Today, June 19th, is my 18th Birthday. That means I'm now allowed to do a lot of things, such as send nudes, smoke, and vote. And none of that is worth it. As an adult, I have to accept the world doesn't revolve around me, and it's I can just create on that does, right.

Some things about this train.

  • The levels are totally stupid because i'm going for sg 'cheivements
  • You have to watch a stupid video and hear my awful voice because I want bot protection without sgtools
  • Probably some other shit that I can't remember
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I tried making an image for those who don't want to use YouTube, but imgur is being annoying right now. I'll try again later.

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don't want to use YouTube,

Or those of us who can't.. :(

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Well it's up now.

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My poor eyes..

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Hey, happy birthday TreeB! Heard much worse voices than yours :D
Edit: Forgot the pack of kitties, sry
Are you allowed to drink alcohol in your state now?

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I would need to be 21 for that.

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If you mean the united states, no states have had legal drinking age below 21 since 1984, though some states are more lax in enforcing the matter, and certain exceptions do apply.

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Really? I thought some states were 19 or something... I am Canadian, so I have been (legally) drinking since I was.... 18 or 19.

The US is weird.

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International drinking age [eg, what applies when over international waters] is 18, and that seems to be the most common application (though many places allow you to drink at 16- eg, France, Germany).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age
The violet and red portions of the map on that page are places with >18 drinking ages. If you look at just the dark red for 21+ and 25+, America does stand out as a truly rare aberration in its restrictiveness.

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In Egypt most of my friends drink vodka and beer and they are 14
It's illegal here but it's easy not to get caught

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It's actually kinda an ugly affair right now:
https://aclu-wa.org/blog/sexting-and-law-press-send-turn-teenagers-registered-sex-offenders

tl;dr, anyone involved in underage sexting (even, say, if both members of an involved couple are 17 years old) is treated as a felon involved in child pornography.

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It's not illegal unless the picks are in a sexual context, but peoples standards for that vary greatly.

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That's, to the best of my knowledge, false. They have to validate the image or distribution as being exploitative for it to fall under child abuse or pornography laws.
However, if the child is old enough to decide for themselves, then it'd be exploitative to make the decision to post for them.

Of course, if there's any way for someone to interpret it as exploitative or sexual, however mildly, then you could get in trouble, regardless of the truth of it (as described in my post below).

As far as your scenario, it seems highly unlikely to get the parents in trouble.

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Well, your link is about South Africa- I can't attest to their laws. :P

At the moment, as far as I'm aware, you can only sue your parents over that in France- I haven't heard any mention of that being allowed elsewhere.

It's certainly not the case in the us, where in many ways children are still treated like property, statues of limitations are often very generous toward transgressors, and the legal system is a corruption-filled train-wreck where justice and fairness are all too rarely primary considerations.

( Though, the inability to sue over your nude baby photos doesn't seem worth the phrasing above- it seems a frivolous, absurd thing to me, based fully on ridiculous social concepts that naked bodies are something to not only be concerned over, but to be ashamed or disgusted by.
Rather, they ought be suing for their parents not teaching them better about that. :X )

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It's not illegal for medical, scientific, artistic, religious, personal [eg, charting growth or nudist photos]/etc purposes, so long as no exploitation of the child or sexually-related distribution take place. [Note, child abuse laws also protect here.]
More specifically, child pornography legally only covers images relating to "sexually explicit conduct". Any non-sexual/non-exploitative photos would be legal.
In extension of that, selfies which don't have a clearly sexualized presentation would actually be fully legal.

. ..well, that's the concept, and how it ought work in theory.
In practice, basically any sort of transgression is risking legal action, namely due to puritan standards toward what is 'sexually explicit conduct' (tl;dr, anything) and a desire to punish kids for being sexually active.

similarly, any art of a fictional minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct would earn you up to 5 years in prison. Or rather, any art of characters "who appear to be under 18". Considering how many westerners [who are not particularly familiar with anime or Japanese stylization] think all anime/manga characters look underage, and the fact that the same "if those in power say it is something, then that's what it is" rule above applies here..

Well, this article is actually why I'm familiar with that nuance- and while it may or may not have been a misinterpretation of age in that circumstance, it did lead to a lot of realizations floating around about how much free reign there is for those enforcing the topic to define things as they see fit.

