Feel bad for you :c Scummy people are just scummy people, they'll always exist, can't help that.
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I know they exist but the person leveled upto 4 using that tactics!
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Don't worry, once they get banned they just wasted their time, they lost the games because they re-gifted them and they lose their account too for violating site rules. So they gain nothing from it.
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I agree with you..but giveaway creator needs to be careful!
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True, but to be honest it's a lot of work to doing investigation on a person's profile, and in a lot of cases you will have indicative suspicion but you can never be 100% sure unless you wait 7+ days and see the gift still not activated. I don't want to wait 7 days, and if you don't wait 7 days you have no proof that he didn't simply GA some other key/gift for the same game, and therefore you have no right to stall the gift. Best thing of course is to report suspicious behaviour, but even if you do that, you still have to send the gift while the admins investigate.
EDIT: Okay, disregard that, I forgot you can simply check if he waited 7+ days to activate someone else's gift. My bad. Then it's fairly simple to check. :)
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Yes but its not hard to check 1 month ago wins or multiple wins of the same game...
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sg already tells you if you own a game. can't someone make a scrip that compares games owned to games won? i know mods maybe overburdened but we got some really good scripters in the community.
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It already exists : http://www.sgtools.tk/activation
Be aware that it sometimes gives false positive, so you will need to manually check the user's library for the game that appears to be not activated to this script.
Of course, it the user's Steam profile is private, this script will not work.
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EDIT::::::::::: after refreshing the site a couple of times it changed to all activated.... weird.
Hm, the site says I didn't activate any of my gifts, .... Wouldn't rely on it. All of them were activated, this is actually quite ridiculous.
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When people do that they tend to make hesitant decisions, for example if I just won a GA and few hours later I gift the same game, you think I'm a regifter but actually I'm just gifting spare key/gift that I don't need anymore. Then you could check my Steam profile of course, but some people might not have activated the won gift immediately. Since you do have 7 days to do so. So basically I could have won a GA, not activated the game yet, made another GA with a spare key I had, and people would think I am regifter even though I'm not and you don't have proof either. So no matter how bad it looks, only the admins should be allowed to punish people (they can check if it's actually the same key/gift). If you suspect something, report (and maybe stall your gift) but you can't reroll without proof of misconduct.
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I think you should activate the game as soon as you mark it as received, but don't quote me on this
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Good point. Yeah, I'm fairly sure that's in the rules, so that would be grounds for reporting at least.
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No, even if the game is marked received, the winner has 7 days to activate it.
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I personally Activate the game first before saying it's received. Making sure that when I mark it as received it's already in my library. However if the game doesn't work (hasn't happened yet) then I'll instantly mark it as not received and report.
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I do that to, I was just pointing out that an user that marks a giveaway received without activating the game will not get suspended if the giveaway ended less than 7 days ago.
If you get a key that doesn't work, you can't instantly mark it not received, it's not possible to click the not received button before 7 days have passed since the giveaway ended.
Instead, you should contact the giveaway creator (either by leaving a comment on their giveaway or adding them on Steam) to explain them the issue. It could very well be a mistake. If you still don't get a working key, mark it not received after the 7 days have passed. There is not need to submit an user report though, marking the giveaway not received is enough.
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I agree, everything I win goes straight into my library, I see no need to place it in your inventory or anywhere else for even an instant.
I also pretty much only enter for game I think I'd like.
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You can still remove the received feedback if it turns out the key isn't working (although I personally think that it's better to activate the game first)
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No, you can do it as easily as marking the game received, you simply have to click on it again and it will go back to "awaiting feedback".
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No, actually you can't. You need to wait 7 days to mark it as not received after you already marked it as received
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I never said marking not received, I said removing the received feedback, setting it back to "Awaiting Feedback". You can do that.
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Ohh, now I see. I misunderstood what you said, sorry :)
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Now there are some tools gaining popularity for fast-check.
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I've caught a few level 4's ... one guy I caught multiple times. Not sure if he's been banned/suspended yet though.
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are you sure it regift, since , do a GA of a game that you just win is not something too uncommon
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sorry to say that much sense I have to check the profile for months old giveaway has been activated or not
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I didn't understand that at all. Is it a yes, or no, or 'I don't know', to the question?
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He means am I sure its a regift.. I stated i have checked and found over 6 are re gifted
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Yeah, but my point is how you check for regifting. If you can see that it's been a month and he didn't even activate the games, then it's obvious. But if he simply made GAs for same game after winning, but did activate, then it's different. You should make clear which facts you observed.
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I check 1 month ago wins contact the giveaway creator and he stated he already reported as he regifted it. Next I move back to 2014 and find games not activated and same given away.
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Unfortunately there are some shitty people out there.
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I notice like 10+ regifts a day... its getting really bad with the large number of promotional dev giveaways that have been onsite lately.
