Nvidia's bundled game codes can no longer be sold or given away

But do they always have games from Uplay?

GeForce Experience is kind of cool, imo, though I normally just use it to automatically optimize my Steam games, I forgot you could even launch games through it and stuff.

i don't know that, i just assume it will be like this. can't imagine you really have to start the game in experience. i also think if experience suddenly transformed into a game client, we would have read about that. i guess we have to wait until someone confirms it. but i would bet money that experience only does the gpu check, and after redemption you have a normal uplay game.

I wish I had some time, I'd have compiled a more comprehensive answer for you. As such, like I said it varies with the laws because each state has different laws. I can guess however, that the neighbor's case is valid because neighbor probably won it through lottery (where she paid consideration for purchase of ticket) or else she entered into a lucky draw (where again she paid consideration for the product and draw both combined) and in her case, she might be fully entitled to sell it simply of the lack of any T&C surrounding the draw. If the company giving away the gadget did not specify that it has to be for personal use, then they can't go whammying back about it once she's won. Contrary to popular belief, most legal documents are not ex post facto laws, meaning they do not have retroactive applicability and T&C qualifies as a legal document governing the conditions of the draw. That's the gist of it, mainly and just a theory on my part, but it is definitely a different situation altogether from the Nvidia one.

Reading this, it doesn't sound at all like the same thing... Winning a giveaway/sweepstakes/whatever versus getting something with a purchase?

Makes sense for SG. But should not be necessary for GFE.

Steamgifts.com requires Steam's very convenient OpenID login. I'm assuming the nvidia thing requires a proper separate account, with remembering a username and password and verifying via e-mail and all that crap.

OS?

since i know you are a linux user - i hope you don't try to install it in a vm. ^^

Also, Nvidia consumers are not that blind, they did brought the GTX 970 issue to Court and this is why Nvidia was refunding some dollars. It seems to me that the jury was very benevolent at that case tho.

And what about Intel´s debt on court? afaik they haven´t paid all those dirty tricks they pulled out when selling to Dell and I think others big PC building companies to sink AMD sales. AMD needs to get paid.

But there are also many who, even in budget builds, choose Nvidia just because they heard that "AMD sucks".

there might be some that think this way, sure. but do you also ackknowledge the ones that buy an nvidia card for a budget pc, just because they think nvidia is better suited for their build? i get the feeling you don't think nvidia makes any sense in a budget build. i beg to differ.

while pure fps is of course also strong on the amd side (for midrange cards), there are other factors to consider. from what i can tell, a big portion of the new games usually runs better on nvidia. that's kind of important for a lot of people.

if you look at detailed benchmarks (for instance Digital Foundry), you will also notice bad frame times and short stutters in quite a few games with amd cards. while the overall fps might be good, these mini-stutters are noticable for for some people (including myself), this is something to consider when choosing a new card.

you might not believe this, but there are people out there who live the nvidia software package. Shadowplay is pretty nice. doesn't produce any significant cpu or gpu usage, creates videos with decent size and quality, and it's just super-easy to use. also the constant 20 minute capture is great. i use it a lot. we only tested Gamestream once, but it worked quite well. i can imagine there are people who use it on a regular basis. so if i have to decide between 2 cards with equal performance, this is something that pushes me to the nvidia side.

so there actually are arguments for nvidia other than "amd sucks". those examples might not be important to you, but they might be to others. and you should accept that. not everyone who picks an nvidia card, wants to destroy amd and bring nvidia to the top. most people just want the best solution for their build. and i think many are able to defend their position on this.

