100 000 dollars but can never fish again in your life
I find it boring, my dad tried it with me a few times when i was little, but i rather went home to the computer.
Also using worms i find disgusting.
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So, do I understand it right, that you prefer to abuse plants?
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Oh my god. A) plants don't have a nervous system and don't feel any pain and B) what do you think cows, chickens, pigs, oh and fish consume?! By that logic, eating animals is "abuse" of both, plants and animals. Jesus Christ. 🤦🏼♀️
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They nevertheless has other systems to react to damage, so in a way they "feel" too. And that's your logic, not mine. I believe that we have to eat (surprise), and fishing and eating fish is use, but not abuse. Fishing for fun is abuse though, because that's unmotivated cruelty. Same as cutting the plants to eat is okay, but if you cut the plant just for fun - that's abuse. Also, Jesus Christ is a fictional character from an old Jewish fairy-tale, I have no idea what it has to do with this conversation.
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Nah, it's just the delusion for me. Whatever you need to believe that you're doing the right thing. The fish are still needlessly suffocating and suffering but since it's all for the pretense of ~food~ that suffering is obviously alright. Anything for them good ol' taste buds. We're living in 2022, not during the time the fictional character you're apparently so obsessed with was said to be alive – other actual food options are readily available 🥱
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Any food requires killing of living beings, be it animals or plants. I would love to be independent from food, actually, it would solve so many world's problems if people did not have to eat to stay alive. But in reality it's impossible.
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Vegans just can't get it, whether in 800 BC, 2022, or in a million years. Animals are there to complete the life cycle, in which part of it is being food for humans. If you're just going to avoid eating animals then that's your loss. Nothing will change in this world the fact that you don't consume fish/chicken whatsoever. You are not contributing to anything but promoting your beliefs. I would rather fight for endangered animals like rhino's, or some species of whales for example than fight for a chicken that's almost never going to be extinct.
Why don't people eat cats or dogs? Simply because they are not created to be consumed. That's why they are kept as pets. If you have a dog will you not feed it chicken? Will you turn it into a vegan as well and let it die?
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Cats are a better example than dogs. You can keep your dog healthy on a vegetarian diet (not sure about vegan), but cats will go blind and other stuff if they don't get their meat.
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I sort of like fishing, but only do it like twice per decade, so I can definitely live without it I guess. I rather just buy the fish when I wanna eat fish.
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I probably fished last time during my university years, so... yeah, I would trade for $100000, since, sad as it is, I doubt I'll be fishing again anyway.
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I support fishing for self consumption purposes, now, for sport (with the exception of invasive species that harm the native species, I dont see an issue with fishing them for sport) or massive industrialized fishing not so much.
I used to do a lot of river fishing using small harpoons with my friends, and the best thing was that if you swim for long enough you get suuuper hungry and whatever you manage to catch will taste like heavens even if you are not the best cook.
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I don't enjoy fishing as a sport or simply a way to pass time, and am not a fan of catch and release. When I go fishing, I am trying to find dinner.
But from that perspective, I would never give up fishing for any reason. I would rather have the skill to fall back on if I ever fell on hard times. And even in good times, free food is always welcome.
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I don't like fish. They're coarse, irritating and get everywhere
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100 000 dollars but can never fish again in your life YES
But 100 000 dollars but can never hear music again in my life NO WAY DUDE !!!
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I've never been fishing but I'm not a fan of the taste of fish so I would have no reason to do so. I don't really like the idea of fishing for sport, either.
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100 000 dollars but can never fish again in your life
Lol, I'd even say yes for half of that
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Like "50 000 dollars but can half-never fish again"?
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I wouldn't stop eating sushi for that money. But fishing itself? Eh, easily.
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I did it with my dad when I was younger. I always felt bad if I later that day saw a dead fish floating, always thought it was my fault. So when I got older and I had less free time we did not go anymore. But I don't really miss it. So I would take the money.
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Does this include ingame fishing? If no then yes I'll take the money, otherwise no 😁
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Fishing was a relaxing bonding activity for me when Dad was alive. Life's gotten so busy and it isn't the same without him, so I'd take the money.
