as I am still alive, there is hope of moving past this. All I have to do is keep moving forward. The only way to fail is to stop trying." Whenever things became "too much," I would remind myself of this, and I would pick myself up, and I would soldier on.

And then I learned something very valuable from a dog. I saw a video (on the news, I think) about a dog who had been in an accident and had lost most of the back half of its body. As part of rehabilitation, the dog was given a little cart to replace its hind legs. The rest of the video was devoted to showing how the dog was happily going about its life. That is when the realization hit me. "This dog is not dwelling on what happened, but rather is busy living a full life in spite of it." Realizing that I had been allowing myself to remain "stuck" in my painful past, I became determined to follow the example this dog had shown me. I became determined to live my life in the present.

As human beings, our perceptions and reactions are more complex than those of a dog. Even so, we have the ability to choose our path. My choice was to struggle toward self-improvement. Sure, I still have all of the emotional scars, and they will never go away, but I live on despite them. Therapy has helped to speed up the process of healing and creating new patterns of behavior to replace the old, but the key has always been my determination to "live a better life." I have chosen not to continue the patterns of dysfunction which plagued my family. I have chosen to take successful, loving, and emotionally stable people as my role-models. I have broken the mental and emotional chains which bound me to a dark place within my mind, and have finally become independent of my past. Certainly, it has not been easy. It is difficult to break habits of thought and action you have maintained your entire life. Nevertheless, it can be done. The only way to fail is to stop trying.

God plans, and we plan, and God is the Best of Planners. I still do not know the reason why I had to endure the suffering I did, but maybe part of God's plan was that I might share my story with you, today.

(This a different dog, in a different video, but perhaps it is worth a thousand words?)

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I'm glad that you managed to get past bad things that happened and moved on. Living in the past is never a good way of going on about life, people should learn from things that happened and move on trying to make the best of their life going forward.

Sometimes people really can learn a thing or two from animals, even really important things that can change the way we see things. The thing here though, is that the dog got a lot of love and support and 'twas easier for him to just focus on being happy with how things are now. A lot of humans in bad situations aren't so lucky, so they often feel down and make more mistakes.

That's why it's important to surround yourself with positive, supportive people (and animals, they can make you feel a lot better), remove the negative people and things from your life as much as you can, and focus on improving and enjoying your life.

There is one thing in your post that I have issue with though. Now personally I'm not a believer, actually I am, I strongly believe there is no god. I know some people have strong faith, and I don't want to shit on yours or offend you, you have every right to believe in whatever you want.

However how can someone intelligent (judging by all the posts I've read from you before) like you believe that god can plan everything that happens in the lives of over 7 billion people that inhabit this planet? Do you think he plans everyone's live fully from the moment you're born? Does he plan things out day-by-day, week-by-week? Do you have any idea how much time it would take to plan a life of a single person, let alone lives of over 7 billion people?

I mean really, saying something like this is stretching the whole god thing to the absolutely ridiculous level. And it's why I find it really hard to take believers seriously sometimes.

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These are bad questions (and religious people would likely have no problem providing some answers for them), because the entire concept of God is a power which can do anything. While by Occam's Razor God is a bad explanation to anything (because it's a more complex answer than pretty much any other answer), as a concept it's simple and alluring, because it allows deferring anything to a higher power, and thereby reducing the need to understand. People in general hold to beliefs which aren't logically justified. We are simply limited, and even people who believe in what science tells us have to take what other tells them at face value, because it's impossible to understand everything.

In any case, religious people have had thousands of years to think of answers to various questions. Sure, the answers aren't terribly consistent (especially between religions) and often depict God as pretty impotent and clueless, but they do exist.

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Before I give you my response, I want to be clear about one thing. I believe that God has given each human being free will. That is to say, each one of us is free to make up our own minds about things. By extension, this means we are free to believe in things that are not true, or to disbelieve in things that are true, and vice versa. Ultimately, we have sole jurisdiction over our own minds, and as God has given us that freedom and responsibility, I do not believe anyone else has the right to challenge it. I do not believe in trying to "force" someone to think a certain way, even if I feel he is mistaken in his beliefs.

That said, my perspective is different from yours. My point of view is that you are grossly underestimating God in a great many ways. It is in the nature of human beings to use themselves as a point of reference since comprehension begins at the point of personal experience. In other words, we cannot even begin to imagine something about which we have zero knowledge. For our imagination to even engage, there must be something with which to work. When a person has no knowledge of God, it is therefore a reflex to take the most immediate likeness---ourselves---as a point of reference.

