But bundled games don't change CV that was earned before they became bundled, right?
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Right, but they get added to bundle list with quite delay sometimes, and work from date bundle started so you might see loss of CV
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We've been told many times they don't.
If the Steam price goes down, then they lower it, which even then is unfair.
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How is SteamGifts supposed to be able to tell the difference between a gift and key?
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Uh, you have done giveaways so I know you have seen the option to choose either gift or key....
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There is no way for SteamGifts to check anything against your steam profile, that falls on the user. That is why as a giveaway creator, we have to check to make sure the people who win our things activate them. You also have to click the option to send the key, or you can delete it and send a gift.
The point is, SteamGifts works on the honor system, there is no way for it to automatically check anything including if it's a key or a gift.
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SteamGifts is most certainly checking my steam profile games list and filtering ones I already have from the listings. That's them checking something against my profile.
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This is done through SteamAPI. This won't help with determining whether the game you received was a gift or a key.
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I know how it's done and what it's limitations are. Apparently you are too stupid to understand my point though, so here you go. I was responding to the moron that said sg doesn't have a way to check ANYTHING against your steam profile. SG is checking if you have a game, against your profile, to then filter those games for the list. That is sg checking SOMETHING against your profile. That makes the statement I was responding to incorrect. Thanks for all your help though. Hopefully this lesson in remedial logic has helped you.
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I think the people who are generous enough to host and maintain this free site for this amazing community already do more than enough, adding that to their plate would be quite a lot.
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Didnt another giveaway site have something like this? I believe it was gameminer. And then the middle man account was disabled by Steam for some reason or another and all of the gifts were lost.
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But the system gameminer uses now works perfectly: you send the gift to the site email before your giveaway ends, writing the giveaway code as the subject, and the site automatically sends the gift to the winner once the giveaway ends.
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It's not counted as a game that comes from a bundle but that is as much worth as if it was from a bundle
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The problem with an automated system is that it's a bot, and bots get banned, so what happens when that happens? What if it's in the middle of a transaction and that game is lost?
The other negative side of that would be exploits. If there is only one target to focus on, malicious users may be more tempted to try to access that account.
It would be a nice feature to see automatic sending of gifts and keys, but I wouldn't expect that from a free site. Also, the lowering of CV doesn't really bother me I mean it's not like my net worth is based on what I bought everything I own at. Drive a car off a lot, some of the value is lost instantly. I look at buying games on Steam the same I guess lol, if I level up I level up, otherwise I am just gonna throw out games I love or friends want and hope that people enjoy them.
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you think we should point out that owning several accounts on SG is forbidden?
he could get permaban for it
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You can never defeat the level destroying monster ...... he strikes randomly and viciously !
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Used to be Lvl 3 in this account now im lvl 1....wtf
in this account
More than one account confirmed
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store price changes is the other fancy reason ;-)
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btw mine dropped by 0.03....or something around 6-7$, i guess one or two games get a price change
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blame manually added bundle games, they take time sometimes
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Useful, it also checks for not activated wins. I just checked myself and the only game marked as not activated is a false positive. Thanks for linking this tool.
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Some time ago i give 2 copies of Betrayer, a bundle game (15% value), i recived 3 pts for each copy (6 total and reach lvl 2)but later the price in STEAM drop from $20 to $10 so my contribution change and instead of 3, each copy contribution was update to 1.5 pts (so i loss 3 pts on my cv and my lvl drop to 1 again) later i made another GAs and reach my lvl again. The points is, if some of the game you already have given away drop is price on steam, your cv will modified acording the new prices.
Check your CV using http://www.sgcv.tk/ for you it says $24.00 Level 1 ( 96.04% to Level 2 ).
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It doesn't make sense for it to apply retroactively. If someone purchased a $60 game and gave it away then later on it gets bundled or discounted it doesn't make the $60 that person contributed into $9.
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It applies retroactively only if you give the game away after it gets bundled and before it's added to the bundle list on SG.
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What about price drops? does it works the same? Or its like: "I give away GTAV at $60 and a year from now it drops price to $30 then I will lose half of my points"
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Permanent price drops indeed happen to every game retroactively due to the way price fetching is coded. I know from experience, I gave away Dark Souls when it was still 30$, then lost that CV when it became 20$.
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Really? that's completely stupid, I'm no motivated at all to ever give non bundled games with this dumb rule.
Thanks for your reply btw :)
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Sorry mate but I'm 31 years old and make around $625 dlls a month, so I don't have a lot of money to spare in these kind of gifts, also I don't think it's fair at all the rule that Doshmaku just explained
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OK, now you're contradicting yourself and not making a lot of sense. The whole point is that I disagree with the method and think that making games lose value retroactively is unfair and stupid.
Have a nice day buddy
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Not really a rule, more of a shortcoming of the site's technical aspect. To be fair, it would be nice if your 60$ game remained 60$ in SG, but storing prices could add more stress to the site, and there's possibility of price glitches that sometimes happen with discounted packs. (mentioned below)
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It's as Doshmaku said. If you give away a non bundled game, you will keep full CV after it gets bundled.
But if for example, there's a bundle that comes out today with a game that has never been bundled before, but the game only gets added to the bundle list tomorrow, people that give away the game today will get full CV and retroactively lose it the next day when it's added to the list. People that have given away the game before today will keep full CV.
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In this account ? Tell us what the other accounts are so we can transfer your levels to the other ones.
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Quite an opposite thing for me happened few days ago(I didn't even notice it until yesterday): Used to be lvl 2.94. Now I'm 3.06... Thank you SG!
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Out There Somewhere had a price raise on Monday, that's most likely why.
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Sorry to disappoint. :( (see my response to TempeteJoachim)
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So apparently the game now costs $15 ? Because here it's still 5€
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Okay, never mind. It looks like it's just that glitch where the game itself has no discount, but one pack that contains it is discounted and so SG (and steamprices.com which I used to check) picks out the pack's price instead. Polarity was affected by this glitch too.
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TY i understood now why, its stupid but i get it....btw i only have 1 account
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look everyone... i gifted some games and became lvl 2, and i'm honest take little level up for each game near 0.3 or 0.03 or 0.06 i don't quiet remember but now i'm 1.71 -_- what the strange stuff?
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all games i'd take on discount. but what the F? it's not bundle if i understand it correctly. i buy it on steam and sent as gift all the times... point my face in the FAQ if i'm so stupid and don't understand simple stuff :-/
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That confused me a little too at first but you are understanding the definition of a bundled game wrong.
Not only games bought from a bundle count as bundled but every game that has ever been bundled.
Look at it like that... Even if you had bought World of Goo for 9,99 € directly from the steam and give it away there would be no advantage for the winner compared to winning a copy that was bought for 0,33 € from Humble.
Or in other words even if you payed more that doesn't change the objective value of the game.
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it's kinda stupid i think. but it's simple for calculating, because site can't know for which price you buy it.
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You can check on the Bundle list.
Every game listed there counts as bundled and will only give 15 % CV.
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thanks -_- i think now that site have hard times on steam sales.
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Used to be Lvl 3 in this account now im lvl 1....wtf
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