I recently ran into this problem again that "Other" ticket types being processed for a long time and I don't blame the guys for this, as they work as volunteers. I would love to have some kind of a "premium" paid support as a new source to support Steamgifts and its servers. I wouldn't mind to pay few bucks for the work each time I'd like to have done faster than tracking that damn ticket for weeks/months. Thanks for all your work anyway!

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Would you use premium faster support?

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Depends on my money

And if you won't like support handling, you will press refund? Doesn't make sense to me. Also support workers work free, if cg will get paid for their work, it will make him slaver.

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So many chaotic messy thoughts - what are the problems exactly? Slavery, meaninglessness of paid faster support, free work or else

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"There are too many problems already so let's leave it as is" is also a solution :-)
Does that mean the website won't find new funds useful? Or it has enough funds for its maintenance?

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I'm sure not everyone buys something from Steam store (since there's always a big percentage of freeloaders who play F2P games, use free keys, keys are cheaper than purchasing from Steam directly etc.), but maybe the built-in Steam store with paid games is really useful for those to pay money for games anyway?

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You forget the ref earnings when you click on a store link (HB, Fanatical etc.) on this site -and i assume this is the biggest earning source for this site-.
Standard is that ACTIVATED ( https://www.steamgifts.com/account/settings/referrals ), so cg earn money with each one that visit a shop and buy there something.
Because i am a HB partner myself, i know that they set a 24h cookie, which means you earn with all purchases from that PC/User for 24h and not only the one click. Of course only if the cookie don't get deleted and the person purchase more as the one bundle in that timeframe.

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As a easy calculation, count that 5 - 15% of a game price or a bundle price go into his pocket.
Bundle upper limit, store game price bottom limit. At least for HB.

I don't earn much because only around 5 (or something like that) people purchase with my ref -and still get a 3 digit $ result at the end of the year (before i pay taxes on it)-.
So i see clearly how much he earn when 1k or 2k people do it, in different stores.
When you calculate only $10 for each one, after he paid taxes, fees etc., then you come still on $10k - $20k/year. Only with HB.

Of course are my calculations only assumings, based on my own experience with HB. I don't know his earnings, i don't know his expenses but i am absolutely sure that he have a good earning with/from the site.

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Hi Masafor, we're not in the HB partner program. I joined it back in 2018, we generated a few hundred sales in a couple of days, and then they quickly terminated the account without reason. I asked them how we could resolve the issue to continue our relationship together and they refused to reply. I do have a "refer a friend" code added to outgoing links but that is literally generating a few dollars a month of HB credit. When it reaches $50, or when the credit is about to expire, I'll run a giveaway for the community.

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Oh, that experience with HB is, of course, bad. Because a explanation should be the minimum.

But you don't have such problems with all stores, or ?

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The explanation I received was the account was being terminated according to Section 7.2 of the Humble Affiliate Agreement, which says...

TERMINATION OF AGREEMENT. Either party may terminate this Agreement for any reason or no reason
on seven (7) days prior written notice (for which email shall suffice) to the other party.

The referral links from the other stores cover about 5% of the server costs and the rest is paid for by advertising and Patreon.

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I stick to my idea of offering a "bribe" in form of a game key to the support member actually working on the ticket. Why should cg who has nothing to do with solving your issue profit from the work of others?

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carrot or stick :P

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<< You pay let's say $4 for premium support ticket
<< Support member who solved it gets a bonus from the website directly without bribes, offerings, trading and other primitive forms of motivation

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Well we aren't far apart in this idea. What I wanted to see is the reward goes to the support volunteer in whole if - and that's a big if - this would get implemented in the site policy.

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so like mining a block in crypto, first mod to "handle" the ticket gets a game key 🤣

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I don't see any link between Patreon and faster support times

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paying to support the site.
what part don't you understand?

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Does it make support tickets completed faster for all of 50 supporters?

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Yeah, but these SG threads contain multiple pages so...

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Sure, current mods are great, but not many of them are working at the moment sadly

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I am an evil god who increases the work of supporters.
No, it was a Kappa.ヾノ・Θ・)


After looking at it for a long time, it seems to me that the total amount of response depends first of all on the content of the support ticket.

If it is a reroll request, it will be accepted relatively immediately if the winner agrees.
The same goes for anything related to a GA that was made by mistake.
Someday, if you send a donation to CG, the AI may do it for you. (my wish).

Things will get done for support ticket cases where these volunteer supporters are less psychologically burdened.

