Fight Club was terrible. Let's face it. It was a fad and the plot probably left a lot of people thinking 'loldafuq'. I actually kind of think it started the MPD trope but eh.
Watch Beverly Hills Cop. Eddie Murphy in his prime, or y'know just being a really good actor.
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Rewatch Fight Club and think about it being about a man who is gay, in the world at the time the film was made if not a few years before, and he is unable to understand, accept or express what he is feeling. The fights being a way to prove his masculinity to himself as he is unable to fully accept his own being.
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...Yeah, it still would be TERRIBLE. In fact, that idea would be clichè and pretty irrelevant now-a-days because it takes place in the U.S. It still doesn't excuse the horrible, horrible MPD storyline.
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I honestly didn't expect you to. I hate the MPD trope as much as I hate arrogant assholes, so eh. It's not like Fight Club is the worst movie ever but it wasn't good. I just personally hated it, no way to change that unfortunately.
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I think Fight Club is fantastic, but that's my opinion.
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I think seeing the film as an awkward, nerdybeforeitwascool high school student had a huge impact on how I absorbed that movie. I say this because I've tried re-watching it since then and definitely find a lot of it pretentious and class-ignorant....despite what it was trying to say.
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I don't even remember the overall ending point. Wasn't it something about how he hates his corporate-slave job and shitty living style so he wants to teach the world a point about all of the rich people or something, right? Doesn't the protag try to blow up the banks or rob them or something? I 'unno. All I know is the ending gave me 'corporations are evil topkek' vibes.
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Well there are a lot of good critiques of late 20th-early 21st century society in that film, but it's just told in such a nauseatingly self-congratulatory and pretentious manner, as if Palahniuk and by extension Fincher were the first people to question the masculine status quo of American (and to an extent Western)society in general.
Spoiler for the endingIt ends with Tyler Durden(Ed Norton/Brad Pitt)shooting himself in the head to exorcise any last vestiges of his dual personality and having gotten Project Mayhem to blow up some credit card companies so that "Everyone is back at zero." I won't get into my own thoughts on the ending here, it would derail too much:)
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I'm going to ASSUME the point was that credit card companies are in a sense a 'scam'(loan sharks, I guess?) and that if everybody was 'back at zero', nobody would be in a debt-filled life as pretty much every single human being on earth is. It's like an 'initiation' to get several kinds of debts thrown at you before the age of 30.
In the event that's NOT the point, it's still a good point overall.
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Yep and I definitely agree. That's why I say I still think the movie has some good ideas I just don't like the execution that well:)
Also gonna second BHC. Eddie Murphy, like a lot of comedians nowadays, had an amazing career before he went "family friendly." His old stand-up specials are still hilarious, too.
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All of you guys miss the point. The film doesn't endorse or promote Durden, it rejects him, and his immature calls for a return to primitive masculinity.
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Wow, someone went digging...
IMO that's not entirely accurate: The film rejects both Durden's man-child persona but also the rigid conformity that The Narrator was living before it drove him to need an outlet like Durden.
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The Fight Club sub-thread is right at the top of this thread, which is apparently active, or I wouldn't have seen it.
The Narrator's dysfunction is fixed through connection with others, and then broken again when a poseur arrives, because her lie reflects his. Later, in Fight Club, a large chunk of the draw is belonging to this primal brotherhood of Men. The Narrator eventually rejects Fight Club, but presumably because of his connection to Marla and his better understanding of the needs that he lacks, he will be fine in the future.
However I don't think the film presents enough of his life in the beginning to make much of a statement on modern life. The Narrator is alone, and disconnected, and fills his emptiness with things rather than valid connections to others, but this is his dysfunction--it has no true reflection on society, and his later rejection of societal values is expressed mostly in a Durdenian fashion.
One of the first things we learn about Durden is that he pees in the soup at catered functions and that he inserts pictures of cocks into family films. This is a juvenile expression of rebellion. Durden's world-view--at least initially--is not without its attractive qualities, but it is ultimately immature and naive, and it reflects The Narrator's own immaturity.
The essential problem The Narrator faces is that he recognizes his own dysfunction and instead of growing up (and growing emotionally), he goes full retard alpha male. It is only as the end that we get that he has a much more balanced sense of whom he needs to be and what he needs to do.
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You should reply to the other people who posted since they might have more of an interest in a discussion.
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I don't care enough about the movie to get into a deep discussion; if it was more important to me I would have watched it again sometime since seeing it and I haven't:) Sorry.
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Fight club was a great movie. It was a turn of the century movie expressing and telling people to do ore with their lives. The ending for me was spotty but it was ok.
