DEATH/TORTURE/TERROR trigger warning!!!!!!

EDIT: I'm really not good at this, so my previous post was taken down for breaking a major rule about posting NSFW content. I apologize, and will try to create the same post without breaking the rules this time. All the forbidden links have now been redacted, but I still have all the originals as proof.

Hello, I'm Mdk.
I've been a member of this community since 2016, and some of you know me as the founder of the Quality Game Giveaways (QGG) group.

I've been struggling since last Saturday with the notion if I should start this post or not.
Similarly to the Ukraine awareness thread that was created with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, I felt this was an important topic to mention.
However, I don't have the skill to create a topic as deep and full of information as that one.
And was hoping someone else would do it.

I also personally try to stay away from politics.
This is why I didn't even post in the Ukraine awareness thread, despite having strong opinion about it, and even distant relatives still living in Ukraine.

However as no one else created a thread about this.
And I've seen another thread created, that tries to shift the focus/blame from this horrible event.
Therefore, I see no other choice than to create this thread.

It may not be as detailed and full of links as the other threads.
But I'll do my best.

WHAT HAPPENED

On October 7th 2023 took place one of the biggest terror attacks in history, second only to the 9/11 attacks in the US.
It happened on the 8th day of the the Jewish Sukkot holiday, called Simchat Torah (Joy of the Bible).
Over 1,300 civilians, first responders, policeman and army personnel were murdered. Over 3,000 were wounded.
360 more are still hospitalized in critical condition, and may yet increase the death toll.
Over 200 people were kidnapped, and are being held in inhumane conditions, without access to the outside world or even to the Red Cross.
This was the second deadliest terror attack in history.
Single deadliest terror attack in Israeli history.
A much deadlier terror attach than 9/11, relative to population size (US vs. Israel).
And biggest (by far) number of Jews killed in a single day, since the Holocaust.
Btw, not only Jews were targeted by terrorists. Over 40 Muslims (Arabs, Beduins and Druze) were killed. And members of many other religions and nationalities.

In a single settlement called "Be'ery", out of a total population of ~1000, over 100 people were killed.
According to eye witness reports:
40 children were murdered.
Some of them infants.
Some were decapitated.
In one case a pregnant woman's belly was cut open and the baby still had the ambilocal cord attached when both it and the mother were executed.
Some people were found handcuffed, executed and then their bodies set on fire
Others had their homes set on fire while they were inside, and burned alive.
Those who tried to exit their homes to escape the fire, were shot dead by Hamas death squads waiting outside for them.
Some were taken hostage, and it was broadcast live using their own phone to their friends and family on Facebook.
In other instances people were gunned down in the middle of the street, or in their cars trying to flee.

To further their cause of causing pain and suffering, many of the atrocities were broadcast live, or recorded and released almost real-time by the Hamas.
The entire country of Israel knew exactly what was happening in cities and towns in the south, as it was happening.

Those are just some examples of the atrocities committed on October 7th.
The Jewish people had not suffered such atrocities since the days of the Pogroms and the Holocaust.
This day was truly Israel's 9/11.

As much as this subject is emotional and close to my heart - I will try to remain factual and unbiased as much as I can.
All the information provided here will be backed by photographs, videos and eye witness reports.
These are just the things I found most important, there are x10 times more records and accounts out there, which you can find. And many more are being uncovered every day.
SDE NOTE: I will refer to all Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and representatives of other similar organizations simple as "Terrorists". For simplicity, and as this is how they are defined by the law in US, EU and Israel.

MISINFORMATION

To combat what they perceive as a PR disaster for them, the Hamas in recent days have stared to employ 2 tactics: Denial and Deflection.

