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I did NOT posted this to argue about it. I posted this to warn others, if maybe someone else is clueless about vac ban.as I am.
But this is "GREAT and not toxic" comminity that your warning is somehow ends with a lot blacklist and arguing...
What was I thinking? warning others? that was a supid idea...

Steam decided to gave me a VAC ban, just because my son cheated in Counter-Strike: Source, that game is in my library I just shared with him.

They help pages says:
"Your Family Sharing privileges may be revoked and your account may also be VAC banned if your library is used by others to cheat. Additionally, VAC-banned games cannot be shared between accounts."

Maybe I understood to revoke my Family Sharing privileges, but WHY gave me a VAC ban? I did NOT cheated in online games ever.

Steam has a fucked up logic in this situation...

I think they can just revoke the sharing ability for that game or for a whole, and after that I can't share that game or any of my games to anyone. I think that is a reasonable punishment not a vac ban. I didn't cheat I just shared my library with the wrong person.

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Do you agee to punish the library owner with VAC ban if the owner shares a game with someone and he/she is cheats?

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That's not new, and a reason not to ever share.

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sadly I didn't know that...

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I don't agree with this, but you have to see the bigger picture .. I believe this is done to combat cheating in Steam most played games which are their own (CS:GO, Dota 2 .. etc)

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I understand why gave VAC ban to my son. But why gave me?

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As I said to combat cheating:
A cheater could buy CSGO and use family share with a steam account they created so they can cheat > if they get busted; without that rule in OP they could just keep creating new accounts and family share the game with them
But thanks to that rule the main account that owns the VAC secured game will get a vac ban and so when they family share the new accounts won't be able to play in vac secured servers/games

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That's why I said I understood if they revoke my family sharing prvilege

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Most games on Steam are not VAC secured and so they still can be shared after getting a VAC ban .. VAC ban only affect Vac secured games or games with VAC secured servers.
We could argue for hours, but hey non of us here put that rule .. it is something that Valve did

I know you probably are so frustrated by that vac ban you got .. I don't mean any offense by my question but do you play mostly vac secured games ? or only frustrated because the ac ban on the profile looks like a mark of shame ?

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The second one. Not the shame. But here in this community the VAC ban punsishes you. A lot of gift rules excludes you if you have a VAC ban. Mostly that's why I'm frustrated.

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Oh
Somehow I totally forgot about that, don't know what to say ..

Maybe someone with a similar situation will come and share their experience .. how bad VAC ban hurt their chances here in SG.

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Because due to how family sharing works, you could potentially share your library to infinite amount of accounts. You are the one that owns the game license, so you are the one that gets banned if anyone you share it to abuses it.

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Like I said, then revoke my family sharing, why gave me a VAC ban? I'm not playing theese games...
The family sharing is still active...

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Because those are the rules about you using the family sharing feature for the Steam account you made. You are given the VAC ban because you are the owner of the game license that was used to cheat in the game. It doesn't matter if you play it personally or not. You have given the right to someone else to be able to play with your game license, so you are the one held responsible.
Yes, you can still use family sharing despite the VAC ban.

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If you weren't planning on playing those games, wouldn't it have been a safer bet to just buy it as a gift for your son? Then you wouldn't have been held responsible.

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When you share your car with a family member or friend and they get a ticket, who is legally obligated to pay it?

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They don't know it's your son who cheated. This could be exploited by cheaters who would buy a game on one account and cheat on another account with shared games set up just for cheating. So, if they just banned cheatering account, cheaters could make a new one and share the games from the clean account and cheat again. It's maybe not very fair that you got banned but you should keep an eye for people whom you share games with.

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that! +1

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Because you can create 2 accounts, share the game and cheat with the other account. You said it was your son but it could also possibly be you doing that. Not saying it was, but Valve is making sure people don't do that over and over again. Banning the original account is a precaution. A justifiable one.

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It's always ''my son, my cousin'' etc.

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What the reason to me, to be upset if I cheated? And don't you think if I cheat then I clearly know the rules of VAC ban?

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Cheaters are all the time upset about it though. Not saying You did it, just pointing out that a lot of them are straight up outraged by it as a first reaction to maintain the facade of being unjustly banned, denying and coming up with cheap lies, so its understandable if Valve does not care about this excuse as many try exactly this reasoning to beg for rising and/or avoiding the ban.
There is not much to do other than talking to your son about it in a clear but understanding manner that this was not a nice thing to do. Steam is not to blame here.

