Hardly a dumb decision. Who exactly gets to decide if the game is awful or not? For you to really, really know, you will have to play it anyways. Reviews sites are shittier and shittier these days and relying on them to decide what is worth purchasing or not is just as bad as preordering, imo.
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I would disagree in this case. Frictional Games has built a legacy and a solid portfolio of this type of game with the Penumbra series and Amnesia: The Dark Descent. They seem to know what they are doing and are worthy of some faith that they will get it right. Not all pre-orders are really that much of a risk bro.
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The game exists. Its just not released. But the game definitively exists. Its also cheaper than what it will be when released, and I want to play it day one anyways. I dont give a single fuck about the reviews that it will come out for it. Im buying it regardless.
"discouraging the culture of buying stuff before it even exists"
And this is not a good thing. Like, at all. Some of the best indie games of recent times were only possible because of Kickstarter!(FTL and Chivalry)
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I know it actually exists. But for the purpose of our discussion, it doesn't really exist - if there's more time between purchase and delivery than it takes to process the payment, there is a chance they can delay release for another week/month/year. Or add cocks everywhere. Stranger things have happened to games.
Also, I think KS is an entirely different beast - it is used to fund the process of making a game. The new Amnesia is, as you've said, almost done, and Frictional got filthy rich with the first one, they're not lacking money. The motives for organizing a crowdfunding campaign are (should be?) different to those of taking pre-orders.
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Will preorder. 20%off for one my most wanted games of this year? Its a deal. Frictional Games and The Chinese Room are awesome.
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Exactly! I mean, I understand complaining about preordering AAA 60$ games. But a Indie one, for 12 euros, and the spiritual sequel to one of the best horror games ever? Sounds like a damn pretty good deal.
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Gamefly has it for 20% OFF, plus you can use code AUG20 (US site) or AUG20UK (UK site) for an additional 20% off, bringing it down to 36% OFF =)
Edit: Doesn't appear to be Steam though. However, I'd argue that it may not really matter much because as of right now the game doesn't seem to use Steam features like cloud saves or achievements. Neither did the first Amnesia or the Penumbra games.
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The game might be awful even if you see every review and other player praise it. Quality is subjective. Let people preorder if they want.
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The first one didnt have any jumpscars, so I dont see why this one would.
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In the mods/custom stories? Sure. In the main game? Not really.
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What about doors slamming behind you? Things being knocked over? Convenient sound cut-in of a pursuer only as it bangs on a door to a room you're right next to? Amorphous evil blobs appearing from nowhere and in the event of touching you, a sharp noise and a damage decal on your screen?
Sure, Amnesia was far more subtle about its jump scares, but it still had jump scares. It just happened to have a tense atmosphere making it a more 'genuine' horror. What it didn't really have was "screamers", an extreme version of jump scares used in most modern horror, where the startling event is accompanied by a loud sound and often a sudden change in the visuals.
Besides, it's a new game entirely, so it's level of intentional startle-scares and how severe they might be remains to be seen.
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Jump scares can become mundane when overdone anyway. It seems better to build up a consistent and oppressive atmosphere rather than too many 'cheap' scares or ear-raping events. As they say, it is often the things that go unseen that are the most frightening.
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I hope they don't make a easter egg reference to PDP since he made the game so popular.
They spammed the comments about him on the first video teaser when it first came out.
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No, Amnesia made Amnesia big.
Being well known by the general youtube community came well after it being well known in the gaming community. You also can't discount the effect the countless other Let's Play folk had in making videos of it too.
The only thing PDP really influences is the awareness of young gamers. He's kind of like the "Scary Movie" or the Adam Sandler of the Lets Play world. He's an okay guy but really overrated and overcredited, whose work is pretty lacking. Popularity doesn't necessarily ensure any degree of quality, just as recognition doesn't mean the person has done anything worth recognising, like Honey Booboo. :P
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PewDiePie is the most popular youtuber. He is well known for playing Amnesia. People see the most well known youtuber playing what looks to be a fun game. You decide to buy the game. PewDiePie had a big influence.
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Amnesia already had tons of sales under its belt (had already been in a Humble Bundle), and was known by pretty much everyone interested in horror/suspense games before PDP was even a thing. PDP got the tween crowd in on it. I'm not saying he didn't help its sales a bit, but it was already a well established title.
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Couldn't decide between the word more or so.
But he made it big. I mean it was known before I'd say. But I'd say he helped put the game on the map a lot more. Because after he made his videos he made a spark of thousands of other people doing it too.
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Being one of the first to play something doesn't mean they're automatically the reason it "got big" within a community. The Lets Play community is pretty damn active, and the "watch our reaction" thing has been going on forever, specifically with scary/gross things. Surely you remember the "Reactions watching 2girls1cup" thing?
His fame is a false combination of being one of the early LPs, and having a rabid fanbase who insisted on bringing him up in unrelated videos. I can only hope that people insisting he made Amnesia big are just trolling.
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Sure the watch our reaction thing was popular. But it wasn't with video games really. He's the one that made face cam big as well for video games on youtube as well, no one ever used to do it, but now it's very common and almost the norm.
People getting 100s/1000s views on their video doesn't make a real impact. His 500k-1 million views videos were.
Amnesia was a known game yes, but him LPing it made it even more known. Even console players and such knew what that game was because of him.
