Greetings!

Im in slow proccess to upgrade my PC. But im a rookie in that. And i need some smart people help.

Im looking currently some graphics cards. And i discovered that GPUs have GDDR memory in their specs. My motherboard MSI H61M-P22 (B3) supports DDR3 RAM ( yes i now, its old! But thats not the question right now :D ). Does that mean, that my mobo supports also only GPUs with GDDR3 memory?

(mobo specs) https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/H61MP22_B3/Specification
(mobo overview) https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/H61MP22_B3

TY!!!

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PS! If GPU supports DirectX 12, but mobo supports DX10.1. Will the game run in DX 12 or 10? Please, any answer about this ! :D

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Nope you'll be fine with newer cards

5 years ago
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thank you

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No. GDDR is the extra virtual RAM the graphics card provides. It's a part of the graphics card, only used by the graphics card and therefore not directly linked to the motherboard (however, the card itself has to fit upon the motherboard).
The DDR motherboard specification is only important for the RAM sticks you can put into the motherboard's slots.

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So, the most imported thing for me to check is, if the mobo has the right PCI-E slot ? My motheboard has PCI-E x16 Gen. 2. As i have read, newer cards are backwards compatible. Meaning, i can insert to my mobo lets say MSI GeForce GTX 1050 X Gaming 2GB GDDR5 ? It has PCI Express 3.0.

5 years ago
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yes you definitely can

5 years ago
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Thank you

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Graphics card have their own memory controller so mo matters what memory your motherboard support, but you'll have to check is the pcie bus available in your motherboard is enough for that graphics card and if your CPU will be able to max out the graphics card so you don't waste your money.

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thank you

5 years ago
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Graphics cards manage their own memory, it is completely independent from what you have on your motherboard. If you want to worry about something that should be the power supply and the PCIe rate (to a lesser extent).

5 years ago
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thank you! I already have also read some things about the power issiue :) Will check this more.

5 years ago
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thank you!!!

5 years ago
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You might want to change your mobo, so you can get a good (recent) cpu as well. Trust me, a good gpu with a bad cpu might be good in the beginning, because it's gonna be much better than what you had, but the more time passes, the more annoyed you get because of how much of your nice gpu is going to waste and how much you just can't do (or play) because the rest of the pc won't allow you to. I personally recommend going for a b350 amd mobo and any cpu from the ryzen series.

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thank you

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Careful though, your gpu might be bottlenecked by the cpu if it's too weak

5 years ago
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Thank you. Yes, im now aware about that.

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Your motherboard looks to support 2nd gen Sandy Bridge i5/i7 processors - i5 2500 and i7 2600 for example. That may be what you already have. While they're not the newest, they should be fine for 1080p gaming when paired with something like a GTX 1050 Ti, 1060, or RX 570, 580, 590.

5 years ago
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No, i have only i3 2100, 3,10 GHz.

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Your processor is likely to hold you back in modern games, not so much in older games. It may be enough, depending on what you're playing. If you find it's holding you back, and you're not getting the performance from your new video card that you expect, you could see about either overclocking it or replacing it with an i5 35xx or i7 37xx CPU (you may be able to get a used one for very little).

5 years ago
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Are you saying that this motherboard is supporting only iCore 2nd gen processors or can i add do it a newer gen CPU from Intel iCore ?

5 years ago
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You can upgrade to i7 but only from the Sandy Bridge generation.

5 years ago
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Mhmh, ok. Thats what i tought. Thanks!

5 years ago
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On one of my previous builds, I had an upgrade from core2duo to quadcore.
You will feel the difference going from i3 to i7, but you'd need a lot of luck to find a decent unit of such an old generation. It can be done tho on second-hand hardware forums but get it only from someone reputable.

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I was just confirming your story :D Searching Estonian online stores, i found at this moment only ONE gen2 iCore CPU :( And the price is crispy :D

https://www.1a.ee/arvutikomponendid_vorgutooted/komponendid/protsessorid/intel_core_i72600_34ghz_8mb_tray_cm8062300834302s

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That's what it said on the page you linked, but I see that is outdated. This is the full supported CPU list: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/H61MP22_B3#support-cpu

Of note, it also supports the 3rd gen Core processors, like the Core i5-3570(K) and i7-3770(K). Those processors are still pretty great, and easily capable of running today's games at 1080p at max settings when paired with a decent video card - particularly if you get one of the K processors and overclock it to 4GHz or so (the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo is a great and very quiet heatsink).

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Are you sure it supports 3rd gen? My i3 is Sandy Bridge not Ivy Bridge.

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Yes, it supports both Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. You can see a list of all the processors it supports here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/H61MP22_B3#support-cpu

5 years ago
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Yes yes, i was cheking this site, but i was understanding it wrong :D TY

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Others have answered the memory question, but the motherboard compatibility is only tied to your PC's RAM, not your video card's VRAM.

DirectX 12 support is tied to the video card. If your video card supports it, and you're running Windows 10, then you'll have access to it. Do note that most games currently run faster on Nvidia cards on DirectX 11, particularly on the 10xx cards.

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thank you!

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Dont worry. You can use any graphics card even 2080 Ti. The bottleneck is your old system. but any card will be working

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thank you!

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the graphic card just need to have PCI Express x16 to work (and get sufficient PSU). DirectX will be based on graphics card, not mobo (the one listed for mobo is for integrated graphics)

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thank you! I getting really smart already :D

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As everyone else says any pcie card will work fine. Try to get one with more vram vs less. A great vidio processor with little vram just wont work very well in the future. I'd personally suggest 4gb as a minimum. It is relative to the games you play or want to play though. Research and reviews of different cards is your friend here.

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Yup, thanks for the tips!

5 years ago
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Forget GPU upgrade. An i3-2100 is too weak for even a GTX 1050 Ti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWd5hlIl-WM | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhWLlF_tdj0
Stay on that rig and get enough money to buy a completely new one.

If you want something that lasts for an acceptable price, then get ready to join Team Red, since currently the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 CPU and the AMD RX 580 GPU have the best price/performance ratio on the market in the middle segment price range…

5 years ago
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Currently that PC has also AMD, but it is HD 6670 :D :D
Im not a Nvidia fanboy, so i will get a thought about that. Thanks.

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Stay on that rig and get enough money to buy a completely new one.

No particular reason to do that. He can get a new GPU, be CPU bottlenecked, and games will still run a lot better than with his current GPU. He could then get a new CPU later, that's a better match for the GPU.

5 years ago
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Im thinking something similar.

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I'm running a RX480 on a Phenom II.

Granted, it's suboptimal, but with some adjustments I can run games that a Phenom-era GPU would not even start at minimum settings. No reason not to buy a better GPU. If he gets a better CPU later as well, he won't miss anything.

I noticed a massive improvement when I switched from my Phenom-era ATI HD 5850 GPU, even bottlenecked it's running modern games fine enough on medium-high settings (Phenom II x4 925 is slightly below i3-2100 according to benchmarks https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-2100-vs-AMD-Phenom-II-X4-925/m41vsm2581 ).

5 years ago
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Thanks for that info!

5 years ago
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The GeForce 1600 family is expected to be released soon. The 1660 Ti should be out any day now, but the 1660 and 1650 are also expected by end of next month. (Though NVIDIA hasn't announced anything yet.)

That would affect performance / price for low end cards. Might be worth waiting for it.

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Nice!

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Closed 5 years ago by rasLivity.