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Again, I don't blame Steam to VAC ban him. Do it! He is cheated => he deserves.
I'm glady accept if Steam decides to revoke my family sharing.

But this? What is the reason, to VAC ban me, and keep my family sharing?
If I was cheating from another account, than I can do it again now... So what was the point VAC ban me?

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Is not it because its technically your copy of the game? I mean, you "just" shared it, true, but your are the main owner, your son just "borrowed" it so to speak. When he uses that copy, the game with the same key is being used, is not that right? He cheated so he had to be banned but since the product he used is the same copy, it affects you too. Is it working maybe on a product-basis, rather then user one?
Keeping family share is rather logical as you can share singleplayer games too and why restrict that when in SP you cant break community rules?

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If I know correctly tha ban is on the account not on the game copy. If it was on the game copy, then you can clear your ban buy the game again not?

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To my knowledge steam does not let you buy a game again that you already own.

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Maybe doable, with supports help if I remember correctly you can remove games from your library.
After that I don't know you can buy it again or not, but I think if you buy it again tha VAC stays, because tha ban is on your account not your game.

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The family sharing block would be the more severe punishment and would likely still come with a VAC ban. That's just the way it works. So if you accumulated a few VAC bans via family sharing, they'd probably revoke that privilege altogether. It's not a one or the other. You would get both at the same time if they felt this was a continuous thing.

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You should blame yourself for sharing account with your cheater son. Plus you don't need to know VAC rules if your a not cheater so stop blaming anyone other than your son!

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vac banning me is a steam decision not my son's. What happened to him that was his fault. waht happened to me I think is steam's fault.

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LOL you still don't get it. Just look the situation from the different perspective.

You shared your library with others than this guy used cheats and steam did not reward you with VAC. REPEAT!

Congratz you abuse VAC to enjoy your cheated games.

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you don't get it.
They does not stopped anything this way,
They can stop this by revoke my family sharing privilige, not VAC ban me,
VAC ban means I cannot play this game with my account.
But the share stays. So what was the point the VAC ban again?

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Cheaters should not be forgiven.

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I agree, but I didn't cheat...

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Would you say that if you let your son use your account directly and he cheated and got your account directly VAC banned?

When you family share from your account, you should look at it similarly to letting someone else use your account (at least for purposes of VAC bans). If that is not clear when you set up family sharing, I think it should be.

You should be fully informed on what it means to "family share" before you do it. This rule alone probably prevents many people from sharing with people. I wish there was an option that allowed you to specify the individual games you want to share with each family member, then you could exclude games that can potentially give you a VAC ban.

Essentially, I think you are asking to get rid of the 1-strike rule, no second chances, and I don't know the history of VAC and if they ever let you get away with it the first time, but the current rule is 1 strike and you're out, so that's the rule we must all live with.

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And the classic, "my little brother"

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As a little brother I can tell you that sometimes I messed up my elder brothers things and programs...

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hello,

pls unban my son,

sincerely, the father

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no, you can cry in forums.

-gN

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thats what you get for being stupid and sharing your account with others
you gave a game to a cheater to harass others online
enjoy the ban

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So I'm stupid because I shared my library with my family using a feature that's clearly invented for this?

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yes you are stupid for allowing your son that cant play video games without hacks to do that with a game tied to your account

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And no, I didn't gave him to cheat...

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Are you having a bad day? Got out of bed on the wrong foot? Your cat disappeared, your wife cheated on you, your neighbour shouted at you?
I don't see any other reason why you would post such a mean comment.

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ive played many games plagued by hackers and quit because of them
no mercy for the wicked

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No Mercy? Darn. 😔

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i didn't even know sharing your library was a thing - and i don't agree it should be, just buy your own games

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This community does not exists because people think this way. As your profile says, you don't think this way...
Why gave you 239 gift if you think everyone should buy they own games?

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i meant on their own account giving away games/dlc is completely different i like to giveaway games and make giveaways but i would never let someone touch my account - maybe the most i have done is letting my son use it while in the same room or something but never just give them complete access and 100% no on games with cheating software in it

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I didn't share my account... I shared my library.
That's means, when I'm not playing any of my games, then they (I shared my library with my every child) can play games from my library.
They cannot use my account.

