Not looking forward to go over 10000 entries but it's bound to happen sometime, anyway even on many store pages themselves i see a game named so different, so what is correct spelling.

F.e Candle in the wind, i see it also as Candle In The Wind, or Candle in the Wind, When do you use capital letters in such cases?
In this case Candle in the wind, should be correct right?

And if a game is all caps do people really put all caps too in their lists?

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i do steam version - whatever it says in store

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That's how i done it also till now, but i dunno maybe some OCD kicking in how it doesn't look always properly in the list. :p

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what is your goal then? beautiful or correct list?

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A beautifully correct list?

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Exactly. :p

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A beautifully correct list.

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When I do tables in the forums I mostly copy the Steam store page. Sometimes I shorten the title though, for example Stealth Inc 2: A Game of Clones just becomes Stealth Inc 2 instead because who cares about the full title in that instance?

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I would go with: Candle in the Wind.

It looks more natural for me that way.

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But okay if you go that way what words would be without a capital letter, all prepositions? in, the, on, of, or etc?

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Yep, all prepositions and articles go small, unless they start the name of a phrase. That's more or less how my not-so-ordered compulsion goes. But my lists have many heresies, maybe you do not want to listen to me. :D

Heresy 1: no colons! Back when games came in boxes, often they had "BIG TITLE" on one line, and "Subtitle of Fortune" on the second one. Some people write this as "BIG TITLE: Subtitle of Fortune", but I decided to go with "Big Title (Subtitle of Fortune)" always. No colons.

Heresy 2: no roman numbers. For me, it's Final Fantasy 6 -- that's what makes the Excel Sort function work as expected.

Heresy 2.5: sometimes I add numbers where they do not exist. So I have "Assassin's Creed 07 (Syndicate)" in my list. Again, I do this so when I sort them by name, they come up in the order I like.

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:p

Thanks you (and true about such things as Final Fantasy, i got my list in Excel too).

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Final Fantasy numbering could be a college course. The thing about adding numbers to things, it can be pretty difficult with remakes, I always call DOOM "DOOM 4", but there are some remakes which don't fit, Wolfenstein (2009) has two more games until Wolfenstein II (2017). I think maybe adding the release dates would help especially with remade series.

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What Thexder said, For Final Fantasy i also used Final Fantasy 02, 03 etc in the end.

Adding date is also what i would do in such case, or when you got a game that's called the same (i'd also add genre), i believe there is 1 game called 4x the same by different publishers, when they use basic names like Light..

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I'm curious, how do you decide on the numbers for series that don't have a clear order? If I'm not wrong Assassin's Creed has a few side games that are cannon.

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Well, there is a bit of voodoo magic involved... :D :D :D

For the Creed series, I went with:
Assassin's Creed 01
Assassin's Creed 02
Assassin's Creed 02.5 (Brotherhood)
Assassin's Creed 02.5 (Revelations)
Assassin's Creed 03
Assassin's Creed 03 (Liberation HD)
Assassin's Creed 03 (The Betrayal)(The Tyranny of King Washington)
Assassin's Creed 03 (The Infamy)(The Tyranny of King Washington)
Assassin's Creed 03 (The Redemption)(The Tyranny of King Washington)
Assassin's Creed 03 Remastered
Assassin's Creed 04 (Black Flag)
Assassin's Creed 04 (Freedom Cry)
Assassin's Creed 05 (Rogue)
Assassin's Creed 06 (Unity)
Assassin's Creed 07 (Syndicate)
Assassin's Creed 08 Origins
Assassin's Creed 09 Odyssey
Assassin's Creed 10 Valhalla
Assassin's Creed Chronicles (China)
Assassin's Creed Chronicles (India)
Assassin's Creed Chronicles (Russia)
which is almost random, I agree, but it also makes a lot of sense. Maybe. :D :D

(Yeah, I kind of gave up on the parentheses for the newer entries)

Cheers!

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That's some dedication.
Seeing all of them on a list makes me aware of just how much Ubi likes this series, meanwhile it has been years since the last time Prince of Persia had something new.

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To make fun of myself -- I have only a few of these, and so far I played none. :P

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To tell the truth that was what I was doing when I did care about gamelist.

Now in the end gamelist does not exist and I just have all games on Steam together and only 1 other list created for games that I did played and finished/found boring/didn't like - all in one list of Played games and I just move them from main Steam list there.

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Candle in the Wind is correct as a title

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I don't have a convention, but I like to keep it close enough to the Steam title so that when you search for it, it displays the correct result.
Capitalise important words, I'll usually remove caps for preps, etc.
Some games have ™ or ® or other random rubbish - I tend to remove these - Some Japanese games like using stupid;punctuation in their titles as well, I sometimes remove that.. And like spooky says, I tend to shorten the name if it's convoluted.
If a game title is ALL-CAPS, I will only take Caps off if I feel it's overkill.

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I follow these two guides, as they summarize what I recall from school:
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/capitalization-in-the-titles/
http://www.superheronation.com/2011/08/16/words-that-should-not-be-capitalized-in-titles/
See also https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/capitalization/rules-for-capitalization-in-titles.html

If steam's title is wildly different from the correct capitalization etc, I might go with the steam version, but so long as my version comes up with the correct result inside the steam search, I will correct it in my personal files.

I will also, as spooky said above, shorten titles in my own files at times.

I hope this helps!

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I will certainly have a look at the provided links, thank you.

