I made a giveaway, and the winner told me it was a dupe. Ok, it could happen.
I found some extra keys for the same game and sent another 2 and he says they are dupes .... again.

Now I'm sending him the rest of the keys I have, and I'm 99% sure some of them are working.

If he still says they are dupes...how do I proceed?

Thanks

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Unforgiven trials? If u got this keys from shady gleam giveaways, yes - they can be used

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Buy from the humble store from now on ;)

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Certain sites are known for key issues (namely GMG, who has an official "no support provided a week after purchase" policy; Bundlestars and Indiegala have also been known to have issues, and Humble gift links have been reported to sometimes invalidate if you wait too long to link them to an account after generating them). More respectable bundle sites will often replace keys, if it hasn't been too long since the bundle.

Past that, bringing it up with site staff may be your best option to start with.

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I did not know that GMG had that kind of policy, and that they do have problems with keys sometimes... Thought they were a hundred percent legit. Guess I'll be thinking twice next time before buying from them.

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GMG is known for several shady elements- the most public of which is several instances of them selling keys for games that the relevant publishers claimed GMG didn't have distribution rights to (the most notable of which may be witcher 3). This is primarily assumed to be GMG exploiting regional purchasing, by buying regional (but not activation restricted) keys and marking them up for sale in countries with more valuable currencies, but "it fell off the back of a truck" mentality has been hinted at as well.

GMG has themselves officially stated that they don't offer support after a week from purchase, that they won't replace games purchased for the wrong platform (even when the listing of the wrong platform was their own fault), that any indication that you're activating to any account other than your own (eg, anything from purchasing for Steamgifts, as a gift, or to activate on a family member's account) will revoke support for the entire order in which such implication is offered (including for any games actually intended to be activated to your primary account).

In addition to their habit of consumer-unfriendly policies, GMG has been known for their extremely rude customer support.

That said, I haven't heard any real indications that their keys don't reliably work within the initial week period, so if you stick closely to their "activate within a week onto your own account" mentality, and you're careful about the listed platform, you really shouldn't have issues with using the site. In that, it's a matter of knowing the site's quirks- just like how you need to always make sure to immediately back up IndieGala keys (they've a rare, but consistent habit of randomly, completely and permanently shutting down individual user accounts [I lost around $35 of keys from that, myself] ), or be aware of how to assess purchasing risk and deactivate shield on G2A.

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Humble gift-link (game received from someone) cannot be attached to your account.

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Not sure what you mean there, but to clarify, Humble Gift Links operate by transferring both the activation and support rights to the giftee, and are considered "attached" when an e-mail becomes linked to the gift. At that point, the giftee can use the order resender to access the key at any time (as it isn't treated any different from any other of their purchases after being linked to their account), and directly request assistance from Humble Support if there are any issues with the key.

Think of it as being similar to transferring an old Steam gift to someone else's Steam inventory.

In any case, for a duration there were several reports of, for people who generated gift links and left them sitting for months without them getting linked to an e-mail, gift links reporting that they'd been used (when they shouldn't have been) [as in, they'd been sent to and had their ownership linked to an unknown e-mail]. Whether this was a security hole or site bug or other element was, as far as I'm aware, never clarified. If I followed the matter correctly, Humble did replace all problematic links, and there haven't been any reports of issues since, so it's more a general reference than anything that's likely of any present concern [and, for the especially cautious, can be avoided simply by not generating gift links until you're actually ready to use them].

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https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/hhThscz
Read this. I've explained all here.

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i'm not saying he's doing anything wrong. I got many working keys for me at the same time I got these, that's why it's weird.

Anyways, i gave him all i have. I'm not trying anymore. Now what? If he still doesn't mark it as received, do I get penalised? I'm ok with that, if it's not too bad. :)

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I believe if you activate a copy yourself it will then tell you ether that the key is a dupe or that you already own the associated game

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it checks first if you have the game. so in that case you won't get the information whether it is a dupe or not. and if you get that info, you still don't know if the winner activated it on some other account.

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Right, I meant more that if you already own the game you could check to see if the next key works before sending. Nothing you can do about the keys already sent.

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steam is not saying they are dupes

it only says i already have the game

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It is not possible to check a key when owning the game already.

Just to clear one possibility, you didn't get those keys from a site called dupedornot or marvelous? Because those have higher bad-key rates.