So what are the cases where things don't get done?
The number of junior & senior moderators is a bit high, but it may be difficult to handle all the cases that cannot be handled by those moderators.
 You would think that more upper level moderators would be good, but if even one evil moderator gets mixed in with the others, there may be more irregularities and arbitrary responses to some users that are not covered here.
 It takes time to foster trust relationships and it is not always clear whether the community or CG has a mechanism to audit them.
 If one day a mechanism is implemented that allows the CG or community to audit all payments in one place, the number of volunteer supporters and higher authorities may increase, and the ticket digestion rate may increase, but for now this is a pipe dream.

 If only to the extent that they would come and gently hand me a pretty cucumber or something like that, you know?

If an Arab millionaire gave CG a large sum of money, it would be difficult to hope for a full time response without at least paying a salary to hire a credible supporter who has been volunteering his time so far.
I'm not sure if there will be more like SteamGiftRussia or SteamGiftUSA and they will be treated as employed there, or if they will be self-employed and outsource from CG, but I'm not sure if they can do it as a volunteer but work and be accepted.

Patreon

https://www.steamgifts.com/account/settings/patreon
🥇🪔💰
In any case, wealthy human beings who can directly refuel their CG need to be reminded of the existence of these functions.
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The current number of various moderators and their appointments can be found here.
https://www.steamgifts.com/users

Is it a different moderator job?
https://www.steamgifts.com/roles/guest
If you look at the capabilities assigned to each authority, you will see what can and cannot be done immediately.

The scope of the role and the number of appointees shows how difficult things can be.
For the number of active users in this community, perhaps there are those who would believe it if they were told that tentacled creatures are managing the community.

When the busyness of CG calms down a bit and there is talk of adding more supporters, those who have free time may want to join the supporters.
I am unfortunately not useful as my space translator sometimes breaks down. Too bad.(ノΘ`)💻🔥

Um, was it the availability of premium support?

I don't think it is possible even if I had the money.

 However, I think there should be a priority window or something for game developers to rush to add games for them. I have a feeling that this is the case.
(I've seen stories before in discussions about game developers being left out for long periods of time.)
I think it is a bit unfortunate that the opportunity for the community to play a new game early is compromised.
(It is also possible that the game developer did not list the appropriate ticket.)

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I've been using this site for 8 years and only needed to contact support 16 times so far, that's just twice a year, so it's not like I have a lot of experience on the matter. That said, I once got wrongly suspended because a key from an old giveaway that I won got revoked, I had written a support ticket pretty much as soon as I encountered the problem but because it was in the "other" category it never got noticed. So I get your frustration, I was very angry at the time and considering to just leave this place for good.
However I don't think throwing money into the issue is going to help fixing it, one could interpret the system you're proposing as little more than bribing support for a fast response, or worse, for a beneficial response. It throws the whole concept of a somewhat impartial support staff into the trash. There's also the quite important issue of what the heck happens with the tickets of those users that can't or aren't willing to pay for premium support, will their problems simply get ignored or receive subpar attention?
I don't think this is gonna work buddy, sure it might work just fine for you, but there's a chance you end up fucking it up for everyone else.

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It will work great for like 50-200 website supporters, will earn money for the website, but wiil continue not to work for everyone else... :-)

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So it's just a case of you wanting it to be fixed for you and maybe a few others but you couldn't care less about the underlying problem?
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as a bit of cunt but to me your whole proposal sounds a bit too self centered.

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Can you just pay a bit to support the website to receive faster support as well or is it just too elitist for you?

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That might be better. But you can't tell me you don't see the potential for a messy situation when you allow a user to directly pay for support when one of the things that support is allowed to do is lift suspensions.
I'd rather wait for months for an answer than risk corrupting the whole system.

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no thanks - it will end up with normal people not being able to get replies at all - if they can get paid for making people wait in the hopes people will then pay to get a reply

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Actually for some normal users it would help realize it is cheaper buy game for themselves directly than pay for a chance. Now it is recommendation to paying for solving tickets, next step can be adding button "Instant win for 10€".

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A move like this would make the publishers/developers more hostile towards the site. They will probably see it as a way to profit from their hard work, similar to the grey market places.

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How about recruiting more volunteers? I feel that would be much more logical and avoid creating a horrible place where you have to pay for support.

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If you really want quick response time, you need at least 3 people, working full time as support, so at least one of them is available at any given time. Are you willing to pay 3 full time salaries?

As you say, you are willing to "pay few bucks" each ticket, why should anyone be around waiting for your ticket?

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In fact average dedicated support employee from India for forum/chat (like in EA's Origin) would cost only $300-600 per month - not the highest amount of money for such high-traffic website as Steamgifts

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