Not really. XP released in late 2001. XP mainstream support ended in early 2009. So it had ~7.5 years of support (+5 years of extended till this year).
Win 7 released in late 2009, so it's 6.5 years old early next year when support ends, only one year less.
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Windows XP
RTM - August 24, 2001
General availability - October 25, 2001
End of mainstream support - April 14, 2009
End of extended support - April 8, 2014
Windows 7
RTM - July 22, 2009
General availability - October 22, 2009
End of mainstream support - January 13, 2015
End of extended support - January 14, 2020
Going by general availability to end of mainstream support, XP was 8 years, 6 months and 7 will be 5 years, 3 months - a substantially shorter period of time. However Windows Vista also had mainstream support for 5 years and 3 months and so will Windows 8, so it looks like that's a consistent time frame now.
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they will still provide security updates for several years. Searching the net provides better tech support quicker than contacting microsoft.
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But extended support for Win 7 will be available until January 2020, so no worries =)
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Yeah, you mean the ones where Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with Windows 8? I'm funny and I know it.
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Well that sucks, but at least the extended support will last a while so it's fine.
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I'm feeling the same. Thus far, my feelings about Windows 8 are the same as they were about Vista. P
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They don't add any new game to GFWL. I think they just let it on life support do the games that weren't patched could still run.
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that's actually better . . . though after how bioshock 2 ran for me before they removed gfwl i'm certainly not buying anything that uses it. i was painfully ignoring the arkham games until they patched it out, which was fortunate because then i got them cheap through humble i think.
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It's funny you mention that. Bioshock 2 when it was given for free is what introduced me to GFWL. I played for about 3 or so hours only to find that you have to have an account to save but I had to quit the game to do everything. Uninstalled everything and in my dreams, I saw only beautiful fires lit across a flag that read 'GFWL'.
Okay, that last part is a lie, but it really did fuck me over.
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Darn, I can't use Windows 8. I've tried, I can't work with an environment that can't be navigated with solely the keyboard.
Let's hope Windows 9 gets released before then.
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... but you can navigate it with a keyboard?
I completely agree with you that it's an interface that's made for touch interfaces first and everything else second, but it still works with a keyboard. At least I've not seen any action that can't be done with a keyboard yet.
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did you not try for more than a couple minutes? the latest 8.1 makes things a lot more sane, but even from the windows 8 preview releases i could do everything with just a keyboard. the only thing i can't do without some sort of pointing device is use the awful cisco vpn client to connect to work, but that has nothing to do with windows 8.
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Well, I kind of had to help set up a laptop that was running 8.1
I couldn't figure out how to get a nice, searchable list of all programs installed, it took a while to figure out where and how to get to "My Computer", finding an actual Wi-Fi dialog with advanced options seemed confusing, and in general the whole "Charms menu" thing was confusing. Metro is pretty though.
I mean I think if I got used to it then it'd be fine, but it's not an interface that presents every possible option and advanced dialog at once, instead hiding them behind little swipes and generally trying it's hardest to look pretty rather than be useful.
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For Instant Search: Windows Key, tab to the down arrow, enter, tab to search bar (instant, will find all installed software).
For 2nd Instant Search:Windows key, start typing the word (no need to click/tab to a dialog box), hit enter to start the search, pretty fast. (It'll also find the other things, like PC, Network, Recycle, etc)
While it may be different, that doesn't make it worse. It just seems that people really dislike change.
Also, a list: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keyboard-shortcuts#keyboard-shortcuts=windows-8
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Works fine for me. Both Windows key + S, and Windows key then typing. You might also want to set it to "Everywhere".
This might help: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/2989-73-search-index-completely-disabled
And this too: http://blog.laptopmag.com/windows-81-search-index
I am running 8.1, btw.
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It's can't return moving to upper dir on backspace button :(
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maybe they will tease us with a reboot of windows 98, while they struggle with development of 9...
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The little fuckers really are desperate trying to shove W8 down or throats. Screw them
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Truthfully, as much as I don't care for the direction that Microsoft is going, I wouldn't mind giving Windows 8.1 a try. I just don't want to break the bank doing so.
Is there anywhere to get a full (not upgrade) legitimate copy of it for a reasonable price?
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It will be fine up to 2020 and Windows 8 is fine, nothing at all wrong with it, its a tad faster then 7 so I can see some people that hate speed disliking it. Plays every game fine, runs every program fine, interface wise it is pretty alright and if you seriously can't stand because of that well....just use 7 till 2020, 9 will be out before you know it anyways.
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Would not know, every game I tried worked fine, some actually ran better then in 7....
Guessing it has issues with really old games? Only old games I tend to return to are ones like Doom and Unreal to be totally honest.
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To be honest, no point in waiting, just use this, it doesn't have any performance drain and I have not had it do anything funny or crash once in months of using it.
I just use ninite.com when installing a new OS and it has the option for it, nice way of installing essentials right off the bat without going batty.
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I still have windows xp in a laptop. Works just fine and support ended already. Just stick to Windows 7 until you get something good.
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Yeah, as people have mentioned ... they will keep updating until 2020. But I don't care either way, it will still run. And upgrading is very cheap after all. Though I hope they go back to the traditional theme with Windows 9. Please, Microsoft. Please.
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"I would like to imagine that DX12 could run just fine on win7, but that they'll restrict it to win 8 to increase sales of that OS"
Well, here the Microsoft folks claim they plan to support DX 12 on Windows 7 as well: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2014/9-004
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"I'll still not believe it until we see it"
Same here, as other public briefings have stated that a few of the more multi-threaded things in DX12 rely on changes in the driver architecture that were introduced in Windows 8 kernel. So Windows 7 in the end may not see the biggest gains, but just maintaining compatibility is a pretty big deal in itself from the user perspective..
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Because Halo 2 required DirectX 10, which was only available for Vista. Which was the reason that the PC version did not sell. The Vista requirement also tanked the adoption rate for DX 10, which is why games now use 9 to support older systems an 11 for newer systems. It looks like MS is trying to learn from past mistakes at least. So fingers crossed that will actually happen.
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