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In my case I lost my uncle who was the "second in command" and he is missed but now I take his grandson fishing with my father and me. If you can continue to share and enjoy not fishing itself, but those memories that are generated and revived are worth it to escape from this life that oppresses us sometimes and hits us hard.
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In short, there is no money that pays for what fishing has given me and will give either to me or to my offspring.
Warning, at the controls of the keyboard there is a Spaniard who speaks English at medium-high levels, so misspellings and localisms can be expected
My experience
Here in the south of Spain, about 8-9 good months per year in which the temperature and climate allow fishing from a boat, either with a rod or jig and underwater with a speargun or trident. Like any father, mine wanted his hobbies to become mine (soccer, fishing, tennis, basketball...) either by attending or participating in said hobbies. Fishing was the one that left an imprint on me.
The early years (7-15)
At first, touching fish is not the most appetizing sensation (there being some poisonous or dangerous) and even less so if we entered cephalopods (octopus, cuttlefish, squid) and that made me wary, so basically I accompanied, I was a passive fisherman to call it something, in winter he helped on the boat as a cabin boy with the hooks and in spring and summer for underwater fishing to carry gear, catches and the signaling buoy (safety above all).
Little by little, i enjoy the depths, the biodiversity and the few frights sometimes due to the sighting of either barracudas, makos, sunfish, or dolphins. Memories that could well have triggered more fear than interest in this sport, which at that time for me was basically walking by the sea with my father.
Going to the port at the end of the day to declare the fish and to be able to say what we have fished together was a great feeling (although I did not fish yet)
The first escapes (15-25)
With my recreational fishing license just taken out. I began to be an active fisherman either with my father or with friends. Getting up before the sun to go out with the boat to the open sea in winter to fish was a contradictory experience because you got up early you were cold but each fight with the line was unique, in this case squid and cuttlefish (in the breeding season their hunting is prohibited and at other times there are minimum measures with sanctions), known because when they are taken out of the water they tend to throw ink at your face (of course, the first time no one tells you because it's funny). Little by little, gaining ease when it comes to controlling my breathing and beginning to take a more active role when it comes to underwater fishing and applying what I learned in the license courses on sustainable fishing and prey selection, the hobby changed. in competition either with my father or friends. Due to trade between Vikings, Muslims and piracy in the Mediterranean there are many remains of ships, cannons, anchors, amphorae on the seabed. In relation to this, he discovered in a bad way that taking objects from the seabed without declaring them is a crime, in this case a Phoenician amphora. In the end they just gave me a warning.
To this day and beyond (25-38+)
When i was 25 the boat sank (sometimes I visit it on diving trips)
The sinking incident
I was not present but it was always told to me like this: On a summer day like any other day they went out fishing and on the way back the sea became rough (big waves), the boat when going up a wave turned over, throwing the crew (my father and my uncle) into the water with everything else that was on deck. On the way back they had everything well secured (the fishing in a crate and the tools in backpacks) the heaviest part, the stern in this case, since the engine and anchor were in it, was the first to sink. Putting the boat in 90 degrees pointing the bow to the sky (the opposite of the titanic) slowly sinking, without panicking they took out the life jackets to secure everything they could carry to the shore leaving the extra marker buoy to return later with sea rescue for the engine and check if it was possible to rescue the boat itself. In the following days with scuba diving equipment they found that the keel was damaged at the rear and there was a hole in the side of the hull. They salvaged the engine and all the equipment of the boat that was not bolted to it. Bought in 82 the years had not passed in vain wounding him for life to lie at the bottom of the sea since then.
Even so I continue fishing from the shore or from the rocks but less. On the underwater the me. Due to global warming and, as always, due to the mispractice of some people, the ocean floors have changed, they have not been lost, but the protected spaces and the tightening of laws as well as the conservation movements mean that today you can continue enjoying that that at first it was going out for a swim and enjoying the views, which later became a sport with family and friends today. Responsibilities allow me to enjoy less and less visits to the sea but it makes me look forward to them more.