DENIAL

Jews do not have the habit of flaunting the pictures of their dead - death is considered a very private matter (people do not have open-casket wakes).
So you would be hard pressed to find any photos of dead Jews/Israelis online.
Hamas has used this to spread misinformation and deny any wrongdoing ever happened.
Among their claims were: "The massacre in an Israeli propaganda, because there are no photographic/video evidence of what happened", Some facts got mangled up and mis-quoted in the media (for example a mis-quote that claimed "40 babies were decapitated") - so Hamas claimed they are proof that all of it is propaganda. In addition Hamas claimed that they were humane and disciplined - all the atrocities were perpetrated by civilian Palestinians not affiliated with Hamas.
However, as we live in the information age, nowadays everything is leaked online.
So you can now find not only eye witness accounts, but also photographic evidence of most if not all atrocities.

SERIOUS WARNING: The following evidence presented is mostly written or audio accounts. They are still very very triggering and disturbing, please beware

Inside towns/cities:

Leaked photos of babies/infants killed in the massacre
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Burnt body of a child
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Abusing dead bodies
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A nursery drenched in blood in Be'ery
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Blood soaked baby car seat
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A kid's room full of blood
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A container full of scorched/burned bodies
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Remains of a family burnt alive in their home
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Eye witness account about slaughtered and burned people
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/143

Another eye witness report of the atrocities
https://t.me/Israel_Report/8836

Yet another eye witness report of the atrocities
https://t.me/trufhabil/70

Reporter retelling eye witness account from soldiers that entered the town of Be'ery and saw the carnage ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/trufhabil/8

Another eyewitness testimony from the paramedics team handling the aftermath.
The terrorists placed the parents and 2 children (6 & 7) on their knees facing each other, with their hands tied behind their backs.
The terrorists proceeded to torturing them, cutting off limbs, gouging eyes out, etc. While eating the food the family had in their living room table.
Eventually executing the whole family (it's unclear if the parents were forced to watch their children executed, or the children forced to see the parents executed)
https://t.me/trufhabil/146

A typical house of a family. Everything filled with bullet holes and blood.
There are potty training seat and small backpacks, indicating small children lived there.
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People slaughtered at their homes
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A burned body of a woman.
On her hands parts of a plastic ziptie - which indicate she was tied.
The pose of hand protecting her face - indicates she was alive when she was burned.
Lack of underwear indicates it's possible she was raped.
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A group of women gunned down in the middle of the street
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A different group of women gunned down at a bus stop
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Decapitating a person while he's still alive (you can see him moving in the beginning of the video)
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This is Gina Semiatich, a 90 years old Holocaust survivor - https://ynet-pic1.yit.co.il/picserver5/crop_images/2023/10/11/HyYlbLEb6/HyYlbLEb6_0_218_961_540_0_x-large.jpg
On October 7th, Palestinian terrorists entered her home, dragged her from her room, forced her to stand on her knees, and shot her.
What Nazis could not do to her, terrorist did instead.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12636533/A-90-year-old-Holocaust-survivor-shot-head-little-boy-killed-fifth-birthday-Hamas-slaughtered-innocent-people-Israel-terror-attack.html

Two videos.
First video - Four women, including an elderly woman, are lead by terrorists, their hands are tied.
Second video - the bodies of the four women, with terrorists around them.
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A teenager tells how her grandmother was murdered, and then the terrorists took pictures of her body with her phone, and posted on Facebook. This is how she found out her grandmother was dead.
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/31

Eye witness report about a mother getting a message from her son's phone, where the terrorists murder her son and his girlfriend.
https://t.me/yigal_levin/57494

During an interview for Sky News, a woman receives news that her husband was murdered by Hamas.
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/36

Not even pets were spared
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Terrorist killing a dog and setting a house on fire
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The music festival in Be'ery:

Girl calling her family during the carnage, saying goodbye ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/trufhabil/33

Amount of bodies inside one of the tents of the music festival ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/trufhabil/45

Survivors from the music who were hiding in the bomb shelter, after terrorists shot inside and threw fragmentation grenades
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Famous video: A young girl crying out to her boyfriend, while they're both bring kidnapped from the music festival ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/trufhabil/11

