POST UPDATED.

Bullshit

This is the list of countries where you can play the game if you buy it from South America. HOWEVER, PLOT TWIST, unlike your usual region and trading restriction we don't actually get lower prices. The only country from the list with lower prices is Brazil and it seems like Konami took the usual route of big companies where "Brazil = South America as a whole" and blocked the rest of us as well.

I already contacted Konami via twitter and facebook (Including their MGR facebook page) but I don't really expect anything to get fixed or to change at all. I do know from which company to NEVER wait for their games ever again though. All my hype about this game is gone now, thank you Konami!

Gamehub thread

Thread at NeoGAF discussing the regional lock system.. At least read the very first post please.

Also stop mentioning GFWL games that are not on your steam store. That's another issue completely irrelevant to this. We're talking about a NEW restriction for steam games you're allowed to buy.

Wanna bother Konami about this? Do it here and feel free to post any extra links where we can bother them about this.

8 years ago*

Comment has been collapsed.

Join the club. Baltic countries have normal EU prices, but we are considered to be CIS (Russia).

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yup, you have the most ridiculous Steam pricing/region locking ever I think. Both highly expensive and region locked. Really lolz.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Not to mention that our wages are 1/3 or 1/4 compared to rest of the EU.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

That's what you get for being communist scum. :^)

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Your an asshole. Actually our country was pretty wealthy before Germans and Russians fucked it all up.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

i'm from Chile... i'm really sad now

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Costa Rica is not even in South America and we have region lock too
Also same price as USA

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Deleted

This comment was deleted 3 years ago.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I know it's a long shot, but PLEASE send your complains to their facebook and twitter pages. Show your presence, show that you CARE and we may be able to fix this together. This is the same kind of shit that happened when people from India won the new nexus from a kitkat promo yet they were going to deliver a highly outdated version to them ONLY while giving the last nexus to the rest of the world.

People from all around india complained and they ended up fixing it and get their updated nexus. SHOW your presence, they're literally discriminating all of us just because of Brazil's lower price. This even made it to NeoGaf, I really hope somebody at Konami reads about this issue over there. If they don't care about their SA customers then I will sadly have to forfeit my intention to purchase this. I'm still trying to get a ROW copy via trading but that's pretty much impossible right now and the sale's not going to last much longer.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Welcome to the real world, it not the first case something like that happend.
I don't really know why you are crying about it
yes this means that if you buy this game through steam someone from other then listed coutries cannot acctivate it/run it. but it also means that you can find someone to buy it from brazil cheaper and you can play it when the rest of the world cannot do the same - profit for you i guess. Also i assume (can e wrong) that if you buy this game from other site (amazon?) you can activate it and get region free version, it also doesnt seem that you will have to pay more than buying it from steam

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

So just because it's the real world is OK? Do you think I don't know how the real work is like? What the FUCK are you talking about? What do you mean you don't know what I'm "crying" about? Can you at least read the thread before posting such nonsense?

If I buy it from steam I will NOT be able to play it anywhere else but South America. I have no need for a cheaper price, I was waiting for the sale to start to fork the 20 bucks but now I'm unable to. Amazon has the same price but I can't use it because they (Obviously) don't accept Paypal. My only way to get a ROW version is via trading...

...which opens the question: WHY SHOULD I TRADE FOR THIS WHEN THE STORE HAS THE SAME PRICE PEOPLE PAY FOR A ROW COPY?? Why in the world am I supposed to accept a region and trading block when the price is EXACTLY THE SAME as the ROW copies from the so-called First World countries? Why is the ENTIRELY of South America affected by a locking that was obviously meant to be applied for Brazil only since they're the only ones with a lower price?

Do you HONESTLY see NOTHING wrong with that?

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's not anyones fault that you don't have credit card to buy from amazon.
I don't know how often you are leaving this entire south africa so that you will have problem with region lock.
region lock is always an inconvenience i don't say it isn't but that's not the worst scenario that you are talking about.