To this day my father keeps trying to get me to like the other sports and hobbies he tries to instill in me, but the only one I enjoy and will always enjoy regardless of the obscene amount of money they offer me is fishing either above or below the water.
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And funny that you can still visit your old boat. How is it looking after those years?
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It is found at a depth of 14-15m, it is face down, half-buried in sand deposited by currents and a little tilted, the entire keel and the lower part that is now the upper part is full of algae and small molluscs such as limpets and barnacles, it is almost melted with the environment, except for the steel parts (handrail ladder handles) are still in good condition and make it easy to identify from the surface by reflecting natural or artificial light, all the old cabin that was the useful surface of the ship is now an artificial cave where I have sometimes found conger eels, octopus, triggerfish and some good-sized grouper.
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Wow that is so cool! And quite deep no? I took an introductory course in diving but we only went down a couple of metres. But I live in the centre of Belgium, so having diving as a hobby is not that easy. But I would love to dive to a wreckage one day. And beautiful to hear that nature is using it right now.
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I have dived in most of the Mediterranean coasts except Balearics, Atlantic ocean in Madeira and Gibraltar and Thailand. When I was in top shape and I was younger, 15 meters was ok, but today is difficult. A person used to lung dives is usually between 5-10m. But as in most things in life, the greater the distance, the greater the risk/reward. From these depths, visibility and pressure become barriers that make these areas more cared for since fewer people reach them.
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Yeah that is what I read as well. I only dived in a pool and on Tenerife. I also did some free diving in Mallorca when I was still a swimmer. Now my fitness is not good enough anymore. But damn, those sound like some beautiful spots to dive. Which would you say is your favorite (apart from the one at home ofcourse)?
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Madeira was a huge exponential leap in terms of contrast, being in the Atlantic, being an island in the open sea almost everything, in 3 days I was able to experience swimming with whales, see big fish like hammerhead sharks, marlins or tuna and see large schools of fish . The opportunity to have encounters with so much diversity for me is unparalleled.
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Crazy, I would have expected that that would be the case in Thailand. But I will look into that one! Do you have to go deep to see all of that or can someone without a license do that?
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Due to the rocky character of the island, each hotel in the southern part has a small port with access to the sea from which you can enjoy biodiversity subject to depth since in a few hundred meters from the coast you stop seeing the bottom and the currents are stronger. In contrast, the north currents are less and with the standard license you can enjoy diving more relaxed. (rent a guide or boat recommended) As always, encounters with animals in the open sea are sporadic and unpredictable, luck be with you.
And in Thailand there were two days in tourist places, one guided to see nurse sharks and the other free to see white sand coral bottoms, being subject to tourism the areas visited were well cared for, backpacking outside those areas it is possible that the tourism filter lets you see another type of wilder scenery I don't know if I'm explaining myself well.
The Canary Islands will be my next objective some friends there told me theres a lot of good spots to visit
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I really enjoyed the dive in Tenerife. I saw a cuttlefish and they were way smaller than I imagened them, so it could have been a young one, cause I thought they ate crabs and such, but in him there would definately not fit in one. It was my first real dive, so I think I would have been happy anyhow, but I would recommend it.
And would you say that the north or the south of Madeira is better for a less experienced diver like me? I am at easy in the water, so I don't think a bit of current will be a problem.
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The south "Cabo Girão" to the west of Funchal the capital due to its proximity and comfort, when looking for its name I found that a ship was withdrawn from service and was sunk.
"The ship was sunk on September 4, 2018, south of Cabo Girão, off the island of Madeira, where the former NRP Afonso Cerqueira will fulfill its final mission, creating an artificial reef and providing a habitat for numerous marine species which will be his last garrison."
Being at a depth of 15m the upper part of the boat and 30m the bottom where it rests seems to me a great point for choosing this place. I hope that time has treated it well and since it is a protected space it should be the same or similar to when I was.
Having been in 2012, I recommend that specific place for recreational diving and knowing about the sunken ship now I want to go again you know...
the sunk (https://youtu.be/YRSJau5l0to)
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Yeah that sounds really cool! It has to be for later tho as I don't think I will be allowed that deep without a license. But I will definately keep that in mind. Thank you!
