Greetings, fellow math enthusiasts!
The weekend is near, and it's time to assign some math work!

11681 x 119869 - 60422 - 17860 - 35433 - 94116 x 4993 x 595073 = ?

Lv2, Ends June 17

Hints will be here, if necessary.

1. The answer is not small, and definitely not negative!
2. The answer is way longer than you think. In fact, it's exactly 3436 characters long!
3. There are two steps you need to do, but only one kind of operator is used. (x or -)
4. 10 - > 16

The most important part in this puzzle is realize that the answer you're looking for is sgtools code.
Instead of subtraction, we treat the symbol '-' as a hyphen, which is part of the code.

So the two step you need. First, do the multiplication, leave you 5 numbers separate by symbol '-'.

Most people probably didn't realize this is sgtools format or it consists of hexadecimal numbers.
It's indeed rare to see people manipulate the sgtools code.
But I can't help thinking about the hyphen symbol in the math puzzle, it's a perfect fit!

Speak of the math. the second part of the puzzle is an actual math question, generated by this site.
It should be easy if you're familiar with these math equations, if not, there are plenty of online tools you can use(mathgpt, wolfram, etc..).

That's all! Hope you enjoy the puzzle, I'll probably go back to 5-character code next time.

edit.
As someone point out I made a mistake in hint2, it should be 36 not 34!

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Should we just answer on the comment ?

1 month ago

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It's better to leave the answer in the GA comment.

1 month ago

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If the answer was the amount of money I had I would be in crippling debt

1 month ago

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I highly doubt that!

1 month ago

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I also got a huge negative number, according to PEMDAS.

1 month ago

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Yep. Giant negative number.

1 month ago

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I just fix my broken math, hope it's working now..

1 month ago

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Yes, it works.
Thank you and bump!

1 month ago

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Thank you!
A little sweating after my tripple check.

1 month ago

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Ah, the second one as well, marvelous!

1 month ago

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Hm, the answer which i got is a negative number and too big to be an SG code... interesting... But this is my 14th hour of being awake today after 3 hours of sleep, so its possible that I should check it tomorrow... ðŸ˜…

1 month ago

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same... both correct math and incorrect order of operations result in numbers with far to many characters for a SG code.

1 month ago

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solves the math(both correctly... and incorrectly), has no idea how to make it into a sg code

1 month ago

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same here ðŸ˜…

1 month ago

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bump for solved

1 month ago

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A+ for the speed solver!

1 month ago

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You wouldn't believe how much rust I had to remove for this :-)

View attached image.
1 month ago

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I must be bad at math I tried left to right and pemdas and nothing I get makes any sense. Just massive numbers.

1 month ago

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Bump! :)

1 month ago

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bump for confused :)

1 month ago

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Bumping while waiting for hints... ðŸ˜…

1 month ago

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bump for solved!

1 month ago

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OOooh numbers. Yeah no, my arithmophobia already made it hard to open the thread so not even going to try that one.

1 month ago

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Bump for solved!

1 month ago

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Thank you, bump.

1 month ago

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Welp, i don't get it, tried to do the equation on a calculator, then on paper and then checked with Chatgpt, none of the answers gave a "right" answer, since either the result was negative or just wrong, idk what the solve is!!!!

1 month ago

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I believe I figured out the first step, still no clue how to proceed afterwards. I'll probably wait for a hint, as there are simply too many possibilities right now

1 month ago

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bump

1 month ago

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Does it follow some specific rule I'm unaware?
Because proper math rules says that the number I got makes no sense.

1 month ago

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bump for solved

1 month ago

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I thought I knew what I was doing, but came out with a massive negative number.

1 month ago

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Happy ðŸŽ‚day, Turbo!

1 month ago

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Thanks. Time really does feel like it speeds up as you get older. Can't believe I've been here for 10 years :)

1 month ago

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Oh, didn't even see it is a big anniversary. Well, here is to the next 10 years! ðŸ˜ƒ

1 month ago

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You still need to fix your math, I'm afraid. Despite your hint saying otherwise, the answer is most definitely negative. Since you're only using subtraction and multiplication, the order of operation rules are abundantly clear. You end up with a 10-digit number minus a 15-digit number. The result is a negative number that itself has 15 digits!

If you meant for a different order of operations, you need to add some parentheses.

I have no idea how a 15-digit negative number turns into a giveaway code. :)

1 month ago

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I tought the same thing at first, but i was wrong, same as you. Math actually checks out.

1 month ago

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How so? Multiplication/division always comes before addition/subtraction in the absence of parentheses. SO the equation above is exactly equivalent to:

(11681 x 119869) - 60422 - 17860 - 35433 - (94116 x 4993 x 595073)

Those last three numbers multiply together and get subtracted from the rest. Right to left, left to right, it doesn't matter. The grouping caused by the order of operations is all that matters.

1 month ago

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Its not my place to give hints, but the fact that people got in should tell you the math is mathing.

1 month ago

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and if you do it left to right its a 19 digit number.... no idea how to turn that into a code either(assuming its the right number to work with).

1 month ago

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There must be some other code here, because you're right, the math absolutely does not check out.

1 month ago

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I haven't solved it yet but someone solved it already. You're just thinking way too narrow-minded, similar to his previous puzzle where if you only thought about it like math, you weren't getting it. It's obvious the math is returning a negative number if you do it according to normal PEMDAS, anyone with the internet/wolfamalpha can tell you that so there's clearly something else going on.

edit: got it. oh lord-y me that one was a tough one.

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You just dont go and calculate the operations in any order you want. There are rules, you know.

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Don't worry, no rules are broken here.

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I think I get it, but Im not at a computer at the moment
Edit: solved the first one
Double edit: fully solved.

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it's not math, it's better because it's twchiu math (aka kinda "math")!

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You might be too negative here.
I'm pretty sure normal math is all you need!

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Closed 3 weeks ago by twchiu.

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