I can tell you how Bethesda is screewing Poland from the time of Fallout 3 (this case also affects other countries like Czech and Hungary if i'm not wrong). I think(hope) it's the only company that thinks Poland is still in Soviet Russia giving them a RU version.
Let's look at the price of Dishonored now on sale - US $7.49, UK £3.74$6.12, Europe (with Poland Czech Hungary) €7.49$10.23. paying even 25-40% more for region locked game - yes it may happend.
let's try to bypass it - RU vesrion is cheaper in Russia right? Sadly Ru version cannot be brought as a gift.
So let's buy ROW version outside of steam, i have credit card, friends/family in UK, seams reasonable when you will pay even less, right. NOPE. 'ROW' version is still region locked and doesnt work in coutries that have RU version available
I didn't say there is nothing wrong with the your case, I just think you are slightly overreacting. You can bypass it one way or another, while there are some things you cannot

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The main problem here is that this is the first game with the NEW region lock system (Actually second, one software/game was released 12 hours before with the same properties) and it's screwing an ENTIRE CONTINENT because of ONE country that has a price discount. It's a really bad precedence for an entire country. The price is the same, the currency is the same, then why is an entire continent getting region locked while the first world countries have no such lock? That's a massive discrimination. In a perfect world you would be able to actually sue them for that, but this ain't no perfect world...

Is it really relevant if we move out of our continent that often? It really isn't. Also we're talking about South America, not Africa, but you are right, the situation with Bethesda is really really awful and I'm happy that I never liked their games. I heard a lot about the issues with their games on steam and they will keep it like that until people from Poland do something about it. Or worst case scenario, nobody buys their games and they can go rot to hell.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

"Is it really relevant if we move out of our continent that often?" yes cos if you won't i don't see that you will feel any difference between having region locked and region free game. It will work the same way. IS there any way it will affect you? I haven't seen it in any of your comments. you just keep saying that you don't want region locked game just becouse.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

And why should we accept that our copies are region locked when we don't even have a lower price? I do expect to move from this place eventually. Saying that I WILL would be unwise and I can't see the future... yet. Sometimes you have to move for X or Y reason, even if you don't want to.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's easy to say "I don't care, I don't see the problem" when the problem is not affecting you, honestly I think you sound like an asshole, it doesn't matter if the guy who purchased the game will never get out of South America, the only thing that matters is that this stupid lock is unfair because people is paying full price for the freaking game, the lock should be just for people on Brazil, I can't understand why on the earth you would need more explanation than that, it's unfair and it doesn´t make any sense, period.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Bully and Manhunt also have a stupid regionlock. :/

But because of other reasons...

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It sucks, yeah, but what can you do?

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

And this is the kind of attitude that gets you nowhere. Is not about what I can do but about what all of us who are affected by the same issue can do. If nobody else raises their hands then nothing will happen. If complains start to pile up then shit is bound to happen.

I already did my part. If nobody else does shit then I'll call it a day and be done with this game. Not gonna buy it until it hits 80% off. I have almost 500 games to play I can fucking wait until that happens.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

simple, don't buy the fucking game.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Problem is, that wont fix a thing, so we need another solution

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Best way to vote, is to vote with your wallet. Don't buy the game they will consider changing their strategy for selling their products. But fat chance that it wont work at all because you will be the minority complaining about it.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Let's say: Konami sucks.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I'd have to check a map, but if "the countries you can play the game" are listed in that pic, what country in SA is missing that can't play it?

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I hate you Konami. (and you too Sega)

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Because this is the first time there is regional pricing on Steam

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Do you understand what's going on? This is not a matter of regional pricing. The price is EXACTLY THE SAME as the ROW copies. Read the DAMN thread before posting. It's not so hard, trust me.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I wish I had those prices tbh. But yeah, steam price conversation already sucked and having lower tier pay more is bad new for some.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The price is the same though. And this is actually the first time this particular restriction has been implemented.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

This is the first time trading and activation restrictions were made for steam purchase and gifts. Guess they wanted to block all those lower price gift trades and make life miserable for those who never even received lower prices by giving them these restrictions too.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

not available in my market.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

La-li-lu-le-lo

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Technically not available in my country. But since we don't have a dedicated steam store, I just buy it from the US one.
And since the US and ASIA mostly share the same region locked games..

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

You forgot to unlock it.