A video from the music festival.
It starts with people dancing in the festival, and later shows the same people fleeing and hiding, some being wounded, while there is constant gunfire on them
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Eye witness report of the music festival aftermath ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/49

Birds eye view of the aftermath of the music festival massacre ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/48

Hamas terrorists circling above the music festival on paragliders ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/37

Kidnapped to Gaza:

A small child, alone, being kidnapped to Gaza ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/trufhabil/53

A kidnapped child, alone, being treated as a toy in Gaza ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/trufhabil/14

Terrorists playing around (in full military gear) with kidnapped infants ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/Israel_Report/8830

A half naked body of a young girl kidnapoed from the festival. Her body is spit on and abused.
Later it was revealed she was a French national, in response Hamas claimed that they found her like this and were taking her to the hospital, where she is currently being treated. But provided no evidence of this.
You can watch the video and decide for yourself if you believe their version of events.
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A young woman being kidnapped to Gaza. She is beaten and pulled by her hair. Her hands are bound.
She has a large blood stain on her pants and blood is running down her leg. Some speculate this may be due to rape.
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Several kidnapped young women in a car guarded by armed terrorists
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Photos of some of the kidnapped from inside Gaza ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/133

A kidnapped mother with her 2 children ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/107

Faces/Ages of some of the kidnapped children
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/167

Elderly woman being abducted ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/88

An elderly woman abducted into Gaza ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/21

A terrorist posing with a kidnapped elderly woman ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/10

Kidnapped men being abused on their way to Gaza ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/98

A man being abused while kidnapped to Gaza ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/18

A group of men kidnapped into Gaza, the kidnappers treat them as if they were cattle ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/16

A kidnapped young man in his pajamas being abused while paraded in Gaza ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/11

A family being held hostage at gunpoint.
The small children are in shock as their older sister (18) was killed earlier (off camera).
The video was livestreamed on FB, using their own phone, to all their friends and family.
The family later disappeared, and were presumably kidnapped to Gaza. ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/93

Another family held at gunpoint, while it's being livestreamed on FB from their phone.
The son is later forced to go around the neighbors houses and call them to come outside. (According to eye witness reports, people who went outside were immediately shot by terrorists)
The family later disappeared, and were presumably kidnapped to Gaza. ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/82

A father saying he was relieved when he heard that his 8 years old daughter was killed and not kidnapped, because death is better than what they would do to her. ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/trufhabil/112

Ruth Peretz, a 16 year old girl with Cerebral Palsy that was kidnapped into Gaza
https://t.me/Israel_Report/9236
Update: The body of Ruth Peretz, the 16 year old girl with the Cerebral Palsy, and her father have been discovered. Confirming they are dead and not kidnapped.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/378760

The body of Noya Dan, a 12 year old autistic girl, who was a Harry Potter fan JK Rowling tweeted about a few days ago, has been discovered. It was initially thought she was kidnapped, but now her death has been confirmed.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/12-year-old-harry-potter-fan-championed-by-j-k-rowling-found-murdered-by-hamas/

DEFLECTION

Another way of Hamas trying to shift the blame, has been deflection from themselves into both the Palestinians and Israelis as the ones to blame.
They claimed that all the atrocities were perpetrated by civilians unaffiliated with Hamas. And were completely improvised/unplanned.
They also claimed that the atrocities were actually Israel's fault, because they way Israelis treat the Al-Aqsa mosque (the 3rd holiest place to Islam). And named the massacre "Al-Aqsa wind".
Even though it paints the Palestinians as heartless monsters capable of horrible atrocities, Hamas still uses this tactic to deflect blame.
However, as we live in the information age, nowadays everything is leaked online.
So you can now find not only witness accounts, but also photographic evidence of most if not all atrocities.
It is now becoming clear that Hamas started to plan this operation 1-2 years ago, and it was planned to the T.