But God is not a human being. Let us consider just a few differences between yourself and God. For the sake of this argument, I will use my understanding of God as derived from Scripture.

You are a being whose understanding of the universe is limited to what you can perceive and learn. You are able to perceive only four dimensions, and can only interact with three of them. (We are unable to manipulate time.) You cannot perceive future events, and your memory of the past is both limited and (like your perception) unreliable. You have the ability to choose and to attempt action, but no control over how reality operates, nor any real way of enforcing the final outcome of events. In the realm of Choice and Intent, you are the Master. In everything else, you are subject to rules and forces over which you have no control.

God, as Creator of the Universe, is the One who created those forces and rules. He created Time, He created Space, and He created everything within them. That means that He is not only not bound by them, He is "outside" of them. (This is not an easy concept to grasp. While we can imagine being "outside" a two-dimensional world, it is difficult for us to imagine being "outside" of Time and Space.) Beyond that, He set "the rules," and they are subject to His Will. He has total control over His Creation, and it does whatever He tells it to do.

Let us now go back to your question: "However, how can someone...believe that [G]od can plan everything that happens...?"

While God is able to "plan everything that happens," He does not do so. He does not "plan" your behavior. You have free will, after all. Everything else, however, is under His jurisdiction, and that means that if He wishes something to come to pass, there is no one who can prevent it. Similarly, if He does not wish something to happen, there is no one who can force it. When you are able to perceive all of Time and all of Space in a single instant, and the universe will always do whatever you tell it to do, it is a simple matter to incorporate the choices and actions of human beings into your planning. Because of who God is, He knows all that is, all that was, all that will be, and all those things which would have been had things happened differently. That is why I say, "We plan, and God plans, and God is the Best of Planners."

You are free to believe what you wish, of course. You asked a (relatively) simple question, and I gave you a Cliff Notes version of the answer. I only hope that my answer was not so brief as to be unintelligible. The true nature of Reality is a very deep discussion, indeed.

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In a tactical strategy game, you plan out the moves of each piece on the board. Many of those games are turn-based, and many of the real-time games are pausable. In any incarnation of (a) theoretical God(s), I imagine their interface is much more sophisticated than any we've devised for a simple computer game, but hopefully the comparison helps very simply answer the question you have.

-godprobe, an agnostic

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If you’re still in the early stages of recovery (less than 12-18 months) I would counsel you not to worry too much about the outcome. Leave it to your doctor to worry about it. Focus on your physical and emotional recovery.

I would link some medical studies here but I don’t not think that would be beneficial at this point in time. Take care and surround yourself with supportive people.

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Small bump,I have started kinesitherapy. I have also taken an appointment with another surgeon in my town,k and a well known specialist in Montpellier.

From what i could understand, surgery of tendons transfer is not needed if my median nerve goes fast enough to reach my hand before 12 to 18 months because a muscle deprivated from its nerve dies in 12-18 months. I still cannot flexd because it is too soon, I am doing recommended moves as much as can.
Felt the need to bump the thread because it is hard sometimes to deal with all this.

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I wish the best for you my dude, depression is the worst, I know firsthand. We just have to soldier on with life and we'll get to the light at the end of the tunnel one day.

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And another little bump to wish you good luck with the therapy and the appointment with the other surgeon :)

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I'm not sure if I can give you good advices, but my mom died 10 years ago, while I was 13. At the time, I think for the young age, I reacted badly, and as such I mean that I stayed strong as long as I could (thinking pretty much every day that it was better for her, 'cause she was sick, and that there must have been a reason). Two of my relatives are good psychologists, and warned me saying that this could backfired at me pretty easily. Now, I'm struggling to study, I think I'm depressed, and trying to get out of it. Sometimes I feel worse than 10 years ago. It's not easy, nobody ever said that, but lately I went to a non-relative psychologist to "find answers". Not an answer was found, but it's a good exercise to think differently, to see your life with another eye. Just try it, there's nothing weird about it, it's a bit of a taboo here in Italy, but many successful people went and will go to talk to a psychologist. Many of them are really good. So take a long break from whatever you have to do now, just follow kinesitherapy and cures, hobbies, go out, cry, eat, travel. You'll soon undestand that's never, never over. Time can help. And remember: there's always someone loving you, you just have to notice it. Have a speedy recovery! <3

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