And I was the video and wondered. Why would they sink the ship on purpose instead of dismanteling it in a shipyard? This can not be good for the environment right? Like I get that nature takes over and that a reef maybe can form, but I assume that the ship is not the best place to start a reef?
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Good question, dismantling them normally is expensive because of the workforce and by sinking them they generate, on the one hand, money for tourism and the capacity to create artificial reefs for more marine life. Removing the chemicals that they may contain such as oils, or petroleum derivatives in addition to plastics, only the metal remaining, the contamination is minimal compared to that which would be generated by dismantling and recycling it. As humans, the issue of recycling will always be a subject pending improvement. It's sad but true.
I found this sentence searching info.
"Shipwrecks can have a similar effect on the underwater world by adding new structures for marine life to inhabit. In addition to creating habitat for marine life, shipwrecks can also create new places for scuba divers to visit."
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Yeah that maybe is a good point. Would love to do it one day!
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Ha! Reading your story was quite an interesting experience! Thank you very much for this adventure! ^_^
I especially enjoyed reading about the remains of ships and various artifacts, as well as the amusing fact that no one tells you about the ink which is about to cover your face!
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I'm glad you enjoyed.
By talking to friends who live in similar areas along the coast and are either recreational scuba divers or fishermen. We agree that the history found on the seabed is enough sometimes when you make an outing. Fishing isn't always the trophy, sometimes it's coming across a sea turtle or playing with a jellyfish.
As I say about the ink, it's like an initiation rite because when you're the one who sees how someone receives the jet, you remember how you suffered it for the first time too.
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Mosquitos!
I hate fishing, my grandfather took me to go but to this day I still despise the outdoors. Lakes are super gross and I still don't see the appeal.
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I'm a horrible hypocrite who prefers to imagine that the meat she consumes grows on trees, so yes, absolutely, I'm not keen on killing live beings for fun anyway.
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That's really hard question... I think it's better, that I can fish, than get so much money, because fishing is lifestyle hobby
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Definetly it has to be defined...
I never thought fishing with harpoon and so on...
I practice fishing (spinning - catch and release) as a hobby mostly, I relax being on river side (it cleans my mind after a crazy day at work; I don't prepare it or cook it, so I release it after).
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C&R is very sustainable and if you do it correct not too unhealthy for the fish.
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I know and I'm aware of that, but will always be people pro and against every single thing, good or bad.
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I relax being on river side
A bit off topic - but Its actually similar to a lot of small time hunters. Its very relaxing to be in woods and walk around when you hunt. Even when there is no game after a hunt.
I personally could probably live without fishing, but IMO for someone to fish and catch their own fish (and same for hunting) its better for environment then to pay and consume industrially grown fish and meat (which I am of course against and would love to cut out of my life)... So in a sense this is also a discussion of not just hobbies but affect on ecology and your health
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I don't practice it at the level to affect the ecosystem...
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Neither do I
But I like that you can get the fish/meat yourself and not fill your body with chemical and low nutritional food. I have self caught fish or meat maybe once in several months.. Then again - we can't outright ban industrial fishing and husbandry as I doubt we could sustain ourselves if we all would fish and hunt ourselves... But just like with electric cars and similar topics - every little step you take is a step closer to a global goal.
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Well, that would count as fishing i guess, if you actually get anything. I guess all methods intended to catch fish in rivers, lakes or the sea would qualify.
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I would eradicate the whole concept from the world for free, so yes I'd gladly take the 100k. 😉
(mostly talking about the overfishing of small fish to feed farmed fish in aquaculture)
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Yes, i have seen a documentary about it. It is very bad. And i also fish this kind of fish so i'm partially supporting it (Rainbow Trout from fish farms). One step you could do is eat less grown Salmon, since i really prefer fish i have caught myself, and also preferrably wild fish i guess it's not that hard.
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gib me Discworld book collection and I will support ban on fishing :D
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I would never do this. Half my life is fishing. Although i rarely draw anything over 9 pounds it is fun and you get to be outside a lot. What's your take on fishing? What could you never live without if it isn't fishing?
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