SG User Percentages by Level, and a Question

I should also acknowledge that this table does not indicate the percentage of active users, so these stats may not be representative of the actual SG community.

What is your reason for creating Level 0 giveaways?

You're going to get a lot more people telling you why they don't make level 0 giveaways, but here are my reasons for sometimes making them.

1. We were all level 0 at one point.
2. I occasionally enter level 0 giveaways, so I feel obliged to make a few as well.
3. Most importantly, new site members can enter Level 0 giveaways, and may possibly inspire them to make giveaways of their own.

many people are broke, some to young to have much money themself. i give away to level zero because i know how hard it is to be poor. giving stuff away to people, who can giveaway thousands of games themself doesnt make much sense to me as they can afford games themself. better make the ones happy that dont have as much as others.
im myself am pretty broke

• without lv0 giveaways the site would have never survived.
• lv0 gives everyone a chance to enter.
• best way to promote something (group, youtube, twitch channel).
• and the best reason, it pisses off all the generous-sg-users™. the same kind of user that enters lv0 GAs but makes lv5+ (to avoid leeches!), or enters public GAs but make all for group/wl. 🤷

why do you make lv0 giveaways?
you're feeding leeches!
they don't deserve games
based on my personal experience (and i'm an expert because i made ~700 giveaways!), 99% of the time i have an issue, it's a lv0 user!

It just made me wonder why there are so many giveaways for level 0. (Here is that question I promised you:) What is your reason for creating Level 0 giveaways?

Lv0 Giveaways?
Well, was there a lot of GA of Lv0?
Is it because some people try to raise Lv with a bundle that can be mass-purchased for $ 1?
Among them, depending on the person, there will be fun games.

When CV is 0
It should be a fun game regardless of CV. (Actually by people)
At the very least, we offer the joy of victory.

But I care about the existence of BOT.
It seems reasonable to post "Invite link" to "off topic" or "Puzzle" in "Discussion category".

wizcreations
266 ($2,308.36)
Real CV 330.45

Уровень не имеет значения. Пора бы уже понять на что надо ориентироваться.
А то уровень большой, король епта,
а розданных игр копейки.

Usually I prefer to make giveaways for level 3+. BUT, I do it only to avoid various problems - like rerolls, not activation, etc. I would gladly do giveaways for level 0, because I'd like to make those people happy. You know, when I just started to use steam, I had a few games, and almost no money, so I participated in giveaways on every site, was very happy to win, and often played my wins. It would have been great if I could do the same for someone else. But damn, too many people seem to be unable to follow even simplest rules, and I want some positive feelings from giveaways, not having troubles with rerolls and dealing with the violators. Oh well.

Because this is SteamGifts, not SteamTrades.
You're not supposed to expect something in return for your gifts, and setting everything to higher levels supports the mentality that only those who give should receive.

The answer is right there: anything over level 0 instantly prevents 85% of the user base to enter. What is the point of a raffle if it does not allow the majority in?

usually it's 5
i think it's quite reasonable since any active gifter are at least lv5

but since SG doesn't save any template, so when i'm bored i'll just click-click-click until it's done....
honestly too much hastle to make a gift

I mean, if I was someone on the outside looking at this site and just saw restricted giveaways I wouldn't even bother - it would set an expectation that you have to give something away to enter giveaways - which is why I do Level 0 giveaways at times (although I'd like to do more)

Those percentages hurt me.

Why use more than 2 decimal places? :P It makes numbers hard to read at first glance.

Hey, makes me one of the 6000 most special people on a random internet site. And my mother said I'd never amount to anything.

Used to go around 3-4 but in the end find it really hard to care who wins my GAs tbh, most of the ones now are free to anyone. If someone seriously wants to use bots to farm games and push up a number on a website good luck to them. Got a healthy bluelist sat waiting for GAs, next time I have something vaguely special to give away suppose it'll be to them.

The irony of this system is that those at higher levels are also the ones who have the funds to buy their own games (or in some cases, gamed the system to get where they are). That's not to say they are undeserving of games, in fact many high level users have had a strong positive impact on the sg community and I'd love to see that kindness reciprocated back to them. The best way to do that, is to show the lv 0 users a good reason to stick around and contribute. And yes, statistically most users will remain lv 0, but that's no excuse to preemptively punish the ones that can't afford to give back or have only just joined.

I usually do on level 2 and above, but it isn't without troubling thoughts..
As both TheTorn and Talgaby, and a few others already pointed out above, this excludes a huge part of the user base, and promotes the idea that only big givers can receive - which is problematic for the site and the community. Sadly, it does this weather it is my intention or not.
However, that same part of the user base is where I've had the most issues (not all, but most) from not following rules, not activating keys, not marking as received, and outright key-was-not-valid-scams. Re-rolls, chasing people, and rude mails, not fun.
I don't want to exclude the new ''zeroes'', they deserve a shot, but I also don't want to deal with the trash ''zeroes'' that come with that group. It's enough to deal with the higher level non-caring users/rule breakers as it is.
At the end of the day I revert to why I came to SG in the first place; It was not to get keys, it was to offload keys I didn't need. That is still the basepoint for me, the wins and the friendships found here have since become more important, but are still secondary in the way that if SG crashes out completely, I will not go looking elsewhere for new friends; I will look for a new place to offload keys (if that makes sense).

