L4D2 became... unplayable?

Not really, used to be better, still playable tho. I have to agree that it's true, but it's really not such a big change.

As long as you have a friend (better if IRL) then you'll have a ton of fun. I always play L4D2 with my friends from school and it's a ton of fun.

It seems to be that you really don't like kids at all, they never bother me unless they have a mic, if they do just join a different server.

That sounds like the same experience I had a couple of years ago when I tried to get into L4D2.

I got bored of the game overall. I would much rather prefer zombie survival in garrys mod.

sounds like every other coop online game I've tried that has it's player base grow over a certain threshhold.

Sounds like any online fps game. Killing floor is better btw.

This is what you get if you make a game F2P.
Even if just for a short period of time.

L4D2 has never been playable without friends IMO.

my favorite part of the left 4 deads is being called a rage quitter, when really its a "my-team-sucks-so-I-left" quitter...get it right.

You can't play L4D2 without friends nowadays. Two months ago me and 6 other friends were playing versus and decided to make the server public, worst idea that day. Most people we played with were always calling us names, the usual ones were "noobs" "you guys suck" "run you fool", "OMG you are the famous lima" (joke). But there was this one guy, oh my fucking god. He called us names using his mic and the chat at the same time, he even took the fucking time to invite the 7 of us to a group called "Why are you so retarded?"

Worst community I've had to deal with, but I don't play COD so I wouldn't know if there are worst than this one.

Yeah see, this is why I don't play pretty much any multiplayer. Its also why I didn't own a headset, and never use a headset except with my brothers for co-op.

I do hope a L4D3 comes out sometime, I wonder what Valve could do to improve the game overall, L4D2 was no way a big change from the original.

I never managed to complete a full Scavenger game due to retards spamming kick votes if you don't play exactly like them.

I'll stick to the more friendly community of Killing Floor.

The L4D community has been that way from the beginning. Since I don't have a dedicated group of friends to play with I pretty much gave up on it years ago.

I felt very compelled to write so much as this isn't just a problem for L4d but for gaming in general, If you read the following then more power to you! If not then just overlook it and proceed to the giveaways in SG :)

That list is just what nearly all public game communities become eventually. The issue has certainly gotten worse over the years, I think in part due to lower priced hardware & wide acceptance/promotion of troll culture. These kids(could even be 40yr & still have the mentality of a small child) only continually grow in number as well because this has become acceptable & expected gamer behavior online.

Its certainly not hard to fit in with them though. All you have to do is stop using your own original constructive commentary/thoughts & instead only say overused internet slag & memes to describe your every waking moment. Doing drugs seems to be a factor also, the more incoherent & wasted a person becomes seems to draw in more respect. Creating a twitch or youtube to display these accomplishments could even send you into stardom & begin making a lot of dosh.

Some used to take a stand ingames(perhaps still do) to promote better behavior-teamwork to accomplish goals. Trying that now sometimes can result in becoming grieved, discredited, kicked or your comment buried quickly by overwhelming numbers. Unfortunately, the desirable people you may want to play with hide in private groups/servers partly due to this.

Not all of the younger gamers(& older) online are so disrespectful or uncooperative though & there is certainly times where people just want to let loose & be wild, I am subject to it as well. That is where the distinction needs to be found to separate friend from troll.

The only advice I can give is to simply turn off the mics or begin overheating the mute button on users ingame. You could also mention how absurd some people are being & leave the room. If enough people follow suit it may begin to reinforce the idea that better behavior is required to play with others online. But you of course may end up just hopping from room to room doing this till you exit the game. Thus why private groups & servers become the ultimate refuge.

Lastly, Steam cards haven't exactly helped gaming either. You can sometimes find AFK people ingames that are just wanting their drops & never intend to play afterwards. The same could be said about reward programs such as Playfire. I have friends who don't really have ambition for games other then just getting a certain achievement & credit for it within PF. They wont even play or proceed to any other game unless it's on the list at the blog & they don't return to the games either. Perhaps some intend to later but this process can take up all of persons free time so it wont be anytime soon. PF does at least promote teamwork as some of the achievements may require it.

Many of the games that appear dead, are in fact not. Its the community & rewards that sometimes drive people into seclusion & unambitious gameplay.

It's just that you're getting old.

its still playable with your friends. other than that i hate playing with strangers in co-op games.

I wouldn't say unplayable, but I usually just gather some friends/family and play a custom map from the workshop or something.

This is just about every game. I don't have friends to play with, so really I drop lots of games that I try to play, especially since I don't have a mic(Neither can I get one to work, so it wouldn't matter anyways, apparently I'm too stupid). I've recently had this experience with No More Room In Hell. I just got it a few weeks ago, first time playing it. It's pretty 'dead' and most of the players are annoying mic-spamming kids and/or teens.

Play it with your friends. In general, almost every game (TF2, CS:GO, Dota, L4D2, etc) with a public lobby is going to have the same experience unless you do a PUG or just play with your friends or just mess around and don't mind.

This is why I've kind of stopped playing multiplayer, the only multiplayer games I've played have been on Battlefield 2 Project Reality where most people are mature or any other game but only with friends.

I'm not into this kind of multiplayer mainly because of that issue and probably due to the fact that I don't have any friends that play the games I play.

Last I checked Killing Floor had a pretty good community, try that game maybe?