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would have been better just to buy them their own copy of the games safer and easier

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I didn't know this can be happened, so when I decided to share that's was the best decision, because why to buy something twice or more if you can share?

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Instead of giving a VAC ban to the account not cheating, I think it would be better if Steam just didn't allow family sharing of VAC secured games. They can either not allow anyone to share VAC secured games or do it on an account by account basis after they are caught once, I would be fine with either way.

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Even better is to let the sharer decide what games they want to share with each person, with the ability to exclude all VAC secured games.

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It's unfortunate that you got hit by the ban, but I think the real concern here is that your son chose to cheat in an online game. You should probably have a talk with him about the consequences of that. Look at the bright side of it. Perfect life lesson moment. Actions have consequences. Even unforeseen ones to people who aren't directly involved.

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Not so perfect, but yes, lesson learned on both sides...

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But in his case, permanent..

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Can we block certain games from sharing?

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Far as I know that's not possible.

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yes you can. just right click the game in your library and then remove from family sharing.

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oh thx for the info, than I just to crawl over 1000 game and unshare the VAC related. :/

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I can't find this option, and in the FAQ it says:
Q: Can I share specific games, or do I have to share my whole library?
A: Libraries are shared and borrowed in their entirety.

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Yes, that was my understanding, you share the whole library. That is why I never share with anyone. It would be great if I could choose which games I want to share with each family member. It could also act as an age restriction separate for each child.

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if you right click a game in your library, then manage, then there is an option remove from family library. its in german for me so the translation could be different but there isnt many options anyway.

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I don't have that option - and as you say, there aren't that many options, so I'm not missing some strange translation :)

I have googled a little, and it seems you have to set up Family View on the account you want to limit, and on that account you can then choose to hide some games. Maybe I'll take a look at that at some point...

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I think that's completely unfair. The VAC should only apply on the account that cheated. At least for a first time occurrence. On repeated violations within family sharing.. the VAC should spread to the original account holder.

And then the parent should have a sit-down with the child and explain that cheating is a shitty way to go about life ;-)

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the TALK happened already.

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Heheh 👍

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This is how this thing handled by valve all the time.
Ofc, if you wish, you could try a lawsuit against valve, theoretically you could win if you not from USA, where law worth nothing against eula, but you could have a chance in EU, if you have the money for this pointless lawsuit lol.
After all, if you lend a... lets say frying pan, to your neighbour, and he/she killing someone with that, then you not going to be jailed (unless they trace it back to you instead of your neighbour because your fingerprints on it:-D).

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I don't want a lawsuit, the problem not so big. I just posted this to warn others, not to arguing over it...
But this is "GREAT and not toxic" comminity that your warning is somehow ends with a lot blacklist and arguing...
What was I thinking? warning others? that was a supid idea...

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Why you see it as a problem if you get blacklisted? Blacklisting is retroactive, so they can't enter your giveaways either. It is actually a good thing, because that way you have better chances that your games will be won by civilized, tolerant, nonhater humans:-)

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I agree with you.

And in six months probably half of those blacklist will dissapear cause people often clear their list ;3

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I can say from own, and long, experiences that nearly none clear their blacklists after months or years.

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My blacklist is empty. ;)

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For 17 GA's is a BL not really needed.... ;o)

You will think, most likely, different about it when you made 500.

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I am not nearly rich enough to make 500 GA's. XD

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You own 1k games... so of course you are rich enough to make 500 GA's.

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If he made 500 giveaways of the same quality he already has ($352 is about $20.70 CV per giveaway), he'd have well over $10,000 CV right now.

By your own logic - you own 6k games, so of course you are rich enough to make $60,000 dollars (CV) in giveaways.

Isn't math fun? :3

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I think this is unfair to have such a system, cause the sharer become the victims of the cheaters.

But that's also fair in another way: Now he can't cheat using both your account and his, which would force him to make another account to buy the game. It's very effective to prevent cheaters from cheating and keep the community safer (at least for people that don't have the funds for buying new copies at each bans).

I'm sorry for you, still, a VAC ban is not the end of the world: you can still play games that have no VAC security, and on unprotected servers as well. (And VAC bans don't last forever, from what I know at least).