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Get out of here.. Fight Club is the best movie ever made.
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go read the books instead... Sure it was impressive, It was a good movie, but it's far from being even a great movie, not to mention best movie ever...
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Yeah I thought they were good but nowhere near my favorites..
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They are extremely well done movies in every possible aspect. Of course they don't live up to the books, but they are definitely good films. Of course I'd also recommend reading the books, but the movies are very impressive
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I first read the book over almost 20 years ago and still read it every year or so. I also still watch the movies about as often. I love it for what it is, for what i tried to be. Conversely the Hobbit trilogy was an unnecessary farce.
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They really didn't need to split the hobbit into three movies, I watched the first one, and saw it was missing a proper antagonist . A good movie should have something the hero had to work against, be it a villein, his own self doubts, or even the environment, If the hero if the film is Bilbo Baggens, what is he fighting? Also when exactly is the films climax? It should have been in the riddle game with Gollum, but thematically it doesn't seem to fit.
I haven't watched the other two movies i was so disappointed in the first.
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They tried to shoehorn in a villain and added a lot of unnecessary nonsense rather than let the book stand on its own.
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I watched hounderds of movies and LotR is best I have ever saw, it's more than movie for me. And yes, I read almost all of Tolkien books but movie is a masterpiece. But I don't mind people don't liking it so much because it's grandiloquent and not everyone like that.
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I fell asleep watching the first one. The other 2 though, they were awesome.
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Django Unchained, one of my favorites. Will try to watch Kung Fury.
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I know absolutely nothing about Django Unchained, but I've heard good things. So I think this'll be my pick for tonight. :)
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Definitely. I've seen so many people sing the praises of To the Moon but ESotSM did a similar story first and did it better.
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I don't enjoy a lot of Jim Carrey movies the older I get. but this and The Truman Show are modern classics.
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What's the one where it's all about sex and crime and every single one has a lesbian scene? I'm pretty sure that's 'The Scene' of the first movie.
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Come and See (1985)
EDIT: I'm going to pick interstellar
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I bought Come and See in dvd years ago. Maybe it's time to watch it. I choose this movie.
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I have just seen the movie. It's as if Wabbajack came to the Earth and pissed on all human beings. I need a hug urgently :|
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:) yeah, it's the only anti-war film ever made, I thought it would be better if i didn't said why everyone should watch it.
Sorry if it ruined you forever
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I really dont get why people call it a masterpiece.
Ok its a good movie, it has good characters, good directing, good acting. But the plot is nothing incredible... at all. The dialogues are gems but the order of the chapters and some unnecessary chapters just leaves the watcher with a tired mind (and by unnecessary chapters I mean Butch's chapters, yes they were crap).
I really dont see anything great about the film.
And btw, a foot massage MEANS stuff.
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It's amazing! But people with little tolerance for long dialogs and story rich movies don't seem to like it (not talking about OP).
Now, regarding OP, BUTCH CHAPTERS WERE AMAZING!!! Are you freaking kidding me?!?! The gimp chapter is pure awesome, I haven't seen anything like it in other movies, I adore Pulp Fiction as a whole!
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The film was made with the soul and it feels when watching a movie.
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The timeline is shown in a random order, to get the story right you have to think a little bit. Then you realize why a character acted like he did in whatever chapter.
It's a pretty nice movie tbh.
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Reservoir Dogs > Pulp Fiction ;p Actually Reservoir Dogs > Everything QT ever made ;p still love QT tho ;p
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Reservoir Dogs is great! What I loved about PF is the great variety of PF, I think it has way more memorable moments, but RD is also an amazing movie! My favorite part is the Mr Blonde dancing scene with the razor, that's pure genius
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and did you know that whole razor-scene was improvised? :D: Even cutting the ear was not in the original script - Madsen improvised the whole scene and QT loved it so much he called a re-take on Madsen's improvisation that finally ended in the movie itself ;p
As for scenes I simply love every scene with Tim Roth (Mr Orange) :D:
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Yes! I read that Madsen improvised the whole thing, the best part is when he talks to the ear, lmfao
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as for PF - it had a lot of epic moments but quite a few of weak ones as well. And in RD - every scene is golden ;p
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I've seen Reservoir Dogs only a few months ago, and I wa watching it with mouth left open. It was incredibly good. Not epic, not fantastic, not grandiose, just a really well done, simple movie that had thick atmosphere, good characters, great actors (Tim Roth was ...the best. No better word for me) and all these things ended up the movie being harmonic. I had the same feeling with Red Dragon - both are agressive, violent, but so incredibly well done and life-like that you can really immerse yourself into them :)
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book > movie.
only thing that was really exceptional in movie was it's outstanding soundtrack.