Just as it happened with Intel in the CPU market, they are now free to do as they wish with little to no consequences (the GTX 970 debacle is a good example, if it was to happen to AMD they would have went bankrupt), because blind fanboys believed their lies, and supported their questionable -if not outright illegal- practices to kill AMD's competitivity (rigged benchmarks, anyone?).

i am not sure if the "blind fanboys believed their lies" refers to the 970 or the rigged benchmarks. but either way, it's nonsense. the 970 memory thing came out months after release. so most people had already bought it anyway. nobody believed anything. people bought it without knowing. the fanboy argument just doesn't make sense here. the card was super successful before we even knew what was going on. and if you want to say now, that the people who bought after that are blind fanboys - no, they're not. the 970 was still an exceptional card, only 5-15% slower than the 980 (depending on the game) and easily en par with it with a decent overclock (+200MHz and more were absolutely no problem), which was significantly more expensive. even with only 3.5GB VRAM, you still got pretty good performance for your money. in most scenarios the missing RAM made no difference at all. it simply made sense to buy the card. that wasn't fanboyism, that was rational thinking.

And that's why I'm a proud AMD supporter, while not being a fanboy

well, you repeatedly say you're not a fanboy. but honestly, you really sound like one. you insult nvidia and bring the exact arguments i would expect from a fanboy. oh well, i hate this word anyway. let's just not use it. it's a stupid word. whenever it's used, there is a good chance it kills the discussion completely. i really, really hate it. xD

you can be a proud AMD supporter. that's absolutely fine. you have your reasons, and i accept that. but please also accept, that there are valid reasons for nVidia other than "fanboyism" (and i used it again ^^). graphics cards are expensive. not everybody can afford to buy cards just to influence the market. most people want the best deal for their money. and nVidia has a decent package that for quite a few people is simply the best choice. if someone had to choose between a RX480 and a 1060, i would probably recommend the 480, because it's a little cheaper and offers similar performance over all. but i would never call him a fanboy or insult him, if he took the 1060 instead. because he might have good reasons to do so. calling people fanboys, insulting people for their choices - that's never a good thing. that's what fanboys do. ;)

I think it will be quite a long time before AMD becomes a serious competitor in the GPU space again (especially for 3D art when it comes to GPU rendering...they had to make their own gpu rendering software just so they weren't completely excluded from that market), but for CPUs they have a real chance with Ryzen. Intels consumer grade CPUs haven't had any noteworthy performance gains since Devils Canyon launched close to three years ago, and their higher core CPUs prices have gotten completely out of control ($1700 for a 10 core 6950X ? f**k you Intel). All Ryzen needs to be successful is comparable performance to Intels chips from 2-3 years ago (when Intel stopped making notable IPC gains), and undercut them on price.

Sorry to disappoint you but AMD has been doing the same thing for the last 2 years - I bought an R9 380 last year, and then they said you can get a free copy of some game ( Can't remember what it was) but only if your Machine is "An Alienware", made by an OEM distributor or in a machine with an AMD CPU.
I applied for the freebie and was rejected - Because I bought mine retail and paired it with an Intel CPU.
On launch day of the RX480's, I bought a new one and a month later they revealed that owners would get Civ 6 - but ONLY if you bought an OEM Machine, Ran the 480 with an AMD CPU or bought the MSI Version with a special Code.
I applied for it and again was rejected - Because mine was an XFX version, paired with an Intel CPU and Not an OEM.

Yeah, I really don't see why people are so mad at Nvidia, if I were them, I'd do something to combat stealing software... And you could just wait a bit to see if the bundled game changes, I don't know why people feel they need to do something immediately if they don't even like the deal?

P.S. KillingArts, For Honor will be on sale later, anyways, right? Idk, maybe you feel you really need it immediately, and I know I'm not one to talk, but it can probably wait...

i don't think this is nvidia's idea. it's most likely the publishers who pressure them to do this.

but it doesn't matter who is to blame - if they really prevent resales of the coupons, that obviously a worse situation for the customer than before. so we customers don't like that this is happening. i don't hate nvidia for that. i generally am not one of those people who hate nvidia for anything. but i would prefer if i could sell a coupon, if i got it with my graphics card.

Well, if you don't play newer games, it's not worth an upgrade.

There's no need for a snotty response. I'm sure some kind of system could be set up where there is a database containing the keys and the associated GPU serial numbers. A GPU gets returned, they enter the serial number, and then have the key linked to the card deactivated. Perhaps I'm thinking about this too simply and there'd be more to the setup, but I fail to see how a system like this couldn't be implemented.