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We weep openly and go outside into the sun.

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What is this "outside" and "sun"? o.0

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Outside, a free-to-play MMORPG developed by Deity Games and the most popular game, with 7 billion+ active players.

https://www.reddit.com/r/outside/

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Eh, I was never interested in multiplayer. I think I'll skip.

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Microtransactions for literally everything, bullshit company.

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Pretty P2W, but awesome graphics

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The griding is neverending.

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7 billion players on one server lol. No thanks, think of the lag.

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I had a girl hit my character and he didn't notice it untill the next day.. Damn laggy shit.

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That's called traffic by normies.

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lmao

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Valve releases that DLL that lets games by played without the client, essentially turning all games DRM-free. People will have 30-90 days to download the games and store them on somewhere, before the servers shut down.
Assuming they live in the European Union. In Murica and other places, they can just use that little part of the service agreements that turn all games into actually indefinite licenses, and practise their right to revoke the license at a given time, meaning they just shut down and that is it.
(And meanwhile, everyone who shopped at GOG and Humble Store to a degree, just chuckles and shrugs.)

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(And meanwhile, everyone who shopped at GOG and Humble Store to a degree, just chuckles and shrugs.)

Came here to say essentially this.

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Don't worry little one, you and everybody you know will be long dead before Steam dies.

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But how will my great grandchildrens be able to play with my Steam library then?

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Well in the TOS it states the account isnt transferable. So they would need to buy their own games.

But in 2060 you will be able to get a bundle of 40 current AAA titles for 5 dollars or 300 smaller games for that price, so they will get it back quickly.

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Shout, shout, let it all out, these are the things I can do without

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Come on, I'm talking to you, come on

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In violent times, you shouldn't have to sell your soul.

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In black and white, they really really ought to know

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Those one track minds that took you for a working boy

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Kiss them goodbye, you shouldn't have to jump for joy

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You shouldn't have to shout.

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Just leaving this here for some of the young ones :)
Shout

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It's not going to shut down unless people suddenly either 1. Stop playing/buying games (this is very unlikely to happen) 2. Someone starts targeting gamers (we are legion, so this is impractical as fuck) 3. Nuclear war, mass EMPs or another form of massive technological infrastructure destruction takes place (The world will have bigger problems than just steam being gone if this is the case). 4. A competitor establishes themselves and offers better prices than what steam is offering (probably impractical and will need to be a major undertaking for the competitor). In short Steam is a market place that has established itself as trustworthy and reliable enough to make it highly unlikely and impractical for Steam to be simple shutdown. It would need to be something big.

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In short Steam is a market place that has established itself as trustworthy and reliable enough

I'd rather use the term "is a marketplace that has achieved monopoly by being the first and amassing a large enough library to make people stick around".

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They werent the first though..... stardock sold software and a few games before steam, theres probably other stores as well.

And other competitors could have a big library as them. Problem is, people dont want to switch, so that will probably make steam last for waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time.

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There were other online stores as well, but I recall Steam going global with AAA games of different publishers. Even though at the start it was practically nothing more than an obnoxious, terrible online DRM for Half-Life 2, even if people like to comfortably forget that.

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Well they improved so no sense in keeping mentioning it. We dont talk about how nintendo had love hotels in the past for instance.

I just remembered that years ago EA offered to buy steam. I wonder how it would be if that purchase succeeded. EA certainly seem to have the power to have something as big as steam. But they probably think its not going to work. Specially due to the negative image that they still have among some people.

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Funny enough, Origin is a better platform for a gamer than Steam is though. For starters, it has a client that works, not just when it feels like it… =D

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I never had problems with steam not working here, and I use it daily for years.

I dislike the interface of origin and the shop, and three things irked me on it. First was being unavailable to add games to a cart, I had to buy each game separately, in 2016. Then theres the no cap for downloads (but to be fair, steam also took a long time to implement that) and finally the live chat with a representant never worked for me, I tried to find a email but nothing. I waited for like 7 hours (not in a row) and gave up on it.

And origin dont have features like showcasing screenshots, gifting (actually now they implemented that, but theres even more restrictions than steam) and other nice things that I take for granted now.

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Well for me Origin has taken up to like 5 minutes to bootup & launch Mass Effect: Andromeda.
And by launch I mean literally launch game exe

Seriously. I don't know how, but that's just awful.

And just be clear, this wasn't initial boot or boot after update.

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Well, EA is certainly trying to get third parties for Origin.
They even offer every Kickstarter game no-fees period in hopes of getting 'em on Origin (natively and not just as a steam key from Origin)

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Well, Steam's probably first that allowed you do redownload.

Digital River is another huge, used to host EA Download until Origin.
Unlike Steam they only allow you to download for 30 days and then you've to rebuy. :D

(Now days DR is mostly just payment processor and serial giver, and above's probably why)

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I am pretty sure that stardock program (i believe it was called drengin.net? Then impulse) allowed redownloads. And they even offered multiple versions of a program, unlike steam which always update things for you even if you dont want to (say due to mod incompatibility or the patch may contain bugs).

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5 - Regulatory authorities finally tell Valve to start being more reasonable to consumers and they pick up their ball and go home.

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Two words: GOG Connect.

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If only there were more publishers who knew about this.

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I'm willing to bet that every publisher distributing on GOG are aware

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We will have to search for a new place on duckduckgo since bing and google will be shutdown as well.

