how am i supposed to win now ;_;
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Thousands of dollas in TF2 items locked forever. Lots of comp players caught cheating too.
Hue.
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That's the best part, since they also wanted to cheat in matches that actually matter.
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I never been in a server with actual hacker but notice several bots advertising it though those were quickly voted out.
But seems that source code helped a lot so a good catch to the user who found it.
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I don't get it quite - how is this going to change anything > soon LMAObox will get replaced with another tool and the asshats who are willing, will create a new steam account and play there without a VAC ban ... since TF2 is free anyway - or am i missing something?
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Basically, what got busted was the pro version of LMAObox, which was still undetectable by VAC (until recently). Because of it, high level-cheaters just didn't bother to make alts, and used the hacks on their main accounts, which were also involved in comp leagues like UGC. Now, you must know that Valve is testing competitive matchmaking on TF2, something akin to CS:GO, and has recently implemented a system to ban all accounts who share the same phone number if one of them is found involved in cheating activity.
LMAObox got busted because (if I understood correctly) its source code leaked, Valve got a hold of it and started dishing out the bans. Also, when you get a VAC on TF2 or CS:GO, you can't trade nor sell items from that game inventory.
So you have:
- several high level competitive players banned;
- several thousands of dollars in in-game items locked in the banned accounts (some accounts had a backpack worth a pretty penny);
- enough drama and salt to live on popcorn forever, with a complimentary big glass of schadenfreude.
That's the gist of it, more or less. Others might be able to fill you in about it better than I did.
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Great summary - i was intrigued only by one aspect, brought up in an enthusiastic undertone in the video "TF2 Cheating is dead" ... but i don't think that'll hinder new "hack" tools and cheaters to simply hop to another account and play TF2 there, despite their low probable loss.
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Eh, cheating as a whole will never die of course, and there is an over-enthusiastic feeling all around. Nonetheless, it has been a pretty hard blow, considering that:
- LMAObox developer supposedly abandoned the project (it was the most used cheat, hence "Cheating is dead" from the video);
- in the first ban wave, something like 3000 accounts were banned between alts, smurfs and mains with thousands of play hours and dollars of items (I was looking at some of them, one had TF2 items for a total worth of 5000 dollars).
They'll likely find or make new tools, open new accounts and get back on the cheating wagon soon enough, though.
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I see - undoubtedly the ones with 5k$ TF2 inventory had the money to burn anyway - as i'd assume some items +
some keys as in mine that amount max 20 - 200$ are the usually the inventory value of average TF2 item-invs.
Anyway good thing they enforced the bans - should serve as a recent reminder, for a while. :D
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enough drama and salt to live on popcorn forever, with a complimentary big glass of schadenfreude.
:'D
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A truckload of VAC's incoming and many inventories locked in stasis forever.
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Fucking hate cheaters so glad they got caught. Never played TF2 myself, but I've heard good things about that game and I hate the idea of assholes ruining the fun for others.
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this just proves that VAC is fairly weak nowadays if they need the source code to make a signature for the hack to be detected.
It's the main reason why CS:GO cheats are still prevalent because not only that .the cheating module is not saved in your Hard drive so they can't be sent to valve for analysis, they are streamed/downladed only when it gets injected to the game and it is loaded only to the memory directly, not the hard drive.
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So basically they use same system Valve uses to block VAC from being analysed against them. Nice. Cheating's not nice tho
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dev actually has a thesis regarding cheating: http://is.muni.cz/th/396115/fi_b/bk.pdf
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Thanks for link, looks interesting, will take look when I have time
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TF2 community was already toxic. I don't like TF2, but I've played it sometimes, and the community was very toxic. If you add the cheats too, then you have a game that you must avoid. xD
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What the point of playing a competitive game if one cheats? Where's the logic in that?
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Some people honestly don't see it as a bad thing. They rationalize it however they can in their own twisted way so they don't see it as wrong.
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I guess some call it "strategy"....
Makes me think of Lance Armstrong who was juicing to win the Tour de France.
But there's no way someone can have a feeling of positive accomplishment when one cheats...
Lance did it for money and fame... Do these video gamers make money from it?
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I think anyone that's punched a cheat code into a single-player game knows the thrill of feeling powerful in a game. Hacks are a way to feel like that in a competitive online game. Thats the only way I can begin to understand it, but why put your whole account at a VAC risk?
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But there's no way someone can have a feeling of positive accomplishment when one cheats...
so much this
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I know this is not a big deal for those who don't play TF2, but for those who do, this is probably a happy day (unless you got banned as well).
For those who have no clue what I'm talking about, Lmaobox is a software for cheating in TF2 and it includes wallhacks, auto-aiming and a bunch of other stuff. The premium version of it was undetectable by Valve, but they finally figured out how to detect it and banned a lot of people. What this means? No more frustration while playing TF2. At times, you were lucky if you could find a server without someone hacking. Not anymore, though.
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