I guess the better thing to say is he made Amnesia a lot bigger than it already was, though at the same time, Amnesia made him big.
To say that he didn't make Amnesia bigger would just be in denial like that to say
(And if it wasn't Obvious. I don't like PDP. At all. But facts are facts man.)
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"A lot bigger than it already was" again gives him more credit than is due.
A good comparison would be like saying "Yahtzee made the Orange Box bigger than it was". Yes, it generates awareness, but not enough to exactly warrant much in the way of a celebrity status. If it wasn't for PootyP, it would have been the next up random LPer. I'm not denying he had an effect, I'm simply saying that the person the awareness was generated through did nothing special to warrant praise or tribute. Kind of the equivalent of someone commenting "FIRST :D" and being upvoted the most, but then people saying the poster is noteworthy because of it. Good games have a natural gravity to them, and while exposure to non-gamers does help them to grow, saying they helped make it big is kind of a big fart in the face of the developers IMO :V
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"A good comparison would be like saying "Yahtzee made the Orange Box bigger than it was"."
wut. No it isn't. Not in the slightest at all.
Yahtzee made one video about it. Unlike PDP made A LOT of videos for the series and was making LOTS of videos about it. And because of all the videos it got a lot of hits and it got more known.
"it would have been the next up random LPer."
Maybe, maybe not. Penumbra didn't take off now did it?
Sure you can say he got lucky with it.(Which I would agree) But that luck helped get him famous and Amnesia more famous.
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Yeah, but I think saying "he made it get big/bigger" implies way too much of his part in the game (given we're talking overarchingly about an in-game easter egg).
Admittedly that might just be me being picky about word choice rather than the point behind it. So I guess I'll fold my arms and say "NO U" and just leave it at this. xD
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I just want to add, in many Halo games their are Rooster Teeth easter eggs in them. :p
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I need to gloat now.
PDP posted part one for Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs. It was given to him early by the publishers. (It's unlisted now. Guess it was put up too soon, or the publishers decided to do what the developers wanted, and make him wait to post it.)
Obviously the publishers know he helped make it big, otherwise they wouldn't have given him an early copy and asked him to to play it.
He made it big.
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I can imagine it now...
Break all barrels in a certain area and you'll hear a whisper of "Pewdieepieee...."
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Maybe it got in his way when running away or something?
I know he likes chairs for some reason.(Cause he can hold/defend himself?)
I know this because I've seen youtube comments of people saying "dumb barrels" and "chairs <3" and dumb shit like that.
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It's very easy to get yourself a copy right now if you'd like. You can buy one off the Humble Weekly sale for about $3, and it also includes Thomas Was Alone, Botanicula, The Showdown Effect, and McPixel. If you don't have access to a paypal account or credit card, you can also trade with people in Steam items for a very cheap copy.
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Thanks for the tip.
Ill see if any of my entries here pan out (unlikely but what the hell) and if not ill try to grab it off the humble bundle website, three bucks for amnesia isnt a bad deal all told. Even if Im not interested in the other ones on offer. (no offense to any of those games for the record, but I already have Thomas was alone and none of the other ones but amnesia interest me.)
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It's also a strange sentiment given that this site is for volunteering spare copies to other people.
If a person was willing to pirate games, they wouldn't have any real use in coming here, because they would already have nearly every game in the world available to them.
We're all here because we choose to abstain from piracy.
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That doesn't make sense. Most people come here for free copies of games. On torrents they also get everything "for free". If anything I'd say a lot of people actually uses sites like torrents but not the other way around. I'm not saying that though.
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This. Actually bought the Penumbra Collection 3 times! :P ( Gamersgate, Frictional Games site and then Steam)
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I will definitely buy this game, but I haven't decided if I will pre-order or wait for a sale, I still have 3 weeks to decide though. :P
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Being honest, I only pre-order when there is something involved... I really can wait to buy it after the launch since there is no pre-order bonus included. I'm sure that I'll go buy it but there isn't anything to make me invest money on it before the launch.
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Well, I don't even really like coop (maybe just a bit), I love single player and horror is my favorite video games genre... so you can see why I'm against it :)
Besides he's talking about Amnesia co-op. What would you do together? Solve puzzles? Collect notes? Some things just don't fit together.
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Actually it doesn't sound as bad as you think. Amnesia is a story driven (mostly linear) adventure so it wouldn't be a good idea for this game. But Faceless is an upcoming F2P co-op horror game which has an interesting feature that prevents players from using voice chat unless they are in close proximity with each other. So each player will start in different areas of the map and can only communicate when they are close to one another. Of course the difference is that this is a survival game, so players will spend a lot of time away from each other in the open maps.
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Could always get it from humble bundle Store too and get drm copies for pc, mac and linux as well as steam code
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Fair enough :). I went with steam too but nice have the choice
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Yeah, pre-ordered this a few hours after the pre-order opened up. Been waiting for this since the ARG back in early 2012 (that when you solved it, it said "a machine for pigs coming Halloween" or something like that). So excited ^-^
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I think the original devs worked together with The Chinese Room
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Cheapest price, if that is a concern, I have been able to come across is Gamefly which starts out at the $16 w/ tax it bumps it up to $17.31? However you can use the coupon code GFDAUG20 until August 31 for 20% off which brings it down to $13.85 tax included!
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Here!
I'm gonna get some more $ from cards and I'm pre-ordering it! Good price too!
Can't wait to play this :)
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