Valve is a company that have more than 100 million accounts. And the biggest thing is: many people dont WANT to switch to other services, even when they offer cheaper (or even free) games. So they are unique in that aspect.

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"We will have to search for a new place on duckduckgo since bing and google will be shutdown as well."

We can dream

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100 million of accounts and good half of 'em are dead. I saw it with my eyes how ppl were playing Dota in an internet cafe. Lost game - created new account :D Valve said about '10 milions of unique players in cs:go&doto'.

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shut down*

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If it gets shoutdown? A whole lot of screaming I guess.

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I'm pretty sure a company would buy steam if so.

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Never thought that actually, Steam would share something like setup? or iso versions by only activated with your key? But I dont think how would run in massive multiplayer games.

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I shoutdown to steam all the time - nothing happens :)

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nothing

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We'll be FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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.... 2013. Bruh. Do you even update?

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Why would they change anything in the meantime?

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It's their prerogative. /shrug

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I guess you should make a ticket a day just to see if anything changed ;)

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you can be sure that that response is 'corporate bullshit' designed to make you feel more secure about giving them your money. Creating some kind of outside network to hold and provide games to you, is essentially what valve is currently doing now. There is just no way that some other phantom network will remain up and running indefinitely, when valves own ones would fall due to lack of funds to keep it running. Unless we're to believe that the publishers themselves will suddenly start handing out free non-drm copies of games to every single person on the planet who purchased copies on steam? :D logistics aside, if valve died, how would you even go about attempting to prove you bought a game?

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I will raise my jolly roger and sail into the open sea

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you lose everything. I highly doubt valve will be allowed to strip away steamworks (ie make those games essentially DRM free) so that they can tell you to download and back up your games - and it stands to reason that if steam was no longer financially viable, valve wouldnt have the funds (nor would they really care to use whatever funds they had left) to create some kind of alternate database with some other provider for you to access the games from.

basically its good to remind yourself every now and then, that you dont own software, you simply have a non-transferable licence to use it for whatever period its available.

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They couldn't shit their business pants that badly even if they tried, if they somehow miraculously managed though - you'd know and smell it from a mile. But that wouldn't be anytime soon - by then just about any game you have on steam is less worth than it is already. Looking back at it as if there the Nintendo 64 Emulator collection you just download on a whim ... I tell ya, once VR is good and there's games worth playing - steams old games will be nothing but a reminder of the past with a bunch of them re-released for the xx-time,

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You could shout it up so it isn't shoutdown anymore

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It will be the day the PC faction suffers a critical blow in the Console Wars. With its flagship burning and sinking beneath the waves, the PC gamer will look up and shout out "Save us" and Nintendo will whisper "no"
You're a reflection of society, all the passion that we can feel
How I love your sense of justice, and your trench-coated games of steel.
Even if we're facing Armageddon, it doesn't matter what they do, Atom bomb or giant squid, here's looking at you, kid,

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Ironically, I own an xbox 360 and an xbox one and love them, so either way I'm good!

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I owned an Xbox 360 for 2 consecutive weeks. Within the first week, it RROD'd on me. I had played Fable 2 for all of an hour when it happened. (Console was on a table, not enclosed). Store wouldn't let me exchanged so I sent it back to Microsoft. Replacement came about a month and a half or so later. Played Fable 2 for about 2 hours, it RROD'd then my place was broken into and the XB360 was stolen. I never replaced it.

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You've had way more problems than me with xbox... Mine's been extremely nice to me. Almost no problems that weren't somehow connected to me neglecting it at times or my internet and router being shit. Whatever floats your boat!

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I mostly didn't replace it because that was the second time I lost a console to theft and the bad luck with the console itself. Wasn't in the best part of town! I always meant to eventually get another, but never did. I have a PS3 that YLOD on me (but it was a first gen).

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First gens are always fickle creatures of their species.

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Interesting question... I searched about it and I found this.
Somehow, it is close to the truth, besides the fact that I don't agree that Valve has no obligation whatsoever. This no obligation clause goes against laws of LOTS of users countries. Only time (and/or eventually justice) will be able to tell what will happen in a situation like this. My personal opinion is that the DRM-Free for a reasonable time to backup the games is the most possible option.

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valve would not have the right to strip away protection from other companies games. It could do it for ITS games, but it would not have the right (and i seriously doubt it would be in any contract theyve signed with publishers) to do so for other party games.

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they surely don't, but they can. that's my point.

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I will cry if Steam get shoutdown.

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No more Steam Sale??

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What scares me a lot more than Steam shutting down entirely is the prospect of some hostile takeover, by something big and bad, like M$, Apple or Google (to name just a few). What if one of those bought the whole Steam platform to integrate it into their own services or to get rid of that pesky competition? While I don't really like the data mining by Valve, I fear that it would be much worse if Google and Co. owned the service.

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valve is a private company meaning there are no stocks available to buy so unless gaben decides to sell his company there is no way for a hostile takeover

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Okay, maybe hostile takeover wasn't the best wording, but it can be sold and everything has a price. I just depends on how much they pay for it.

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EA offered to buy steam once and they refused. Everything have a price yet sony or microsoft havent bought nintendo or each other.

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And if Mr Newell should die?

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They have a philosophy in the business and they tend to recruit people who share their vision, of a non-centralized place where people go from project to project at will.

I doubt gaben would be the only one opposed to sell their platform.

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