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I generally do what most people seem to do here, but sometimes I just have to change the name. For example, Total War: Warhammer is listed as TOTAL WARHAMMER in my files because it’s clearly a better name.

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Expecting a new game series Total War: Hammer

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I shudder at the idea of doing this but I'll probably have to soon, the other day I was searching for some of the DRM-free games I saved from my Desura account before they went defunct and found out that my files are a complete mess with no organization whatsoever (they seem to even be spread across two or three partitions of the HDD), making finding the game I wanted a bit of a headache.
I'd go with Candle in the Wind cos it looks nicer BTW.

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I'm just curious where you're using these lists!

I have file/folder naming conventions for audio files, movies, shows, etc, but don't really have one specifically for games.

Also, in case you haven't resolved it for yourself yet, "A [Game Title]" and "The [Game Title]" is another thing to consider. (For my music, I would always use the "[Music Title], The" form.)

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How do you mean where? As to what purpose when you can just see in the client what games you got? Yeah i guess, the only time i opened it up so far was always for myself and when i put in new games. :p
In the past i did swap games through mail atleast it was necessary to show lists.

I use Excel, one time when i had about 2000 games or so there was this website that showed what games you had and with some easy copy and pasting i could put it in an excel tab without doing any extra manual work to (can't remember the site and don't think it still worked anyway) from there on i put in every game i received, if it's software, DLC i give that a coloured field.
It's ordered: A:Gamename, B:Steam (for the combined version), C: type (Game,DLC etc) and D: ✓ if the game is played 100%, so that way i can also order by DLC if i wanted or which games i 100% finished

I have another tab for GOG (even though i barely get new games and can put it with the "other stores tab" like Epic, Desura (yes i had 1100+ games there), and then a combined tab, where i just copy and pasted everything together then you can easily see where you got something double.

And then that's only pc games, i should put in consoles too, music is so much i am not even gonna try touching that, there is so much "hell" in that like genre, pretty much why i also won't touch genre on games.

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Yep, that "where" was pretty much what I was curious about!

And yeah, I agree about "genre" being a pain with music. That was the one ID3v1 tag I would always leave blank, or delete if it was ever tagged for me. I listened to many different genres and subgenres of music in my mp3 heyday, and never once had a use for that tag.

I suppose I have my listing for games on The Backloggery web site, which are manually added, but I gave up on adding all my Steam games. On my personal key spreadsheet, I'll also list the title in more than one spot, often with the activation title and a regular title which typically I'll match to the Store page on Steam. Sometimes I'll list sequels as "II" and "2" just to make sure I find the row if I search for the game later. So really, no hard and fast rules for my game listings, so long as I'm able to identify what it is.

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It would also been nice if you could get your steam client clean from such naming stuff, and i believe that's possible, but after steam updates it all just reverts back to the old names?

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I find it's a lot easier to not get hung up on this stuff when I don't have 10,000 games to organize.

In any case, veebles is correct:

I use whatever the dev called the thing, it's thier work of art, even if they are an illiterat git, fool or tool :)

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Title case (Candle in the Wind) unless I know the actual store page title capitalization, then I go for that.
One argument why, well... "Superhot" just doesn't look as recognizable as "SUPERHOT". Nuff said. :P

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C4NDL-31N7H-3W1ND

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Thank you for the Cyberpunk 2077 key!

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Y0UR3-V3RYW-3LC0M

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Wow! So generous today!

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Mine are as the steam api returns them. I add the subtype to the name for easy reference if its not a main appid.

If the steam store page is open and active, my script will look at the URL and get via the api the name and other info to add to my excel sheet.

As for as identification of a particular game I have the name and the appid.
Name and URL col would be populated as follows.

Tales from Candlekeep: Tomb of Annihilation
/app/663380/

Tales from Candlekeep - Asharra's Diplomat Pack (DLC)
/app/750340/

Nullysun Soundtrack (Music)
/app/734810/

Note I add the (DLC) or other subtyps as needed to the name for my spreadsheet. The steam api lists them without that in the name but does have the type as one of the fields.

I have a note col for those case where a game name may be part of a series but not obvious where it fits.
This also contains other special cases or other data as needed that I don't have a dedicated spot for.

Names do sometimes change, but since I have the appid as a col I know if its a case of the game page being renamed.
There are a few cases of more then one game having the same name. diff appids and completely different games.

not everything is "app" so I keep that part as well. a number alone may not define exactly what I want.
/bundle/12029/
/sub/337102/
are both valid steam entries.

Other tabs contain other stores and other purposes.


Now for a tangent if your using a spreadsheet with critical data.

A good spreadsheet is essential. Mine is also synced between home and work in an encrypted drive. I almost had a heart attack when I noticed them not in sync and did not know what was missing or modified. I had many backups but trying to spot difference between them is impossible for a spreadsheet that can have data changed anywhere within the file, let alone trying to find the differences going forward in time from copy to copy since a single line may have been changed multiple times.

I bought this to compare sheets a couple years ago.
https://www.scootersoftware.com/index.php

It took time to learn how to used it properly and then many hours to work forward though the various backup copies but I was able to fix everything. I've since used it at work to fix issues as well.

The encrypted file does have an indicator if there was an issue (I was unaware it did that) so I autocheck that every time I open the file so If there are any issues I only need to compare two files and can fix anything before it becomes a problem.

... Well, that got longer then expected.

🤷‍♂️

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I don't gather lists, but for these forums and trading I will just use whatever that specific site uses.

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