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  1. Misunderstanding (misspellings, blank checks)
  2. The key was restricted in a specific country
  3. Fraud (trying to acquire two keys)
  4. Key is incorrect (Please ask key buyer)

The other party can not make it effective. You did not have any problem typing.
Probably 1, 2

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Did he provide a screenshot? Does it say duplicate or invalid? If all keys are invalid, then they may have been revoked by the developer or publisher.

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+1
screenshot. Yeah.
That way is better.

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he only said they are dupes, and i kindda trusted him...the first time.

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If you're talking about your Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade giveaway, the winner has 8 not activated wins.
Looks super shady for me.
Use sgtools and don't get scammed.

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Thats change everything 🐤

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Best delete that. It may be deemed as "calling out" as people can find out who you mean.
Btw, why is that person not perma-banned here?
Edit: I guess that's how they finance their Steam trading center ;)

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Because all 8 were from a 3 month period back in 2015. He probably didn't know the rules and got suspended for all of them at one time, so it's not like he was suspended, told the rules, and then came back and kept breaking the rules. He has activated about 95 wins since then, so it seems he is following the rules now.

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Thanks Bibo, but for me pointing mere facts, that can be verified with just few clicks by anyone, is not calling out.
It's just a warning for the thread creator to check and judge the situation by himself.

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Seems you have been tricked. Best advice was to ask a screenshot when the first key was problematic and send a support ticket.

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dont make giveaways for less than lvl 3. that usually solve the problems.

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If you try to (test) activate the key on steam and you already own the game then the key will invalid after that ,or will say the key is already been used(or they offer to recover the account that the key as been activated on, but for that you need proof + the id and pw to that account) its a way steam screws people into buying more keys...

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Is that really how that works? That's really annoying and limits the way you can check your keys, jeez...

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That's not true that the key is invalidated if you own the game already.
Looks like an anti-steam rant.

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LoL i'm almost a valve/steam employee or as close as you can get.

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WTF are you talking
Nothing happens to a key if you already own the game

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Unless they changed something within the last month, attempting to activate a valid key on an account that -already owns the game- does -not- deactivate the key. (With the exception that owning a standard version and redeeming a key for a deluxe version will activate the deluxe version on the account thus using the key and giving an upgrade.)

I have received multiple keys from random-game gleam giveaways and have to attempt to activate them in order to find out what they were. When found to be something that I already owned, they were given to friends who activated them successfully.

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That's not true that the key is invalidated if you own the game already.

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Yes it is , I've done it many times by mistake then sent the key to a friend and he said the key is invalid or marked as used , i'm not making this up , I got no time to waste...

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Yeah sure, that’s totally a proof

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It's total and utter horsesh*t that a key is invalid after you activate it on an account that already owns the item associated with that key. Stop spreading lies.

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lol do it and see

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That site you got them from (bitdealgame.com) looks shady as hell.

If you got them from their giveaway section - since I don't see them for sale on the site - there's a good chance they are actually dupes because they were probably farmed from gleam giveaways.

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I got a few working keys from that site at the same time I got those. I'm not saying they are not dupes, just that is weird that all are.

Let's see what happens with the rest I sent.

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OK, this matter is resolved. :)

Winner got a working key. No need for ticket after all.

Thanks everyone.

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Good , but now you lost a buncha keys :/

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no problem.

i actually got them to cover for the first one he said it was a duplicate. it took me only a few minutes to get a bunch of them.

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Winner got permabanned by the way.

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I was lurking around to BL him but guess i don't need that. Yay!

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He's suspended not banned. He can eventualy open a ticket and ask support to come back later if he "clear" the 8 games he has not activated.
Permaban isn't permanant suspension.
See the difference: https://www.steamgifts.com/user/konrads6

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Reported for calling out konrads6.

JK :D

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#FREE KONRADS and his brothers!

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He's a legend :P

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View attached image.
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I don't expect him to ever do that so it doesn't matter. Also i thought i haven't seen Konrad in ages, This day is getting better!

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Huh. I had no idea. Even though it's highly unlikely to come back from a permanent suspension, thanks for clearing that up!

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Someone won 1 of my ga last year, when I checked his profile he had 5 or 6 non activated games, so I reported him. It looks like he tried to hide it, or at least to confuse people, because all the non activated games was deluxe/complete version or games with close name like Frozen Synapse/Frozen Synapse Prime and he had indeed the base games.
So he got perma suspension. Few months later (less than 6 I don't remember exactly) he cleared those infractions and he's back now.
Maybe this happen more than we thought.

