Well hello there,

I'm buying a new computer and am thinking of building it. I've come up with some specs that are in my price range (£500 - £600) and want to know if there good/bad and if there's anything blatantly wrong with them.

Also, do you think they could run some top-end games, such as Crysis or Metro 2033?

Thanks in advance

Specs:

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor

Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive

XFX Core Edition Radeon HD 7850 AMD Graphics Card 2GB

Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case

Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply

Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)

1 decade ago*

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Nothing i would buy for that money but decent.
Btw: BUYING Windows? Oo Don´t you have electronic stores near you where you can take a photo of a key on a laptop or something?

1 decade ago
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lo, thats even worse than getting a pirated version.

1 decade ago
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agreed: that's 'purdy skeezy', as it were

1 decade ago
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Processor: Intel > AMD

Graphics Card: AMD > Intel

1 decade ago
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Graphics Card: AMD > Intel wut?!

1 decade ago
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Well, depends on how you see it. :P AMD GCs are mostly made for gaming while Intel GCs are not. :)

1 decade ago
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So Intel > AMD on a low budget build? You intel fanboys/

1 decade ago
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650€ isn't low budget for me. Enough to buy an Intel i5

And why are you calling me an Intel fanboy, I did not even say AMD sucks or anything. I even said that AMD GCs are better than Intel's.

1 decade ago
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$600=447€

1 decade ago
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£600 = 700€

1 decade ago
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Thanks lol.

1 decade ago
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Look again. It's £ not $

1 decade ago
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I love [intel Graphics cards.

1 decade ago
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Look at my answer I wrote to AmmokK

1 decade ago
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Are you sure you don't mean Nvidia?

1 decade ago
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i5 ftw

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It looks good. Shouldn't have any problems running what's out right now

1 decade ago
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You are better off asking on other forums, like Tom's Hardware or Overclock.net, just as a couple of examples. You can find many others. They will tell you every change you should probably make on your budget.

I think you paid a bit too much attention to your last thread. People tend to come out in force when they get defensive, plus there are probably quite a few people here that went with simply what they could afford, quickly. Basically meaning they didn't put much thought into it. I mean this is a site where you sign up to try for free games. I doubt you are going to get many people that know what to aim for, system-wise.

Go and ask on some forums that specialize in this. If you give them how much you have to spend, which sites you want to use, and the list you made, then you will probably have a few really great suggestions on things you should swap out.

Also, I say aim high on price and come down with coupons/deals. Check around and find out what other sites are offering. That is what I did on my computer. I have a really nice one that I actually ended up saving hundreds on by couponing it up, price matching, hitting promotions, checking deals, etc... I definitely prefer to bring a price down to me, than to price it all at first glance.

1 decade ago
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Thanks. I've been asking on Tom's Hardware, found the people to be very friendly and informative, I just use this is site to quickly get some opinions and see if there is anything seriously wrong with it.

Thanks for the reply all the same :)

1 decade ago
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Also might try build a pc

Also I'd get a faster HDD

1 decade ago
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There is nothing seriously wrong with it. You could get a bit faster on your harddrive. Intel is better than AMD on processors, but you might have trouble finding a deal. Your graphics cards is more than reasonable, but make sure you get the free games with it. Not every place will offer them. You can also look at other versions of the same level of card, to make sure you aren't missing out.

Your case is nice, but you could probably get a Cooler Master mid tower for less and not have any drop off. They tend to have among the best cost/quality combo. Gigabyte makes the second best motherboards, behind Asus, but they are pretty much dead even. I can't argue against it, but I'm not saying it is the best choice.

Your memory is nice. You can maybe go cheaper here, but that is deal finding. Corsair makes great ram, but so do a few other companies. I would price this at time of sale. You will want to pay attention to the timings and cas latency on this, unless you plan to tweak it yourself. There are a lot of options and not every one is good.

I would see if Windows 8 is cheaper. There is no reason to skip over it if you get a better deal. I would go with the cheapest of the two.

There is nothing really wrong with your build. When I did mine, I researched it for two months and tweaked the researched list daily. I'm not saying obsess, but you can tweak it for best deals and as you learn along the way. Sometimes it is best to decide that you would want one of a certain group, then go for the cheapest when you go to buy. I wouldn't lock in too much at that amount you have to spend. Look for stuff dropping.

1 decade ago
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I build pcs, so I'm going to advise you a bit. Do not buy a wd green or other low speed drives. They will make the fastest computer seem like something from the early 2000s. Buy at least the blue, or black if you can. If you could squeeze in a small forty or sixty gig ssd, you will love yourself forever.

If you wanted to, you could switch to a quad, as no game even users that many cores, letting you maybe spend a bit more on a modular psu which is good for air flow.