Maybe that's the occasion of trying local coop games with your son, it could teach him about caring for his mates and winning with the others instead of against them.

Still, I wish you the best ;3

(Btw I'm thankful for your post cause I didn't know it was a thing honnestly)

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VAC bans don't last forever

They do.

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For the public eye a vac ban will disappear after 7 years. But yeah its always there for the owner of it to see. Even if people cant see it you are forever cursed

I don't really play on vac servers but I don't see it being fun being stuck on a server of cheaters, if you really are banned from like a mistake. I kinda do wanna see that though, I don't think I'd ever be able to recognise a cheater but now I kinda wanna just see a team game and see a bunch of them clash together. Like who has the better cheats! Will it just go on forever

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Damn I always thought it was gone after a while. (Since it dissapeared from accounts)
It's really weird for steam to make people pay a lifetime sentence for that kind of misconduct.
If you were a kid and you cheated once you are doomed for life... That's kind of horrible :/ (I'm not even mentionning the father here)

Fortunately all unprotected servers are not always full of cheaters. But yes, for those who are, you can't play.

About family sharing tho I just saw in my own settings that you can choose what games (including dlc) you can share. Maybe that could be a solution for avoiding any friend or family playing games that could be "problematic".
Unfortunately it all comes too late for OP :/

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yeah I never knew you could do that, I just found it wow. I'm normally the one benefitting though so its never came up in my mind to restrict games.

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Doesn't make much sense to say that you don't want people to argue about it if you put "Steam has a fucked up logic in this situation..." - that is your opinion on it, and then you expect people to not express theirs. Not to mention you added a poll to this, which literally is asking people what they think about it.

There's a lot of conflicting stuff in your post.

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Yes, you are right

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It doesnt make sense to work as you'd like, only revoke the family sharing or ban your son's account. If it was like that, a cheater would just keep making new accounts to be banned and family sharing them with the main account holding the license. Just revoking dont really get anybody penalized, somebody needs to assume the responsability for it.

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If steam prohibit the sharing then this behavioral can be stopped.

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People are never satisfied. I believe it's actually the fairest way Valve has to stop cheating in these circumstances. Bet if it was the other way around, if Valve had prohibited you from sharing your games instead of giving you Vac ban, you'd be complaining still. Then the problem would be that now you all have to spend money to buy X copies of games. Then you'd wish you had gotten the ban and still keep sharing the games. Punishments are never fun and people always wish they got a different one.

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if you want to see how much valve cares about cheating go play TF2.
riddled with aimbots for the last 2 years that join faster than players can kick them and slowing down the vote kick system by abusing it, cause only 1 vote can be had at a time

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Seems like you can get a VAC ban on your account if somebody cheats on a completely different account (not necessarily family-sharing) but it's linked to the same phone number as yours:

"How do VAC bans relate to phone numbers?
VAC bans are applied to all accounts sharing a phone number at the time of the infraction. For this (and many other) reasons we do not recommend sharing your phone number or using another user's phone number on your Steam account. Accounts sharing the phone number that do not own the game the VAC ban is for will still receive a VAC ban and will not be able to purchase the game moving forward."

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Phone numbers used for 2FA so its more reasonable, than in family sharing feature.

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Vac banned your account because it was your account which enabled a cheat on a Vac enabled server. It's your account so it's your responsibilty to make sure that no one uses the account in a way which goes against the rules of Steam. As it's your responsibilty and the cheat was enabled on your account then it's your account which gets Vac banned. They can't ban the person who used the cheat as it's impossible to prove who was playing at the time, thus why it's the account which used the cheat that recieves the ban.

If it was me and I used the same PC as my son then I would also uninstall Steam, clean the registry the best you can and remove all tracers of the cheat used, Ideally I'd format my PC to make sure that the cheat is fully removed from my Steam. This is because now days all Steam accounts are in the same folder, whereas before they were seperate and it wouldn't impact other accounts on the same PC if one account cheated. Also any accounts which are linked by the same phone number could also recieve a Vac ban on the other accounts.

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He used his own account not mine. He just used my library

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He was using the game in your library, that means he was using YOUR account.

Because he used the cheat on a game in your library (your account) it is your account which has registrated the cheat on and thus it's your account which recieved the ban.

You allowed them access to play the game, so it's your responsibilty to maintain your account.