Interestingly, this all theoretically applies even if you drew the art yourself- for example, david Willis does sexual sidestories for his college webcomic.
Currently, if anyone considers the characters to "look underage," or if Willis himself says one is "only 17", then it'd be a violation of the current implementation of the law [and distribution charges, as well, presumably.]

Of course, going after a successful and well-known author, linked deeply into the convention community..
The legal status of censoring art without secondary basis is.. well, the one person sentenced solely off owning sexualized art got a 6 month plea deal with no further repercussions, because prosecution was worried about the constitutionality of the matter :P
There may be a reason (other than a lack of paying any mind to webcomics) that they don't attempt to take on someone with the actual ability to fight back. [Much like how the RIAA enjoyed picking on teens and preteens, I suppose.]

so in that sense the "I say it's underage, so it is" may become irrelevant in time, as soon as the free speech angle is pushed.
As far as sexting, however, I haven't heard of any progression toward formalizing what is and isn't "sexually explicit conduct," or to make sure the laws are changed to only punish those exploiting or abusing/etc minors, rather than dramatically punishing any teen that whimsically wants to show off their body to someone else.

tl;dr Ignoring any considerations on the topic matter itself, or views of how people "ought" to behave in regards to their own body or artistic expression, current implementation does not match the spirit of the law, or even constitutional expectations
As such any sort of nude photo of a minor or sexual art where the involved characters are not clearly adults will likely cause you problems to possess, regardless of context.

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Happy birthday! Everything will be better from now on. Totally not lying...

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Thank you! :/

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Tree! Happy birthday bro!

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Can we cut you down and count the rings?

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:(

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Happy birthday!

Make sure noone will try to count the years. The other tree regretted to let those trolls know about it... Seems like they got their proof.

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:o

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Happy Birthday!

Your voice isn't awful.
I have to pitch shift my voice down an octave bc mics just want to make it absurdly high ;_;

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I have a mic that makes my voice sound better, but I didn't use it because it also makes it really low, which I don't like, and I'm lazy and didn't want to set it up.

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Well, happy birthday Treeb!
Being an adult is not that different, nudes are legal (except if you send them to a minor, yep, now it works in reverse), smoking still kills (seriously, don't) and voting becomes a robotic action that you do because you must as soon as you do it for the second time.

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I can buy a gun now, but other than that, no not really. Thanks!

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And for what would you buy a gun? They're pretty much useless except if you're into them or something.

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Happy bday.

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Thank you!

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Happy Birthday TreeB!

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Happy birthday, everything goes downhill from here on out :D

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I want to thank you without saying thanks. Have a gif.

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MFW I talk to someone who hasn't brushed their teeth

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Happy Birthday!!

I actually thought you were much older XD
And your voice sounds totally normal to me. :)

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Thank you :)

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Birthday bump.

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thank you.

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You have such a mature sounding voice. I was surprised. Happy Birthday, shitposter!

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Thank you!

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bump

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Happy birthday, TreeB :D I like the video, well done~ ;D

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Welcome to the adult world.

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look at the stuff you make me do

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Outgif me in my own thread?

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where is the train and the code that you put in?

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I n the video, video description and here

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Your voice is really good. You don't want to hear me in english. It is so disgusting. And by the way I'm major too, have no intention of drinking, voting is meh( I do it as civil duty) and own a car just to go to school/work as I would be unable to do it where I live without a car. For my birthday, I did nothing XD. Not even scratch card or any kind of lotto. But welcome in the adult world! And happy birthday!

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Yeah, I filled out some paper work and bought stuff, being an adult ain't that exciting
Thanks!

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Happy birthday.

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Thanks :)

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10/10 soothing voice, would let read me a bedtime story.
Happy birthday!

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I'm not thanking you. I still remember you killing me in the hunger games.

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I was killing you softly.

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happy BD!

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In traditional, ancient Hungarian religion there is a Life-tree in the middle of the world that connects the underworld, the world of the living and the overworld, and shamans can travel through it. If you find the good religion, you can still be the centre of the world :D

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Or I could be the tree of souls from Avatar. Neon-ish lights are dope.

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Closed 9 years ago by EzraTheEmoDuchess.