1 decade ago
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No point of those 6 cores this AMD CPU offer. Most games barely use 2 cores. 6 cores are better for video editing, graphics editing, programs like AutoCad and SolidWorks not for gaming. I'd suggest going with i5-3570k or i5-3470 (if you don't want to overclock) and Z77 chipset motherboard (preferably - one from Asus, Gigabyte or MSI). For HDD - better get 7200RPM one. 5400RPM HDD's are old generation and most of the time they are slower than 7200RPM ones (there are some 7200RPM drives that work like 5400RPM ones but most will be faster). Everything else will be fine.

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Most of the time slower? Always.

1 decade ago
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There are feq HDD's that are fucked up while being made so they actually are slower in real life. But those are just few HDD's which I won't mention there.

1 decade ago
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All 5400 rpm hdds are slower than 7200 rpm hdds. Physics.

1 decade ago
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Not necessarily. The size of the HDD has a big impact (bigger HDD = more data in the same surface), and generally a 2TB 5400 rpm HDD is faster than a 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD. A 5400 rpm will have worse latency, though.

1 decade ago
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Yes, higher density can mean more suited if it is a higher density platter, but 5400 often get cheaped out on.

1 decade ago
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All mopeds are slower than Ferraris. Except when the Ferraris are stuck in traffic and the mopeds can weave in and out of traffic. ;)

Seriously though, while I'm being a little contrary, it does depend on the use-case. Yes, all things being equal, 7200rpm will be faster when it comes to random access but a well engineered 5400rpm drive can be quicker when it comes to pure transfer speed. Comparing just spindle speed doesn't give the whole picture, you have to consider number of platters, platter size, cache size etc. But yes, you're right, go with the higher speed drive for your gaming build. :)

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Trust when I say that 5400 is always slower in normal use case scenarios. Now if you some how managed to buy a hdd with eight platters or something dumb, that's a difference, but that is unlikely. three is the most I have seen recently and that well outperform a single 5400 drive sequentially and randomly, which ate the important speeds. Cache has grown large enough to be ignored.

ultimately, unless it is just for storage, get a 7200 every time. but honestly get even just a small ssd for the os.

1 decade ago
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yea that was true a few years ago, but now that history has evolved into creating 6+ cores, more and more things every year will require them. its better to have it just because.... better safe then sorry

1 decade ago
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Consoles will still hold evolution back.

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That isn't actually fully true. AMD has more cores, yes, but... each core is fairly weak. This is why you can't game as well on AMD as you can on Intel. The best AMD chips can't even fully push the best AMD video cards. Obviously the lower down the game requirements are or the lower down your graphics card is, the less it matters.

So does a 4 core chip outpeform a 6 core chip? It actually comes down to the individual chip, not just how many cores you have. This includes AMD chip vs AMD chip.

In this case, you would be more sorry than safe. Many 4 core intel chips can outperform 6 core AMD chips. Now am I saying don't buy a 6 core Intel chip? No. The amount of cores and the clock speeds on AMD chips make them look way better than they actually are. They can do many things and calculate fast, yes, but they don't handle being pushed well. You can fold, edit videos/pictures, and do engineering well, yes. You just hit a limit a lot quicker with them than their specs tend to suggest. Intel cores are way more capable.

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AMD's cores are more powerful only on paper. In real life Intel's 4 core CPU's are outperforming AMD's 6 and 8 core ones. Each AMD core is weak. While Intel has less cores - they have better performance and they work much better in games. I'm not Intel fanboy (I had AMD CPU for about 7 or 8 years) but the fact is - AMD is weaker then Intel in CPU's. In graphics cards - maybe not, they have good performance and price but in CPU's they can't stand next to Intel in performance and electricity usage. Intel use slightly less electricity too.

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The size of your monitor would make a big difference. God dammit, why do people wanting AMD middling-ware, leave the resolution out?
Are you going for a constant 60fps or maximum settings?

1 decade ago
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Good luck running Crysis on an FX CPU. It may just be the 4xxx series, but people get problems where they cannot launch the Steam version of Crysis and Crysis Warhead, an I saw it is to do with using an FX CPU. But like I said, hopefully it is just the FX 4xxx series.

1 decade ago
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Everything looks good (and very, very similar to the computer I just built). I'm not going to get myself into the AMD vs Intel for gaming debate, since although I considered and nearly went AMD for this build, I ended up going with an i5 instead. I will say that the CPU you picked out looks optimized for video editing and other CPU-intensive activites, not gaming, though.

You might consider upgrading to a Caviar Blue HDD, which will give you better speeds. Also, I can't recommend the Cooler Master HAF 912 case enough.

Edit: Also, check out www.reddit.com/r/builapc, they'll help you out. TomsHardware Forums are good too, although sometimes not the best.

Double Edit: Look into Microsoft Dreamspark if you have a college .edu email address, you can get Windows Server 2008 or Windows Server 2008 R2 for free. These are the server versions of Vista and Win7, and you can make both look and act like their desktop OS counterparts. It's not a great idea if you're not good with computers, but if you are, it's an easy hundred bucks saved - plus, if you're like me and still prefer Vista's interface to Win7, you can get much, much better performance with Server 2008 than you could with vista.

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Closed 1 decade ago by Mullac.