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Yes I allowed them, so punish me a different way, not call me a cheater...

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It's not calling you a cheat, just that a cheat was found and used on your account. Vac is automatic, it cant distinguish who used the cheat only which account it was used on. Sadly it was your account the cheat was used on.

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Its really nothing new, you may not like it but thats how famly sharing works. You should know that (or at least checked) before you shared your account with your son. Also you should have talked with your son about cheating in online games before he started playing online. Maybe then you would be in the situaton you are right now. All Steam/Valve did here was to exact rules they put in place.

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If you land your car to a family memeber, you tell them to not break any law, when driving your car?
And you are perfectly clear whar are the punishments by law occurs when you don't obey the law when you drive a car?

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No, but if they need a car they must have a driver's licence and to get one you need to finish the drivers course of some kind to get one where you learn how to drive and what laws you need to folow on the road. Also the punishment was clear in this case : "Family Sharing privileges may be revoked and your account may also be VAC banned ", as you can see it says you may be VAC banned and you were. I not sure but i think it is worded like that because not all games are VAC protected. So for those that arent only first part applies and for those that are whole thing applies.

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A quite fitting example, IMO. How about the Australian law in light of which:

A vehicle can still be clamped or confiscated even if the driver doesn't own the vehicle, such as when you borrow someone else's vehicle. However, if the vehicle isn't yours, the Police must notify the registered owner that the vehicle has been clamped or confiscated, as soon as is reasonably practicable. They must do this in writing.

Fortunately, we are not talking about a confiscated car here, but just some virtual pretty insignificant punishment. Good, that you've talked with your son, but I think, you should really be concerned more about finding ways to be able to convince him long term, that cheating is not a way to go, than fretting about this VAC ban being or not being justified. Actually, wasn't it a very cheap way to learn something crucial about your child?

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There's a reason they do this and it's a really, really GOOD reason. You might not agree with it, but it's there to protect the integrity of Steam VAC system as a whole. Of course it doesn't stop all cheating, but it's gonna stem the tide. Say I'm a bad actor and I want to cheat in a game that I own, but don't want to risk my account. I could create a new account and family share the game to that account. Now if I am caught, I can say that my sibling or child cheated and not me. There are plenty of people out there who would use that to get around the system.

To be clear, I am not saying that you cheated yourself, but it's something that everyone should be aware of. Common sense would tell you that this would happen if someone linked to your account cheated. I allow my little cousin to play PG games via family sharing when supervised by his Dad (my uncle). Honestly, if he was an older child, I wouldn't allow it because he obviously doesn't live here, so I couldn't warn him or have control over him cheating in MP games.

If you have teenage children, you should buy them a copy of whatever multiplayer game it is on an account separate to yours. If they cheat only once, you might have some comeback for your own account that is on the same IP. (Maybe not now since you already have 1 VAC ban). But you should warn them about cheating and threaten to revoke their gaming privileges, or restrict their internet access big time if they do this and get you banned. You can put the foot down on these things to ensure that it doesn't happen again. He's your kid, and unfortunately, the responsibilty for it falls on you.

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Like I said they can just revoke the sharing ability for that game or for a whole, and after that I can't share that gaem or any of my games to anyone. I think that is a reasonable punishment not tha vac ban. I did'nt cheat I just shared my library with the wrong person.

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That would mean that you could get to cheat twice per account. First by sharing the game and then on original account. With this you can only do it once per copy of game.

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I agree with Ekaros. They're just not going to deal with you twice. Even if your story is true, they've heard literally 1000s of people telling the exact same story and most of them are lies.

Revoking of family sharing for one offense may seem like a reasonable punishment to you, but I would see that very differently. That's actually a very severe punishment if one actually cares about sharing their library with other members of their household. A VAC ban isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Its a mark on your account for sure, but it's just one game.

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I don't see any mention about what happened with your son. I hope you'll teach him that cheating is bad.

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Hello sa4zet,

as you obiously know some stuff about steam, why didn't you tell your son to start this game from is own account as it is free to play?
You did not cheat, I got it, but you are jointly responsible for the things happening if you use family sharing.

I agree that a vac ban in the own account might be too much, maybe free to play games should be banned in gerneral for family sharing which seems to be senseless for me.

