what's your oppinion on subject
I don't see this happening that much, but I also don't buy that many games.
Couldn't care less tho. I mean you buy games on Steam when they are on sale, then they get cheaper. You get a game for the full price, the next day they are bundled. Shit happens.
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putting game on bundle takes time, sometimes even a few months to do it. Changing price takes propably a few days because it's publisher choice.
So selling game on discount and saying "hey! we are great, buy our game, maybe this will be affordable for you" and then making you feel stupid because sale was just a way to milk game at full price
That's ecactly the same when you're going to shop and seeing "great discount" sign and after the sale product costs the same.
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They could have made it free after the discount if they wanted, it's their game after all, you're just butthurt.
BTW some game get to the bundle even before they are published on Steam.
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So I understand you like this kind of practices and you don't mind companies laughing from you later.
After all those simple folks live only to earn our money and they will buy CoD 25 on preorder even if we will use game engine from part 16
Bundling games before publishing on Steam is different kind of story (ways of promoting, putting game on steam through greenlight or funding game development)
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If they put it on sale and still don't sell much, they can drop the base price. I don't see anything wrong.
If I were a game dev I would consider doing that myself if I'm not able to sell enough.
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you are wrong about the bundle thing. because the same thing happens there. games sometimes are on sale right before they are in a new bundle.
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It's definitely a deplorable course of action, but they're fully within their rights to do so.
I certainly cannot blame you for being aggravated by them.
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according to the histories on steamdb and ishereanydeal the base price was never higher than 9.99, the last discount was for 2.49 and now the new baseprice is for 5 (And the last 50% discount ist a month ago, not a few days.) So asking now for a refund to hoping for another 75% deal somewhere in the future?
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Damn, onk uncovers the truth!
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sry you're propably right about single copy price. I bought 4pack for 6,99 on tuesday and it was -75%. Changed main post, thanks.
I'm asking about refund because i don't like treating consumers like idiots. Buying or not from people like that is only weapon we have
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begin sarcasm Yeah devs! You should never drop the prices because you might offend your customers some day. Shame on you. end sarcasm
As many pointed out, you just got unlucky, no reason to take a dig at them for it.
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Well i paid lower price than it is now so I should be happy after all, right?
I think it's matter of time. Lowering game price is a normal way of any product life. But i can't accept lowering just after sales.
That is what hurts me, not even a little respect to a buyer.
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Ok your opinion....I don´t see there any disadvantage . I even think it´s strange to think, that lowering prices is a treating customers bad. You still paid less than now.
Any just give 10 seconds to this: maybe the developer noticed from his two sales in the past, that nobody or nearly none paid the base price, and so he is lowering it.
Or is it all about base-prices and how they are handled at SG or Trading....ok, then deal with it
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Of course they know about it. Many devs says they earn more from 70 or even 90% sales than from sales on normal prices, there is nothing bad in it (unless it's game scam game made only from assets without putting any effort in it like Temper Tantrum and few others -those games are made only because of fact they will be worth 0,2$ on sale and somehow has cards).
Let them lower price after two weeks or a month, I don't care, just not a day after sale.
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they lowered it a day after the sale and the sale still was cheaper....i guess i will never get the problem you have with that....
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How is changing the price of a product you're selling in hopes of getting better sales "shady practices"? No offense bro, but you're feeling too entitled.
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simple as that, you're putting price 10$ not many people buy your game (it's harsh market), putting game on sale is a way to sell some copies.
Propably most users on steam buy games only on sales.
But sales have this in common that those are short term so it's not a sale if it last a year. And here we are making a fool from a buyer making him thinking he bought game on sale and then reducing price day later to similiar.
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If the sales are bad, having a sale is not the only way of selling more copies. Lowering the base price is another way. If I understand you correctly, you're upset because they did so immediately after having a sale, even though you still ended up paying less. And even though you have the option of getting a full refund if you're unsatisfied for any reason. You need to keep in mind that not paying more for a game than the historical minimum is not a basic human right, it's a privilege.
From your use of expressions like "making a fool of the buyer" and "the company laughing at you" it's clear that you're taking this way too personally and emotionally. Chill bro, it's just business. And you do have the most important weapon in your hand, the ability to vote with your wallet. So do that and move on.
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Why would the buyer feel like a fool? The buyer still payed less than the price it is now at.
If you follow consoles, where you also upset with MS because 2 weeks after the Holiday promotion of getting the console for 300 they decided to just lower the price to 300 permanently instead of just for a promotion? And in this case it's worse because the regular price is now the same as the sale instead of more expensive than when it was on sale.
