Steam is learning about this game (Valve's newest action against "fake games")

I suppose we can only wait and see how people react and use this new system, whether they actually use it to clean up the store front or to try and continue to exploit it.

But this being the internet... i dont have much faith in this system working, it'll just turn into greenlight 2.0

Yes, this is the only real reason behind their "we allow anything" policy. Not free speech or a free market. If Washington would tell them that okay, whatever amount they ask as a Steam Direct fee is now 100% taxed, Valve would become the most-censored digital video game store in the universe.
But right now, each asset flip is free 100 dollars for no work at all. Their favourite kind of income.

So right about the time I joined Steam,... What are U really trying to say? Is it because I`m white?

That's not what I said, Mdk.
I'm wondering if they still would be counted as 'real games'. Not passing steam's confidence metric, and not being able to have full access to all the side benefits of being on the steam storefront (cards, coupons, achievements - presence in library, even) would still be a kind of black mark against a game that would inconvenience the devs even if it remains unchanged to players, especially people who don't care about the side shit.

Since the change isn't retroactive (I don't think), I'm keeping an eye on a few recently released indie titles in my wishlist and we'll see from there.

Seriously, Valve could allocate one employee which has one job to curate the store for crappy games, it's not that hard. Think about it, it takes maybe 5-10 mins to realize a game has zero substance or is an asset flip, times that buy 6-10 hours and you've kept tons of shit out of the store with minimal effort.

I think it would be good to kill those cards/achievements together with fake games, so it's altogether a good move. Sure a lot of people like them, but does anybody think they make for better games? Do we want games where gameplay matters or where the collection of virtual stuff matters?

Sure indies will hurt, because there's one less marketing tool they could use, but if what made people buy these games in the first place is cards and achievements, are we really benefiting from their success? And are the devs really benefiting from these? Sure devs want money, but more than this, like any artist, they want people to like what they've done, and actually play it.

true, but it needs more hipster added in to it, put a handlebar on that funny button, then we can talk.

magnificent!

but without the silly sod how do we get our wacky tobacky?

Steam is a store. It sells the product of others. Still waiting for an opinion because you did not answer the question. How will be goods sold at your store? And if you say that the store has to sell all goods others want to bring it there, why don't you apply the same stance on all stores you visit, why just Steam?

Because some people care about their game count, and will buy games just to increase it in competition, and that makes Valve money?

Is that too cynical? That might be too cynical.

Excuse me for being blunt but you do care and so you should. Steam clients account is set up in such a way that each time you buy a game it adds 1 to the game library count of the buying profile. My point was why have it setup this way from scratch if they then subsequently add rules which obfuscate the process many years later.

Library how many books do you have? dunno, no one is keeping count.

It does fall in the same category since it motivates people to buy trash games merely so they can increase a meaningless number. You obviously do care, I can tell since I truly don't care about my game count, and don't even know what it is. If you can play the game that's the important part, saying a game doesn't exist because it doesn't add to your count is just wrong.

Perhaps, like the achievements, it could be made private? So you would still see how many games you own, but it wouldn't increment your public game counter towards the game owning competition until the metrics have been met.

If I may inquire, what was it about Unepic? Because the Unepic I remember and played (stylized as UnEpic) was a pretty decent game actually, so what went wrong here?

https://twitter.com/zachtronics/status/949408278659792896

Sorry for the late reply, been a bit busy the past lil' bit.

The tl;dr version is that you are correct: The site will not recognize ownership and therefore treats newly launched games in the exact same way as dlc. You will therefore have to manually hide all new titles that you happen to own. However, staff will still be able to confirm activation/ownership of all affected games. So if you happen to win a game with this tag, we will still be able to check if you are in compliance with site rules and apply the appropriate suspension if needed.

When I first posted, it appears that the rollout of this change in policy was not fully completed. In the following days, this was applied retroactively to all games within Steam's catalogue to even include games that have been since delisted (e.g. Barbie and Her Sisters Puppy Rescue being one example). However, this retroactive change should not be too much of an issue considering that by their very nature, the amount of giveaways for these games should be close to nil.

Whether or not this will be corrected in anyway by cg, I cannot say. For the time being, treat all new releases as dlc and double check for ownership before entering a giveaway.

From a personal perspective, this change now makes a lot more sense. My gut assumption is that the minimum bar to overcome this new tag is rather low so long as the majority of purchases are done via the Steam storefront, which would be harder to estimate now that libraries are hidden by default. Hopefully Valve was smart enough to have one of the metrics being that no more than X% of qualifying purchases can be from a single region, but experience has me believing otherwise :/.

Who even buys those bundles any more? Cards were the only good reason to do so and now even the desperate +1 people have no reason to. If you want that 1 game with cards, just buy it for 5-10 cents instead of wasting 60 cents on the same game and 9 worthless craps that don't even give +1.

Sure, still doesn't change the fact that the game has at least 1 legit positive review.

Did you report all the games in the shop (with a link to the "fake writers search forums") ?
Normaly Valve/Steam don't like faked Reviews and take actions against such Developers after e report. My Reports were each time handled to my pleasure ;-D ... i don't think so the Devs would say the same giggling