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The promotional ones really irk me. So many people must have those games by now e.g. Rush Delta, Overture, yet the number of entrants never seem to go down!
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Yeah, I still haven't won Faeverse Alchemy ffs :D
I'm also sad that I didn't win any of the Parcel mass GAs a while ago, was really interested in this one
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Fair point. Didn't know there were so many members! :) Still too many regifters entering those promotions though.
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While not necessarily regifting, I find those who contact devs and end up with free keys in exchange for promoting their games here just as bad. There's at least 2-3 people I've seen here who keep giving away keys for the same game over and over in giveaways of 1-2 keys at a time (the devs are also giving away the keys for free but in giveaways of a couple hundred at a time). And all they have to do is promote the game in those giveaways. They get free games, they get free CV to gain levels and as long as this is allowed, they keep doing it. I'm not sure why those giveaways aren't listed as bundles because at this point, I can't imagine anyone is buying the games when the devs have been giving away thousands of keys over the last month+ all over the internet, not just here.
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I feel like blacklisting you(don't worry I won't)... because you have so many won games.... and not so many given away... Because i hate people entering games they ain't gonna play.. Guess just jealous.
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Sadly regifted giveaways do not get deleted when successfully regifted, so they keep their contribution :/
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yes I guess so but such people are really increasing a lot these days!
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found another guy from Brazil from your winners, he did not activate 2 of his wins, and it's not an error from addon to check this.
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Yeah I noticed the same and gave him a nice place on my blacklist.
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i feel a little uncomfortable when people are reduced to their nationality and their contribution level and judged based on those
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You just can't call out, that's why we don't say names, not because of anything else.
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This thread is probably going to be closed when a mod sees it anyway, since these users can easily be found on OP's profile
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I guess so but no names have been stated anywhere I think
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Yes, no one is going to get suspended for calling out, but threads like this one still get closed, because even if there's no direct calling out, it still allows users to go on a witch hunt
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Well I wanted to cause some awareness so that people will check when they give games to the winners to reduce such
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Nobody can state names as it will be calling out. So it not reduced to their nationality its just a way of reference rather than XYZ
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That's not true. They will get deleted eventually, but we have restrictions placed on deletion powers.
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it takes tons of months, since not all support members can do that.
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UPDATE - the level 4 winner was already reported for regifting a previous win :P
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Thats sad.
I wonder how many people that joins the giveaways and don't win would do that in the case they win.
Because that happening in 4 of your giveaways is not a coincidence at all, its a pattern to be watched carefully. Just consider how many people join each of them.
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I had to re roll 4 or 5 times in a giveaway due to all winners being regifters!
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I had a guy win one of my games a few months back that, after checking, I found has regifted over 10 of his wins. It's really too bad. :(
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Yes we should check and a rule should be made regifting once will be 1 week and more than once ban for good
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Actually this is how it works already. So as long as you report them and they are found guilty, he won't have any long-run benefit from re-gifting.
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I know but found another sad stuff..the person has been reported months back already for regifting and still didnt change his way
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Pyro is my favorite class in TF2. :p
Anyway shit happens i guess. :|
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That's terrible. Did the winner at least mark the gift as "received"?
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nope didn't send the gift :P
went for a reroll and he will get suspended I guess
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Sorry I guess you must have done something as you name is there in my google docs for some comment
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Ok, thanks anyway. :) I probably know why you've blacklisted me. When I was new on the site, I wanted to regift a game I've won, but I've deleted the giveaway at least. :p
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only happened once. and the great support rerolled it in hours.
btw, i'm blacklisted. wonder why. doesn't actually matter ;)
thanks for the GAs
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you are blacklisted as just group giveaways mostly with 0 entries...you dont make public ones at all
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Hm, I wonder about the same, what's the reason for me? And yes, thanks for the GAs.
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lol.
do what ever you want. but i have a lot of private ones of trains.
and some public completely with no lvl. you want to judge? enjoy :)
won't BL you, cause see no reason to.
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Thanks for help. I accidentally marked the GA as invite only.
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I took the habit to check gift activation of every winner of my GAs, which is very easy to do now with the useful SGtools script. I made 30 private GAs recently (advertised in forum) I had to reroll 2 people for not activating previous gifts, one was level 2 and the other level 3. 28 winners on 30 were not rule breakers, that's not so bad :)
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Yah still its a good figure for you :D
The tool is good but it makes mistakes a lot so need to check them one by one
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Well, it's true that it shows often false positives, so one has to check manually user's library. Sadly nothing can be done with private profile, they can do whatever they want without being spotted...
By the way, some games are tricky to check because they are considered DLC (old Sega games for example).
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yah if its private nothing can be done.. sega games are tricky so i avoid those
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If you get a winner with a private profile, create a ticket for a new winner request and ask support to check for activation
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Thanks for the info. I didnt know about this. I generally do not check people with giveaways done more than 50.