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Must disagree with that. The Godfather 1 and 2 contain all the story-important events, are outstandingly filmed and acted and also exclude all the unnecesary and quite boring, sexually related situations, which were present in the book.
Honestly I don't care how many venereal diseases Fredo had or how hard was Sonny's lover fucked.
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Why people tend to compare the books to the movies? Never got to understand that. They are different arts, if I want to read a book I'll read a book. The movies are a whole different concept. The only good thing in every book compared to its based movie is that the book, storywise is richer and let's you imagine the whole thing yourself. On the other hand movies have sound, action and you can see how another person imagined the book. Even people who have read the book have a different visual perspective of it, how could a director not have?
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they both present same story, same characters, so comparison of is them pretty much imposed :>
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It's a different art dude. A book has completely different feeling no matter what you do. You can't c/p a book into a movie, you would probably die out of boredom while watching it. Anyway it's all about opinions, I just believe you can't say whether a movie is better than a book or the opposite. It's kinda like comparing oranges to apples, yes they are both fruits but that's all
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That movie is amazing. Proof that your half-orange/Soulmate can be your friend and not necessarily your partner (sorry for my bad english)
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I tried to watch that one some months ago... can't remember the ending or if I even finished watching... I just remember it was kinda boring but kept trying because Scarlett.
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Bill Murray+Scarlett Johanson=pure love. I don't like many films with romance as a major plot point but this movie stands out.
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You all should watch "WAKING LIFE". It can look bad for you, but watch atleast 20 minutes and you will like it. And definetly you will watch it until the end.
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and the original that inspired it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089714/
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enjoy :> one of my fav polish movies of all times :>
but idk if you will be able to get subtitles for it :( Szulkin films tended to be niche even for polish audience, so even more for international one :/ If you happen to get subtitles tho check if you can get ones for Gaga as well :> These two are considered to be his duology sci-fi-surrealist masterpieces :>
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whichever you feel like :> they are not connected, bvut simply use similar film methods for two different genres. O-bi O-ba is much ,more sci-fi with very few elements of dark comedy, and GaGa is dark comedy, with a very few elements of sci-fi, that could be easilly replaced with some other genre and still makre fun of comunist system ;p
ghenerally Szulkin in these two movies was making fun of totalitarian system he was forced to live in, but he used different methods to distinguish it so he could go pass the censoirship ;)
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I personally prefer O-bi O-ba, because it's much more sci-fi in it's core, while Ga-Ga is just a sci-fi movie that uses sci-fi excuse to bypass censorship ;)
But like I said - it all depends on what you look for ;) Ga-Ga is much better dark comedy than O-Bi O-Ba because it's true to what it really want's to be :>
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Oh my god, it's a hungarian movie o.O I've never heard about this one
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Damnit, I don't use IMDB too much: 5 February 1987 (Hungary) I thought it was made here, but this is just the time when it came into the movie theatres :D I didn't even checked the cast, because I've read Kin-Dza-Dza's plot... Stupid mistake :D
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Yeah! Friggin' love that movie! Heck it's my #1 favorite movie of all time!
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Good choice, of course it's hard to find a bad Kubrick film in general, imho.
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I watch this movie every year. i really love it. as a Kubrick film it is a tie between this. a clockwork orange, and the Shining
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+1 for Fight Club :>
recomemdation from me got to be Monthy Python's The Meaning of Life
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That is actually my least favorite Python film, first would be Holy Grail and then The Life of Brian. All are still fantastic, of course.
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The Good, the bad and the ugly.
You can enjoy that movie with people of all ages, there might be violence but not gore so I think even some kids +10 can enjoy it. Great story, good action, amazing music, good acting... it's a masterpiece.
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I recommended this movie in another thread ^^ I like it even if I hate western movies
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You and yer spaghetti!:P
Seriously though, it's funny because I've had the soundtracks by Ennio Morricone, both in physical and digital form, for ages. Great music.
Since this is a thread to pick a new movie to watch, maybe I should finally watch this one all the way through:)
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I hope you enjoy the 'pasghetti ^^
These movies are similar to samurai movies, just with colts instead of blades
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it was good but not so good. If we talk King's adaptations Shawshank totally beats it.
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Easy. Name 1, pick 1 and watch it. Can be a classic, and indie movie, a short film or your favorite movie.
I really think that everyone should watch Fight Club. A life-changing film.
Now its YOUR turn.
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