Sleep deprived here, reading the site, lots of words but not understanding exactly what this is all about. Will have to read again when I'm awake.
First web browser I used was lynx, also for browsing gopher and ftp and nntp. Back in the days before GUI. I was running DOS back then, multitasking with DESQview... Dial up to an shell account on a Unix machine with internet connectivity and lynx was my primary tool for exploring what was available out there... I think university of Minnesota had a great directory of gopher sites back then. Also remember some early e-commerce stores which were accessed by telnet. Basically a BBS on the internet.
At some point, a friend told me about a way to get online using windows 3.1 and some awkward SLIP connection script in Trumpet Winsock or whatever it was called. With Windows I could be on the internet and running more than one program at the same time! News, mail and web at the same time. And there was this new web browser that had colors and could load pictures. It seemed kind of extra, unnecessary. Who needs pictures on a web page? It just makes everything slower. Web pages in lynx were pretty much instant. Then came Netscape and the browser kept evolving with fonts and wallpapers and blinking text and so on. Web kept getting slower and slower, but more interesting, more personality. :)
The pre-commercial WWW was a magical place to me...
Netscape back in those days had a WYSIWYG editor built in. I even got paid for making a site using it once when I was younger. They dropped that editor when Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox came around, though.
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They dropped that editor when Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox came around
i've tried Lynx only when Firefox showed up, just for fun.
not that am more lucid than you, but when i've read first words, and "saw it" thought exactly about that:
Netscape back in those days had a WYSIWYG editor built in
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The pre-commercial WWW was a magical place to me...
Hell yeah. It was a truly communal space.
Netscape back in those days had a WYSIWYG editor built in. I even got paid for making a site using it once when I was younger.
Same here. It was a pretty cool editor too at the time.
I thought the web would empower people to create content and now it's been taken over by single-use apps and corporations, it seems user generated content is disappearing. Only goes to show I wasn't a fortune teller...
We sound old, don't we?
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Well, I for one am old, I don't know about you... :P
User generated content is everything these days - all social media is 100% dependent on content provided by users for free, not to mention things like YouTube, sound cloud, yelp, Amazon reviews, Google maps reviews, and so on. All corporate controlled, monetized and proprietary.
There are brilliant examples of open user created content such as Wikipedia and Project Gutenberg, creative commons everything, and of course the whole free and open source movement. But yeah those old "homepages" of the '90s are pretty much a thing of the past.
So the idealist in me agrees with Sir TBL's vision on this latest project, but the cynic in me thinks it is too little, too late.
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First observation.. it doesn't work with older versions of Firefox i.e. 41 but it's fine with 51, hmm..
Need more study.. Concept unclear..
PS. FTPmail (Archie) for president..
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So after a poor night of sleep and reading the specs... It seems like a URL-based authentication scheme, like the push to use OpenID 15+ years ago (rather than "login with Facebook" you'll login with a URL of your own identity in your own server, or on someone else's server, if you've created an identity and a certificate pair). And then a sort of decentralized "social data" layer tied to that, less structured than something like Diaspora I guess. Where your "friends list" and personal data, photos, status updates, shared documents, whatever, are not part of any particular website or platform, but available to any website or application that has authenticated with your solid account. So pretending current social networks implemented solid, Facebook or Google+ or Instagram would not hold your personal data on their servers, they'd just be a presentation layer for the data that already was created by you in your solid pod. So your friends or followers could view the content you've created using whatever software platform they prefer.
At least that's how I'm reading it which sounds like the barrier for entry is way too technical for most people (is grandma going to understand public key cryptography, expiring certificates, web servers?) plus requires buy-in from other apps or web platforms to somehow stop hoarding user data, which for most of them is the whole reason why they exist.
So I'll say "good luck with that, sir tim" :P
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Looks to me like a whole warehouse of cans of worms waiting to be opened.
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about Solid:
"The first web browser was also an editor. The idea being that not only could everyone read content on the web, but they could also help create it. It was to be a collaborative space for all mankind.
However, when the first browser that popularized the web came along, called Mosaic, it included multimedia and editing was taken out. .... spawned an effort lead by Tim and others to get the write functionality back. ...
Solid has taken 15 years of development work to finally deliver this."
https://solid.inrupt.com/
this looks huge. after 10 seconds already got a frog, there! (frog is by bits, pic below is Sir timbl )
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