From what we know the attack itself started at around 6:30 AM on Saturday, when barrages of missiles started being fired towards towns around the Gaza strip, as well as towns and cities in the center of Israel.
The date was chosen with a purpose, this was both the weekend and a holiday - so army bases had only skeleton crews while most soldiers were at home celebrating with their families.
While the Israelis were cowering and seeking shelter from the rockets - Hamas infantry units breached the perimeter in approximately 20-30 places at the same time, attacking 20 towns and cities and the same time, in addition to several military bases.
At the same time, Hamas terrorists on paragliders entered Israel from the air, coordinating the attack and later landing and taking part in the attack themselves.
At the same time, Hamas Naval units, on several fast boats and additional divers came in from the sea, and landed on the coast of Israel.
At the same time, Hamas used drones (similarly as they are used in the Ukraine war) to drop grenades on any cameras watching the Gaza border, to blind the Israeli army. To drop grenades on any communication towers to prevent them for calling for help or reinforcements. And to drop grenades on tanks to disable them.
Learning from the Al-Qaeda and ISIS instructions manuals (such manuals were found on bodies of some of the terrorists. In addition to at least one ISIS flag), the terrorists entered Israel on white Toyota pickup trucks and motorcycles. They were carrying automatic weapons, RPGs, grenades, heavy machine guns, additional ammunition and even food for prolonged stay. They were also carrying detailed instructions of who should go where and do what, which included killing, kidnapping and taking hostages.
After entering the Israeli territory, some terrorists turned to Israeli Army bases. Their goal was to take over the bases, killing and kidnapping as many soldiers as possible. If they were unable to do so, they were to pin the Israeli forces, to prevent them from assisting the civilians nearby.
Other terrorists drove directly to 20 Israeli towns (each town had their own Hamas units assigned to them), where they proceeded to commit atrocities as soon as they arrived. Each town had a Hamas ambush unit places at the entrance of the town, to target first responders and prevent them from reaching the civilians inside. The massacre lasted for hours, many civilians contacted by their besieged relatives and frustrated by the inability of the Army/Police to reach them, tried to drive there themselves to rescue their loved ones, only to be butchered by these ambushes.
Some terrorists were disguised in Israeli army uniform, to fool first responders, and let them come close before killing them.

It is yet unclear if the terrorist were aware of the Nova music festival taking place near Re'im kibbutz, or was it a target of opportunity.
We do know that the festival was filled with roughly 3,000 music lovers, from all around the world.
The main roads were cut off by terrorists, and anyone trying to flee at any direction was shot at.
In addition, the terrorists entered the premises of the music festival, and started shooting at and kidnapping people.
At least in one case, party goers tried to find shelter in a bomb-shelter near by. The terrorist threw several grenades into a the place crammed up with people.

Full list of towns and cities attacked can be found here (use google translate)
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%AA%D7%A7%D7%A4%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%A4%D7%AA%D7%A2_%D7%A2%D7%9C_%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%9C_(2023)#%D7%9E%D7%AA%D7%A7%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%A2%D7%9C_%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%93%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%90%D7%96%D7%A8%D7%97%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D

SERIOUS WARNING: The following evidence presented is mostly written or audio accounts. They are still very very triggering and disturbing, please beware

Interrogation of a captured terrorist, talking about the plans of the Hamas perpetrators ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/142

Interrogation of a another captured terrorist ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/39

White Toyota jeeps (beloved by ISIS) used in this attack.
There is an UNRWA (UN agency for helping Palestinians) first aid kit in one of them.
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/155

A document found in the terrorists vehicle reveals Hamas's true intentions - a murder of innocent civilians, using them as human shields and setting homes on fire. (Document in Arabic - use google image translate)
https://t.me/Israel_Report/9013

Document labeled October 2022, describing the plan of the attack (Document in Arabic - use google image translate)
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/149

Terrorists entering the music festival grounds, shooting everyone
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People shot dead by Hamas ambush on the road
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Hamas boasting dead bodies of civilians on social media
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Terrorists, armed to their teeth, kidnapping people from the music festival ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/202