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He did NOT use my account. He use his own account but used my library.
Counter-Strike: Source is not free.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/240/CounterStrike_Source/

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I got that that he used his own account.
I got the wrong game sorry. I had CS GO in my head.

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It's probably a totally useless suggestion, but try their support, maybe they are lenient?

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they clearly stated in this:

Steam Support is unable to remove any VAC Bans from your account. We have a zero tolerance policy on cheating. Even if the ban was the result of hijacked or shared account. You are responsible for the security of your account.

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And yet, Steam is quite able to remove a VAC Ban if they want to...
https://win.gg/news/valve-has-removed-fnatic-krimzs-vac-ban-esportal-blamed/

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I get your frustration, but you should never trust kids with freedom in online platforms in the current society we live in. This was to be expected... Everything around you is a trap waiting for you to take the bait, for the most part.

I've had 3 similar experiences, well not 3, but 2 were involving me as a kid growing up, 3rd one i was in a passive position (one of my nephews spent around 4k € in ingame purchases around a year ago, doesn't impact me directly but it is an example). It is thanks to these experiences that i grew awareness while growing up as a kid, one of them involved trust (got hacked 3 times in runescape, once by a friend from school, second time i have no clue who did it, third time i got scammed my login details by an ingame friend i knew for some years that had helped me a few times in the game as free players, dude literally robbed me blind by saying he could give me membership in the game for 1 month if i gave him my login details, since he became a membership recently and he had helped me with the game multiple times before, along with the fact i was like 11 or 12 at the time, i literally dived in and regretted it shortly afterwards, i used to avoid all sorts of scams in that game, but when you think you can trust someone with something but that someone has intentions of screwing you over, yeah...).
Then got another experience involving 2 friends IRL with sharing my original steam account, long story short, i have an old main account i stopped using since i got this one, i shared that account with 2 friends, one of them bought orange box for the account, 3rd friend simply played from time to time when account was available to use. This 3rd user got the account VAC banned for using cheats in counter strike source, then proceeds to put the blame on his cousin (????). These same friends also played runescape with me, with the same guy that got the steam account banned going through the effort of buying accounts online and getting himself scammed in the process, because he didn't want to grind levels in runescape. Dude keeps doing shady stuff even as an adult, not the type of person you should be trusting, despite being a friend. Dude clearly lacks awareness of the risks of what he does online. Not to mention, he also added me across 2 or 3 different steam accounts after i recovered my old account and limited it to myself only (i don't use it, but it saddens me that it got VAC'd and then hacked by someone, it had nothing to steal since it was an old account so the hacker got nothing from the account). The user that bought orange box for my old account, he is the direct opposite of the other user, can be trusted with alot of things, yet, i wouldn't dare risk sharing something i would regret loosing one day. I did share my old steam account because i was using this one, and made this one my new main account.

I know account sharing is not legal for the most part, but back then, this kind of stuff was common. As time went on, we learn and adapt. I'm just glad i got these experiences sooner than later. I would hate having to share anything and get punished for the bad behaviour of someone else.

Account sharing is still a common thing today, playstation accounts can be shared across 2 consoles to share licenses and subscriptions, making it cost effective if 2 people can trust each other or 1 who buys stuff shares things for free to another user with no additional costs (basically a freeloader). Xbox takes this to a whole new level, being able to share your stuff across multiple accounts in a family circle on pc and on 2 (or 3) xbox consoles i think. The big problem with these systems is that they force you to share login details to make these "share moments" possible. When it could all be simplified by having temporary codes generated, that you give to another user, so he can get access to the stuff you own, without having to login to your account. Something that could be more simplified and much safer. Setting up account sharing on pc using xbox stuff can be a big pain in the ass sometimes, it's almost as if, they do not want people to use these things and make them a bit too risky to do aswell.

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you can have more than one account...so vac ban for family sharing is understandable

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It's indeed a bit of collective punishment to VAC ban you both instead of taking your family-sharing privileges away and only VAC banning your son. But I don't think Valve can't be sure you're not the owner of both accounts, so they did it this way.

That being said, there might be a good family lesson in this.

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I kinda remember that some years ago CS-GO was only playable on the main account, never thought Source allowed this. Guess your son will never cheat again on a videogame.

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Guess your son will never cheat again on a multiplayer videogame.

Fixed it for you. Because there's nothing wrong with cheating in singleplayer games.

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