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

Thank me later.

edit : but seriously, I agree, it sucks.
8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

that skey key doesnt work for me :(

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I'm from Heaven, whats your problem?

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Heaven has regional restrictions too, you didnt check appid?

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yo he tenido que comprarlo directamente desde Steam por 13€, si no tuviera esas restricciones lo habría comprado a algún trader ruso por 3 llaves.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Estas restricciones tambien estan activadas en Rusia. Cualquier copia comprada desde Rusia solo se podra jugar en Rusia y otros paises cercanos de la zona.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Por culpa de esos "lo habría comprado a un trader ruso" es que existen estas restricciones regionales genio, por culpa de tipos como tu existe esto, paga limpiamente lo que te corresponde, deja de ser una puta sanguijuela, cuando están las ofertas de por si los juegos están baratísimos para que más?? La avaricia rompe el saco y en este caso ya lo rompió.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Es lo que hay, algunos preferimos pagar 10€ en vez de 20€. Si quieres pagar el precio completo de el adelante, pero yo mientras me pueda ahorrar un céntimo voy a comprar los juegos de esa forma "genio".

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Oh, sorry. I messed up and deleted my comment :(
Yeah, incorrect region locking is ridiculous.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

that's happen to me with super street fighter iv arcade edition & street fighter x tekken can't see them on store

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's not the same thing. You can't SEE it on the store (And yes, that's because of GFWL, don't worry it will be removed soon... well maybe in a few months), that's a normal thing on steam. The issue here is that MGR has the SAME price as USA yet you can ONLY play it in South America if you buy it from here (Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, etc).

This region locking in particular is a new one (A new string on steam gift database) but the main issue is that we're paying the same yet get a product that is not ROW like it's supposed to. Furthermore Konami is literally discriminating the entirely of South America just because Brazil has a slightly lower price. Instead of just region locking the Brazilian copies they region locked all the copies from SA.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Ridiculously locked in Petoria too :(

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It seems they remove that limitation, check the store again

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Nope, they didn't at least for me xd

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's still there. They have less than 24 hours to remove the locking and actually sell more copies. Sadly it's Konami so they won't do shit. Oh well, their loss.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I checked that again, and yep, still there.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Just me or is this guy overreacting? Region locking has been done on Steam for quite some while and is not limited to just Steam, so I'm not seeing a problem here.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Just me or this guy is not reading at all? The issue here is that you can't play the game outside of South America even though you pay the same price as USA, Europe, Canada and other places! In Dollars and all.

The region lock has been put to us ONLY because of Brazil's lower price. Brazil is the ONLY country in the entire continent with a different price yet we all are affected by the region locking anyway. Why should we pay EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE as USA yet get an inferior version of the game? Why should I NOT be able to play it ANYWHERE when I'm paying the price of a ROW copy? This is the first time something like this happens (Maybe outside of some country in the CIS that had no price reduction yet had region locking anyway) and it's setting a really bad precedent for a whole continent that's getting discriminated because of one country alone.

It is a mere inconvenience set to a whole continent for the sake of being an inconvenience. There's no reason for such gifting AND play lock when we pay the same price as the people who can buy a ROW copy. HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE PROBLEM HERE? Are you BLIND?

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

First of all, how is the South American 'inferior' to every other version? It's just the same game.

Secondly, it looks like you're just able to play the game around the globe when activated. So it's NOT a region locked game it's just a trade/gift restriction. Which I think is fair. The trading feature is something where the developer can decide to support or not.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I don't mind the trading locking feature, it is fair indeed IF I were actually paying LESS for the game. Even that feature is wrongly activated here.

The store still says that I'm only able to PLAY the game in a selected list of countries. It may be wrong wording but you would think that it would've been fixed by now.

It's just wrong to lock the entire continent because of one country alone. I don't want to know what they're going to do once they release those other 2 Castlevania games. Why would they do this to us? We're not Brazil!

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Meanwhile Dark Souls is blocked where im at in EU

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Is it blocked as in "I can't see it on the store" or as in "I can buy it but I can only play it in certain countries"?