Terrorists setting up ambushes on the roads to kill first responders and people passing by
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Terrorists walking through the street of a town, shooting at any signs of life
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Terrorist sees a silhouette moving slowly (probably elderly men/women) shoots to kill
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Terrorists enter a kibbutz, kill a person driving a car entering the kibbutz
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Terrorists leave some troops to pin town soldiers in a military base, while they continue towards a civilian town.
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One of the non-Jews (Arabs) killed by the terrorists
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/185

Hamas child soldiers posing in full military gear ["𝐍𝐒𝐅𝐖"]
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/179

Terrorists in full military gear throw a grenade into a bomb shelter.
A civilian tries to flee, the terrorists shoot him point blank and continue to abuse the dead body
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Terrorists in full military gear throw a grenade into a bomb shelter, when a civilian rubs out they shoot him.
Another civilian us badly beaten by them outside.
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Entrance to one of the towns. A civilian tries to flee on foot, a terrorist ambush shoots him dead.
Moments later the ambush comes closer and one of the terrorists shoot at the dead body to verify he's dead.
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A salary slip found on a dead terrorist, showing he received his salary from the Palestinians Authority
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/160

Terrorists setting houses on fire with people still inside
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Civilians shot dead at their homes
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ISIS flag found on a dead terrorist.
https://t.me/palestinianatrocities/74

Dashcam footage of a terrorist ambush of civilians driving in the road
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Terrorists looting cars of people they killed
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Apparently Hamas paragliding units were trained by the EU envoy to Gaza
https://forbes.co.il/outgoing-eu-envoy-paraglides-off-of-gazas-coast/

Son of a leader of the Hamas, now living in the US, talks about who Hamas really are
https://t.me/Israel_Report/8863

P.S. Something I wanted to mention - was the huge wave of love and support from all over the world, in the wake of this horrible massacre.
Especially stands out the response of President Volodymir Zelensky, who's own country is in a war for it's own survival for over 1.5 years, yet he encouraged world leaders to come visit Israel and show support for the people. Time and time again he shows what a great mean he really is.

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just give up or you may well get band/or suspended for keep posting this - not to mention you got told off and had this near exact thread closed by a high up mod because it broke many rules (or one rule many times) - and you have since made this with a bunch of links to sights and pictures no doubt which have all been removed already - so please stop before the mods get you suspended

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Personally, I'd rather have all "awareness" threads closed.

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Normally I wouldn't mind any thread within the forum rules but these threads heavily disturb the neutral structure and cause polarization here, which is not good for the future of this community. So I agree, maybe we should restrict the extent of off-topic.

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How will you be aware tho?

View attached image.
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I can only speak for myself, but I come to Steamgifts for a little fun and entertainment. For awareness I go to BBC or The Guardian.

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I'd say you speak for many of us.

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True

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+1

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You know that news agencies like Reuters, Agence France-Presse and Associated Press (to name the three biggest ones) do exist, right?
Those are usually more reliable sources than some gaming site, dodgy telegram channels or other 'alternative news sites'.

I'd rather keep this political stuff off of SG, this stuff is turning this place into a toxic shithole.
Got blacklisted by several people for stating my opinion in the palestine thread and I'll probably get blacklisted by several more because of this post. It's inevitable that people get triggered by threads like this.

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I know, it was just a joke about the whole awarness thing, which I agree shouldn't be here (or at least give us an option to hide it from the section that shows new comments in a topic as those will probably be updated daily).

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The previous thread was closed because it broke a rule. This thread fixes that.

That's how all progress is achieved, by making mistakes and then fixing them.

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You're a long-dead account, revived to create a shtstorm.
A sh
tstorm that was meant to turn war criminals into victims.
Begone, troll. And take your multi-accounts with you.