Both sides of the issue have valid arguments and we can only choose what is right for ourselves.

When I do do level 0 GA:s it's usually after having had one of these discussions with someone that makes a good argument on why we should, like some of the points brought up here. These arguments/points are so valid they make me feel bad for nor doing them for a while, and then I do some, and are subsequently reminded of why I don't like to... In Sweden we call this the ''squirrelwheel'', it's a closed end looping argument that goes round and round and round and round...

I usally tend to do level 1-2 as i think its kind of no big deal to get lvl1
But i think more importantly i d like some kind of riddle or puzzle or that kind of stuff to enter something.
Why? Because i really dont mind doing them myself to enter something. Most people will agree that it would be nice to know that people really play the games you give away. And so there is some kind of "effort" to be made.. which 'scares' away lazy cardfarmers.
Below me trying to be scary... while noticing that i didnt do much giveaways in the first place and feel instantly ashamed

View attached image.

My reason why\if\when sometime i create level 0 giveaway also for triple AAA games is because i know very well what is mean be poor so i know there is people in our planet that is not able to give away only 1 game just because they poor but this can be people that love videogames also if can't afford it so in my opinion is right that they can access giveaway too , because if NOT there will be a discrimination to them because then only rich people can access giveaways , and this is not human respect.

Some reasons I hardly create any level 0 GA's:

1. Bots and multiple accounts
2. I know its frowned upon, but I'll name them as they are: leechers. People with thousands of games in their Steam library and thousands of $ winnings on Steamgifts yet unwilling to give something in return. And there are plenty sadly.
3. Writing a simple thank you after winning something. Not a big deal really, but imo its common courtesy. I see people who have time to enter thousands of GA every week yet fail to write a simple thank you. And yes, this happens more often with low level GA's.

Thats why I'm creating high level GA's.

The level I put on my giveaways is proportional to the quality and market value of the game, the best giveaways (unbundled) are for my Blue Hearts.

I am still experimenting, but I am beginning to think that level 5 is the sweet spot between giving back/rewarding the users who contributed
to SteamGifts, while avoiding to fall into the pit trap of giving only to the 'rich', which would result in them getting 'richer', because, let's face it, if you can afford to give away 10.000 $ worth of games and own thousands of games on your account, then you can probably get ANY game you want.

I still make lower level giveaways (2 - 3 lvl), but I end up regretting it most of the time, they tend to have terrible ratios and don't even bother to say "thank you" after winning a game, a lot of rule-breakers as well. I understand that people have different levels of income, and some are very young or broke students who can't afford to spend a lot on what is, essentially a luxury, but courtesy is free, it doesn't cost you time or money, there is no excuse for poor attitude.

I did a lot of level zero giveaway and will keep doing, not just because I advertise in those, but what's the point to GIVE AWAY if you can figure out the winner just like those wintraders whose creating giveaways ALWAYS for 5-10 "friend"groups to boost level and then they just farming down high level public/invite giveaways.

Yes, those wintraders can blacklist me, I don't care, they don't have public giveaways anyway:-) On other hands, I am proud to be nonhater as zero pep on BL:-)

What is your reason for creating Level 0 giveaways?

Not caring about some semi-shitty giveaways, public level 0 is hell. I'm not blacklisting for a long while for ratio, but having winners who has 4 years, 7 comments, 240 wins on the site and played close to nothing of it while they are active traders... someone has to win the trash giveaways too, but generally this is why I keep my giveaways level 1-2. Or level 0, behind a simpler puzzle on the forums, to avoid crawler bots. I still think about the site as giving to the community and to people, not just throwing a key into the system that gets dumped to someone who has no presence on the site. That just feels like a good game ending up in a rubbish bin.

This site is supposed to be about giving games away, not trading. I don't really care for winning giveaways these times, I basically only entry my WL ones which is like 10 per month. I have much more fun giving away the games, especially if the other person cannot afford it.

Even with the bots and leechers, 70% of my total giveaways are for Level 0. In regards to public giveaways Level 0 is still the most, but just 1 less Level 3 giveaway and 1 less for Level 2 (around 20% each.)
It's essentially a one-way blacklist if you exclusively do high level or group giveaways, since you can still join giveaways from the users you exclude. It really sucks when somebody wins your games and they exclude you from all of theirs.

I chose to welcome new SG users by giving level 0 giveaway in the Unlucky 7 group. It's a group that give games to users with 7 or fewer wins. It's true that this will not reach every new users (Afterall, not everyone will browse the discussion or can read English), but I believe it will reach more new users compared to level 0 public giveaways.