The former is a common occurrence among GFWL games and is not what we're talking about here. The latter is the main issue. We're able to buy it, but we can only play it if we are in our continent. Konami is treating the entirely of South America as if we were getting price discounts like Rusia or Brazil does, yet we're actually not getting a discount at all and we're not even paying in our own currency but in dollars.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The Metal Gear keys sold by Nuuvem are cheaper than Steam ones and can be redeemed in South, North and Central America... It's not the solution for everyone but can be useful for some folks...

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The main issue is not where you can redeem them but if you can play them outside of your continent. Those keys are probably ROW anyway so yeah, it's a good solution if you have the means to buy from Nuuvem or Amazon.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

They are still the same thing as you get on Steam because there is no separate SubID for them.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Of course they don't have a separate SubID, the new locking system no longer needs them. The locking itself is flagged in the steam gifts' info, it's ONLY a steam gift property, it can't be set on steam keys.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The locking is stored in Steam database. No separate SubID means that it doesn't matter where you purchase the game it'll be locked to your region.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Please read the very first post here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737020

And feel free to keep reading the entire thread.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Please provide link where a Valve representative confirms that and/or explain how the absence of SubID for retail key comes into play. Otherwise stop wasting everyone's time.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

That is not even the main issue here. The main issue is that an entire continent is getting region locked because of one country having a lower price. How is informing about such big thing "wasting everybody's time?". I'll ask you to, politely, go eat a dick if you think that an entire continent deserves such treatment just because one dude at Konami thinks that Brazil is the only country in the entire continent.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I am a vagiterian.

If it's true that retail keys aren't affected then there is no issue at all.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's an issue if you can only buy from the steam store (And why should you NEED to buy it from somewhere else?). The price is the same as the countries that receive ROW copies.

You have an entire continent with region lock because of one country alone with a lower price. All the countries are affected and can't send gifts to another continents nor play the game outside of South America, and there's no issue at all?

You know what you're right, all the people who posted here and at NeoGAF are wrong, the region locking is correct, the trade locking is correct, putting every country from the entire freaking continent in the same bag as Brazil yet not give them a discounted price is right. You single-handedly solved all of our problems, congratulations!

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Me being tight doesn't mean ony of that. All what it means is that not everything is roses for any region.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

You said there's no issue here at all. I proceed to explain the issue to you, you still refuse to acknowledge the problem here. Why do you even bother to post here?

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I can't sleep and have nothing better to do.

It's not an issue if you can buy a game elsewhere cheaper and without any restrictions. If, however, my theory will amply born out it'll be the issue.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's an issue for the people who can only gain access to steam wallet. It is also an unnecessary restriction based on only one country having a lower price. I am more and more convinced that somebody at Konami thought that all of us had the same discount and just pushed the wrong button and locked the rest of the continent because "Pffft who cares? They're animals from third world countries! Now please push the button to give ROW copies at the same price for Europe and North America!".

As a South American, we HAVE the rights to complain. We're being treated like second rate customers. You, in Russia, have the same lock yet can buy the game for 10 Dollars.

Me? I have to ask a friend to buy it from Amazon or somewhere else for me, then send the money + fees to him via paypal and now I have to wait until the key is delivered in 3 weeks, instead of just being able to buy the damn game at the same price as people from USA at the steam store and already have the game as part of my library.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It´s still an issue because retail copies never come to South America (or if they do, i dont know in wich countries, but they only bring EA titles mostly)

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I'm from Brazil, and for me this is a reason for not buying the game. That's how we should show that we care: Not supporting these region locks

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

To be fair your country actually has a lower price. It's because of Brazil's price that the game has been locked in the entire continent. This only shows how incompetent Konami really is. They can't tell the difference between Brazil with their official steam store, and the rest of the continent that has no official valve support nor store.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yes, I agree they are totally incompetent.
I won't buy any region locked game, because I don't want us to get isolated like some regions are. I really liked it the way it was (and I'm a Steam customer long before having brazilian currency suppport). I mean... of course I'm interested in lower prices because in the average we earn less money here than in US or EU. BUT if the price for it is getting region locks I simply don't want it.

Also, a lot of games are a bit cheaper in Brazil (since launch), but none of them until now were region locked. This is not needed.

8 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Closed 8 years ago by rednavi.