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Well isn't that a nice personal attack? FYI, I've been visiting SG almost every day. I've been participating in fewer discussions lately, but here are some of my recent comments: 1, 2, 3.

And looking at your number of comments (663), which is almost 10 times less than mine in roughly the same time period, it's you who suddenly got the urge to participate in a shitstorm out of the blue.

And BTW multiaccounting is a very serious accusation here. You can be banned for making it without any proof.

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They won a giveaway 4 months ago. Last created GA is not a good and trustworthy metric to judge one's activity, and does close to nothing to track to one's presence

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Rus troll.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9sBU2EChT0
Israeli investigators report Islamic jihad rocket misfired and killed hundreds at hospital

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Terrorists handling explosives. What could go wrong, right? Certainly they didn't get professional training on how to use them.

I find it strange palestinians don't want to evacuate. You'd assume they'd want this cancer gone too. They're getting bombed by both hamas and israel and they still want to stay in the middle of israel coming for hamas. Not much they could've done in this situation but at least the others wouldn't be shields as well when israel comes.

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You would assume so right?
Give them 100 years of HAMAS rule and their plight will not improve in the slightest.
Last I heard was that 100.000 civilians are left in the zone that Israel asked to leave.
If they are the hardcore HAMAS beliebers, then let them.

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It's not that Palestinians don't want to evacuate, it's that they have nowhere to go. You can't just tell people "leave in 24 hours" and be surprised when they are still there. I have no love for Hamas, but Israel is in danger of following in America's footsteps after 9/11. Hamas will use civilians as human shields and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The US spent decades trying to deal with terrorism in the Middle East, and the end result was thousands of dead civilians, and many of the surviving civilians were radicalized due to American actions. People are also glossing over the fact that 40% of Gaza is under the age of 14. Israel is seemingly okay with bombing children as long as Hamas members are next to them. It was a war crime when the US did it, and it's a war crime when Israel does it. And to reiterate, I am not condoning or excusing the Hamas terror attack. That was obviously a horrific attack that many Palestinian supporters are trying to minimize with the logic that "Israel has been just as bad". Israel's cruel actions towards the Palestinian people over the years explains why Hamas attacked Israel (and why many Gaza citizens support Hamas), but it does not excuse it. But what I am saying, is that Israel does not get a free pass to commit atrocities, just because an atrocity was committed against them.

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I thought this site is for gifting/receiving games.

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It is.

However this in an "Off Topic" discussion forum - so it host discussions not related to games.
Btw, you can choose to unsubscribe from any discussion forum, to only see posts from forums that interest you.
For example, if you don't want to see "off topic" posts, simply click on the "eye" icon next to the words "Off Topic" in the forums list (left top corner of this page)

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Yeah... just the site is not working correctly, hiding doesn't work on main page's listing. Not your problem of fault of course, but it's time to actually have a proper forum's toolset from the site, if this trend of recent topics continue.
"The forced awareness of awareness topics"- awareness, if you will.

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What we need is an "awareness" or "off topic x 2" section which doesn't show up when you click discussion. It's pretty clear these threads are bound to get a bunch of people heated and a lot of replies, so they always show at the top, although I think for most of us on steam gifts, we care about seeing threads related to gaming, or deals like bundles, game removals, showcases or mods, groups, etc.

If you include the closed thread and the thread the other person made when that was closed, that would've been 4 threads occupying the front page of discussions yesterday. This kind of stuff should all be consolidated into their own section away from "discussions" which I think should be renamed to "gaming discussions" and then if people look for something else on their own, they can find it on the side.

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Oh, wow. I wasn't aware.
Yeah - I have to agree with you.
That indeed negates all the benefits of only being subscribed to topics you're interested in...

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I support your right of posting this, whatever your opinion.
Though I don't think it's adequate to post pics that can cause trigger.
Having said that, people who don't like this kind of thread, just ignore it, just like I will do with people who may answer or blacklist me.