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i expected to read they increased the price and then added a discount (like some games had in the summer sale)... but how is lowering the price of a game a bad thing?
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Well besides throwing a wrench into my plans of how I'm going to split my 4 pack among groups, I'm not too peeved. 50% off is usually my min discount on unknowns so can't complain too much. I understand where you are coming from, but this isn't worth the gripe boyo.
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I don't get it. You still got it cheaper then new price right? And also I don't really see whats the problem in here - price changes happens everytime, it's just marketing. Also not even shady marketing. If game, on new price, would be cheaper that on that sale, after you bought it with discount, maybe we would be able to talk about it - unfortunatelly fo you, we don't have any 'case'. Now, (I dont want to offend you) it seems to me that you are just bitching. You are playing in some kind of whitekngithing game but you won't get my approval.
I think that you are just butthurt, because you were happy to gave few games with nice CV that you get really cheap, but now, when price dropped you are angry and rant about it.
Also, best source to check are game disscussion on steam. There are no single thread about it, so it's only you and your imagination.
One more time, I hope you don't get offenden, here, have a classic, unrealtead song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwJvgPJ9xw
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BattleLore: Command did the same thing, claiming it was 60% off throughout the Steam summer sale ($3.99 instead of $9.99). The day after sale ended, guess what the new full price is? $3.99. With a 50% coupon available from crafting to boot, for $1.99.
Devs playing the pricing game for sales amuses me.
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I don't see the problem. The sale likely improved the number of units they were shifting so they thought it was a good idea to reduce the price on a permanant basis in an attempt to continue to sell more than they were previously doing. They didn't make it cheaper than when it was on sale so it's not like anyone is out of pocket having bought it during the sale period.
Edit: I suppose I'd consider it a little shady if it was planned.
If it was just a case of them thinking "Wow, we're selling a lot more games now it's cheaper during this sale, perhaps our original price-point was wrong. Let's cut the base price and see how that goes." then that's ok with me.
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People will pull dick moves if they find out it gives them more money.
On the other hand, if the game's actually fun I wouldn't go for a refund - you still got better price than the new price after all
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Man, sometimes game's price drops. And always there'll be people who bought it just the previous day.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're attacking the dev, who's game didn't sold too well, so realized he have to lower the price, and did that after putting it on a sale? I seriously don't see where is this wrong.
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You were happy with the asking price at the time of purchase so even if you can get a refund it'd still be a dick move.
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Why would that be a dick move? I paid less than price which is now?
I actually was given refund a few hours back so you can call me a dick :p
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You should never buy Indie games if not in a bundle.
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propably you're right but i'm thinking that indie games are the best in matter of making GA's. In my oppinion it's good to point out to more people good not very well known games
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is this game really that bad, since developer lowering their price?
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I've played 30-40 minutes only. From what i was playing, hiis game had some technical issues like lights artifacts. It didn't crash.
Gameplay is simple and rather easy, shoot bad guys, save women (saving means killing all bad guys withougt killing them)
It has fun features like kamikaze chickens :) hope that just like on banner you can ride on pig later too.
Overall it was enjoyable 30 minutes.
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Wild Frontera was on -75% sale few days back and base price was 10€.
I bought 4 pack because game looked fun enough and i wanted it for future event on SG but now i see that game price is 5€.
I've played it a little (about 30min) and it was fun but seeing this i fell into rage. So I'm sending ticket for a refund.
I hate practices like this. Putting game on sale, we'll see how many will be sold and then two days later price change because sales on normal price are disappointing.
edit: ok, i add it here because many people say i'm bitching :) As a consumer i like straight rules, games costs X€ we make a sell of 60% of X€. Every product has it's life time so it has to drop, no arguing with that. I just don't like that price dropped day after sale because it means that you didn't bought product -60% but eg. -20%. Maybe i'm too oldschool but I like fair relatiionship on every level and i work all my life with people so I know how hard it is sometimes.
In my opinion changing price day after sail is wron and that's all. I won't mind if they make it few weeks later. Moreover bundles are totallyu different things because those are made a lot months in advance. Wrong can be if dev knows that they will have game in bundle in few days and agree with valve they will make discount two days before. That's just not honest and fair with client. Simple as that.
I don't even say about publishers who rise money day before sales and then make discount so it makes you feel you buy game cheaper but you pay exactly the same - that's just pure evil :)
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