This is why we can't have nice things (Batman Ninja rant- sort of)

no, there isn't

Normally, a Japanese anime is finished, and then given to the localization team to translate / subtitle / dub, etc. The writing and script are already done by the time the localization begins.

In this case, they were developing the Japanese and English version simultaneously. And since the Japanese normally write the story and dialog at the very end, there was no script or dialog for them to work off of. And since they didn't know what the Japanese artists were drawing, or had in mind, they kind of had to watch the anime and make it up as they went along.

I'm going to wait for the fansubs too. Amazing that this is still a thing

What?

Nearly all new cinema stuff are made for kids/teens.
A good story is not needed. Only ""good"" looking actors -they don't need (and mostly don't have) acting skills-. A, good, story would only bring the attention away from all that KABUMM Action Scenes that don't need more then 0,001% of brainpower.
(ironic and sarcasm.... and yes i don't like the most "action" cinema movies because they are made for kids -i prefer stuff from Quentin Tarrantino as example.... good actors, mostly a good/interesting story, good dark humor and much action :-D-)

That's a pretty, um, incredulous claim. What are some strong examples of what you're talking about? Especially since it's "literally" all of them?

I don't know much about dubbing, and even less when it comes to anime stuff, but the accusation that they're basically inventing their own stories seems totally insane. It's a hell of a claim even accounting for some accepted levels of hyperbole and the obvious generalizations (like treating US translations as some collective processes instead of a shit ton of companies doing a lot of different things across a lot of different media). I'm alternatively wondering whether there's even a real inspection of how it works in reverse (or specifically when dubbing between any other two languages), and whether the claim isn't just some huge unknown double-standard.

Like I said, I don't really know much about the specifics, but even based on the little I do know that seems just straight up false. I've never heard anyone call it adaptation either. It's just so surprising that the most logically way of even parsing the accusation naturally raises suspicion of monumental hyperbole and totally unrealistic expectations for syncing lips and language variations among all the natural translation discrepancies in the first place. You've got to have some super great examples here cause, because just based on any experiences watching dubbed works with subtitles on it's very clearly pointing to the above interpretation, and maybe in conjunction with some unrealized double-standard too.

Not to like drag you through the mud here, but that seems HUGE if true.

It's a joke

It's a lie. They cited Miyazaki and Ghibli has the most complex creation process I've ever heard of. Also cited manga adaptations (that already has an script. The MANGA)

In manga adaptations this kind of work flow is mandatory, because they produce a chapter on weekly basis. They know what to animate based on storyboards (based on the manga), and lip animation is often only animate the mouths on a still character.

Nothing to do with the actual work of movies. Look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsVqAq-guhc

The difference is that they may have a plot in mind, if not dialog. And that the dialog is then written by the folks who made the anime, rather than translated from the Japanese.

But, honestly, the dialog in anime isn't that important. The reason I watch 99% of anime subbed is that I greatly prefer the Japanese voice acting. I find that while games tend to get good voice actors with good direction for their English audio - such that I almost always prefer the English audio to the Japanese - the dubbing efforts for anime are usually lackluster, with poor voice acting and vocal direction.