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I've always removed people from my blacklist once they were permanently suspended thinking they will never come back. Gotta stop doing that from now on >_>

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I did that too.

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What a surprise

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Tomorrow it might be me.
I'd like to reshare peace with redanilap as soon as possible.

Aerannis https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/3cJfa/aerannis Rank1

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bump!

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One less scumbag on SG. Nice!

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Here guys some keys of games I already own that I tried to activate last night on my account,
you can try them out if you don't own the game, but I don't think the'll work , well see.
59QPD-H57KM-G5LK4 Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade
L3Y0H-ZV8QF-VK5CG Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade
IHZQ9-DTCXB-KL6GQ Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade
RV9EC-3J7I7-KQI8T Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade
Y8GQ4-JGZIA-DA4AT Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade
WWNXR-7V7CD-0I76A Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade
M5R7G-FGJBX-4V9WI unknown battle
9LV0D-R7INE-58DTP masked shooters 2

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Last two show as duplicates for me, I own the first game

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This proves what I'm saying , you can only activate a key once , if you already own the game and you try to activate it again with a key then that key will be invalid/dup...these key are all new only tried to activate on my account 1 time (steam message was I already own that game).

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That's so scummy on Steam's part

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Ya I first started suspecting this last year , by getting keys from random GA's, so I had no choice to try to activate on my account and when it said I already own it , i would send it to a friend who's then telling me it's been used or a dup, I'm there telling him wtf & scratching my head, i didn't used it just tried to activate it, so the keys are no longer valid...

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I sometime do this and key, normally works, even if i tryed it

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Strange , well my friend is a bit retarded maybe that's the cause, but I don't really think so cause I send him keys almost everyday and they work, just those i've tried first don't...

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If you want to try it, do you have The last door: season one?

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just tried to get a free copy on gmg but they said there outta codes for now :/

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, if you already own the game and you try to activate it again with a key then that key will be invalid/dup

not true

you posted them public, someone or a bot redeemed them

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Instead of saying its not true or I'm a liar test it yourself guys its easy to understand , if you don't mind losing a key.
(You'll need a steam friend you trust for this).
I tried to activate them , the are no good anymore cause of that (btw this is just for testing this crap theory I don't care about the keys got them free anyway).

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You can activate the same game 50 times+... on your account if want, just delete it from your library , then activate it with another key for the same game , then you'll see the list of keys/ activations then you choose witch one you want to reinstate to your library

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test it yourself

I've done that plenty of times

the keys got them free

yes, that's the reason many of those never worked in the first place

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Those keys that weren't good steam said so as duplicate or already used recover account , these keys I posted didn't say that it said this game is already activated on this account...

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game is already activated on this account

when you own the game, that message always comes first, whether the key was used or not

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I'm just trying to pass some info to you guys I'm not here to argue or discuss this for days , I feel like I'm talking to lucas arts staff...

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And I'm trying to explain how it really is.

You simply came to the wrong conclusions because the free keys you got didn't work in the first place.

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Maybe but man this as been going on for a year and I get keys from different sources some from GA's some I buy some are given to me by dev's... btw I have 8 other keys I didn't use for better games, i'm gonna send these to my friend tonight and see i own 3 of the 8 games i'm sending him, i'll try to activate the 1 of the 3 i already own then send and see if its a dup ill buy him another key.

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okay, so I just took a key for a game I own and tried to activate it. Through client & website, says I already own it. Okay so far.

And this same key I now just activated on another account and it worked.

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Ok so my friend is a retard i guess :/ or i'm getting screwed somewhere!?!

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getting screwed somewhere

possible, as said, free keys are often unreliable, bundle ones shouldn't have a high failure rate, still can happen sometimes.

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i almost never go on instant ga sites cause i know the games are crap and don't want them in my collection , i have enough with steamgifts+ what i buy, i got a serious backlog too many games and only one me :/

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Checking your history... (we have to dig information...) I suppose this is for Unforgiving Trials: The Darkest Crusade.
A game over used for giveaways by shaddy spammers in the past.
With lots of known dup cases, and same people are now regifting previous keys on dedicated sites to recycle unused yet keys...

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checking my history wth is this...I never gave away a key I got for free on steam gifts

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OP's profile not yours ^^

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k I'm getting gung-ho here , anyway point is made. sry Omi :/
"topic derailed"

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He scammed you

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