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Sadly nothing can be done with private profile, they can do whatever they want without being spotted
You can create a ticket for reroll and ask support to check if they have their wins activated, that's what I do.
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In a recent GA of mine I also had issues with a level 4, who had re-gifted its way up to that level.
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Maybe its sad that 4lv people regift, but also its sad that you sometimes missjudge people :P Some time ago I was suspended because of you because two reasons:
- I won a region blocked gift (it was before "mark region" funcion on steamgifts) so i didnt activet it because I couldnt, but i had it in my inventory all the time. Mods removed it from my "won" list when i contacted to contributor.
- I won payday dlc 2 times. I believe that steamgifts have problem with dlc's so I have now blacklist this dlc, and still have a second copy in my inventory, because contributor did'n respond to me.
Maybe my example will give you a little faith in people ;)
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Well if you had already won the dlc why did you enter again!
The dlc i have I dont enter for them at all!
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I accidentally won a game I had once. Because 'total collection' in the title was not being synced with the games individually for some reason. I asked the guy whose GA to seek a new winner and returned the gift. It isn't hard. If one has region locked gift return it and ask a re-roll for a new winner. How hard was that?
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It wasn't hard, but I was a new user here (yeah my profil says that my acc is 2 years old but it not means that i use it so long). When I contacted with support they told me what to do and thats why they removed game from won list and suspension.
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You only have yourself to blame, not OP...
- You shouldn't have marked the giveaway received if you were gifted a region locked game
- You shouldn't have accepted a copy of a game you had already won
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Ok, I just wanted to give nice story and now everyone wants to blame me. Nice community ><
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Nobody is blaming you. You should learn from your mistake and make others learn also that you shouldn't win something more than once.
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I already did my lesson some time ago. And I consider it rude to instruct me now.
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And you don't consider it rude to blame OP for mistakes you have made ?
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Were I blame OP? :D Support reacted for report -> its ok. Support also helped me to solve case. Point of my story* is that sometimes people missjudge other people. I understand why I was reported, thats why I dont have bad feelings for agniswarm. I considerd this topic to good chance to explain myself to him, and show that not everyone are so bad. Also I'm a bit glad that people who respect rules so much that they verify all winers exists. It's a reason why i started to contribute here XD
*Maybe my english sux and my communication skill failed :/
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I was suspended because of you
I guess I just took this too literally.
Anyway, how do you even know OP's the one that reported you ?
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I dont know if i understand your question :D
"I was suspended because of you" -> its about agniswarm, its a response to author of this topic (he is not OP I think?). How I know? Because my suspension was after i won a game from him :D There was reroll, so it's easy puzzle to solve XD.
Agniswarm sorry that I'm talking about you this way, not bad feelings to you. As i said before I'm glad that people like you exist and you do great job. I'm just example of person who unintentionally made some mistakes and fix them also because of you :)
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OP = original poster, so agniswarm
What I meant is that when you said that, it kinda sounded like you were blaming him for your suspension
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Oh... ok :D Now I know who is OP :D I thought in the category of operator / admin / mod or sth like that xD We learn every day :D
Also I thought that last line of my post is clear that the whole story is about sth good :D
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When you are having trouble with a gift, whether because you ended up with a copy you did not want or cannot activate a win, please contact Support. Our job is to help the users of this site so that things can run as smoothly as possible. At the very least, we will be aware of your circumstances and protect you from false accusations.
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Yeah support help me a lot then :P I am very pleased how support works here :D
Oh and it wasn't false at all. I't was few coincidences and mistakes. But all with happy ending :D
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What message? more to say "thank you for the giveaway ;)" or "thank you have a nice day ;)" I do not say xD
never insult anyone or anything, what I could have said that will block me? : /
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Sync Account should just check that every won game exists in the person's library. The only issue would be false positives with games that are not detected correctly.
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I highly recommend this:
http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/6fClz/userscript-links-on-profile-to-steamgifts-tools-real-cvnot-activated-gifts
It adds links on each user profile to access the sg tools faster. They are by far not perfect (thanks steam api) but they're very helpfull And if you're using them regularly you start to recognize the ones that are shown as false positives. I do it with every winner of my giveaways nowadays, no matter of group, invite or public ones.
Gladly I had only one person winning, that I had to report because of a not activated game.
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This make me feel bad being a LVL 4, I thought it was like a pretty decent or standard level for SG user who follow the rules.
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My giveaway ended and the winners have regifted the games they won. I can't even believe the level 4 winner went on regifting and leveling up. The sync account should be improved to check a game or two from the users on a monthly basis.
Thank you very much support for going on rerolling. I am really unlucky to have so many bad winners.
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/nH781/
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/8eVPZ/
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/N9MfS/
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