TL;DR: BLACKLIST ME!!!!11

Edit: Lol, I didn't know people felt they needed to justify themselves to me

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sorry i can't black list you again

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sorry, you're already blacklisted for leeching

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One question. If the NSFW content cannot be created straight in the topic, can it be crested as replies in the thread?

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No, I don't think so. The rules are for content in general.

This is the relevant rule:

Inappropriate content. If you are posting content that may be considered NSFW (not safe for work), prefix any links or images with a NSFW tag to warn others. Do not post pornography, or explicit content, such as real life images depicting severe injury, gore, or death.

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I have seen plenty of people getting blown up and corpses in the Ukraine awareness thread

Edit: example https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1713119178364764312

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1712437045249839592

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Just means the mod missed them. Doesn't make it any better, don't try and justify it.

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The justification isn't about him posting content, the inference was that of double-standards of content in threads.

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  1. The big difference between the links he provided and the links that were in this thread originally was that the links quijote3000 provided don't have actual gore that you can see although still nsfw, it's at least censored, or from too far away to see anything specific. The links this thread originally had, were actual gore, uncensored.

  2. I stand by my point, unless someone reports those comments I don't see how they'd be seen by mods, I don't expect moderators to go manually and read every thread and click on every link and watch every video fully, and I think everyone should agree expecting them to go through al the content hundreds of users post is a little unreasonable. Just because they might miss a comment link to that stuff doesn't mean it's okay. Trying to share said content despite rules saying don't by asking if it's better to do in the comments where it's harder to see is still not okay.

Hence why, if you see something that's not right, feel free to report it, rather than waiting for a mod to stumble upon it. On this thread it was obvious because they were posted in the OP's comment and they were linked immediately. Quijote asking if they can be shared in comments still doesn't make it right, because it's still against the rules. OP kept plenty of links that adhere to the rules, the ones he posted before he had to remove as this isn't T or LL.

If someone makes a comment linking to said rule breaking videos, they might not come to the mods attention for a while, which is why it would take longer to get to, if not completely missed by a mod, considering all the spam that's done in this type of threads. So by all means, if you see such comments, bringing them to the attention of the mods is the best thing you can do to keep the community clean.

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The justification isn't about him posting content, the inference was that of double-standards of content in threads.

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What is the double standard can you explain?

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Good luck this time. At least we've a slightly less brainwashed topic than the other...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvDAra1VFnE
Israel-Hamas War: Piers Morgan vs Palestinian Ambassador Husam Zomlot Over Gaza Hospital Strike

With people like him in places of power, the whole situation over there has no chance to go anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq1J6YAKAxs
Palestine Ambassador grilled over origin of deadly Gaza hospital strike

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Additional updates from the last 2 days:

The body of Ruth Peretz, the 16 year old girl with the Cerebral Pulsy, and her father have been located. Confirming they are dead and not kidnapped.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/378760

The body of the 12 year old autistic girl, who was a Harry Potter fan JK Rowling tweeted about a few days ago, has been discovered, confirming she is dead and not kidnapped.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/12-year-old-harry-potter-fan-championed-by-j-k-rowling-found-murdered-by-hamas/

Another eyewitness testimony from the paramedics team handling the aftermath.
The terrorists placed the parents and 2 children (6 & 7) on their knees facing each other, with their hands tied behind their backs.
The terrorists proceeded to torturing them, cutting off limbs, gouging eyes out, etc. While eating the food the family had in their living room table.
Eventually executing the whole family (it's unclear if the parents were forced to watch their children executed, or the children forced to see the parents executed)
https://t.me/trufhabil/146

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Closing due to a recent addition to our community guidelines.

Military conflicts. Military conflicts that are causing a hostile and divisive environment throughout our community at a scale that makes other methods of moderation ineffective or infeasible. At the moment we will be closing discussions and potentially removing comments pertaining to...

  • Israel-Hamas war
  • Russia-Ukraine war
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Closed 6 months ago by cg.