Game of thrones. **Warning, might contain spoilers for this last episode

No, i meant, what do you think about the fight itself

As an example, the red wedding, well, it took us all by surprise, whether in the books or the show, it was totally unexpected.

This fight though, i doubt it surprised anyone (maybe just on how bad the result was). He was asking for it when he didnt finished the job, i mean, its even cliche in most horror movies, not surprising at all. I think it was lame. Specially the credits part.

You are not fooling anyone Mr. Martin.

Yup, Martin stole ancient hellenic and roman texts, some stuff from middle ages like siege of Constantinople and greek fire, War of the Roses (when, oh look at the coincidence, writers started using detailed and brutal descriptions of war, pillages, rapes and all that for the first time, just like Martin is being the first naturalist among the bunch of romanticistic fantasy writers)... Oh, and Dany, her travels, gathering huge army from various sources in the middle of enemy territory? People should read Anabasis from Xenophon.

OK, everyone has sources, but he's a bad writer. If he was writing like that anywhere outside of US, no one would ever hear of him.

All that said, I like to watch the show. I guess I'm getting old.

Exactly how i felt.

Salve, o amici.

That was the whole point of the fight - force him to confess Lannisters did it. Oberyn wanted to go for the leadership, not just dumb executor of their orders, and he needed a public cause.

Oh come on, they had to make that scene, i mean She is a hottie.

But this is different, many characters are lust demons, like tyrion in earlier seasons, oberyn martell, Theon, Bron, etc. They just want sex.

Grey worm did not intended to rape missandei, he loves her, you can see that in the show, he even learn the word "precious" because she is important to him (and looks like the opossite as well, they might have a sex scene, he apologized. Its quite the same relationship that jorah the andal has with Daenerys, he loves her, and of course he gets horny if he see her naked, but i bet you that he would not rape/harm her love.

Talking about misogyny. There are more misogyny today than the one reflected in the show*, you can see that by the amount of memes. The fact that most people dont say it out loud, does not necessarily mean that it doesnt exist at all.

Better stop when you get to this fight, you REALLY don't want to spoil the scene and read what happens to 'you know who' before you can see it on screen :<

I thought the same thing that it would be a draw. I mean would they really kill off tyrion? Then I realized they probably would.

On the other hand it could still be a draw and possibly a rematch? Maybe Jaime offering to fight for tyrion while the throne hires bronn? Maybe jorah comes into play here too. I haven't read the books and I'm just spit balling some of my guesses.

Well, actually that is the whole point of this post, i found it like a lazy way to complete "player 1" participation.

Yes, I can't wait for Season 5, there are 2 scenes there I really want to see :(

For what i know, i hope they dont change anything.

Actually i do. Was browsing trough a backstory and somehow i ended up reading what was going to happen (they didnt mentioned this fight though), i just couldnt stop reading.

I think that the next episode is what happens next with tyrion, and closing the season with stannis. i think its a nice ending.

Really?

When some one dont kill the enemy, and he is lying down, there is like 80% chance that they will retaliate with good chances of success due to the other one standing is distracted.

When oberyn removed the lance from the mountain and he said him that he could not die yet, i was afraid this would happen, i certainly hoped it didnt, but at the end, well, you saw it.

Also not a fan with the music less titles, they tried to revive the shock of the red wedding (that did surprised me), but it didnt worked, at least for me.

My heart was pounding for at least 15mins after I finished watching the last episode.

hahahaha. yeah, i thought he was only losing the eyes, never expected it that way.

But.... i dont really get disturbed with this kind of visual, im used to it by watching too much gore, that is probably why it was so lame for me. I knew the moment he removed the lance from the mountain that he was going to retaliate and kill oberyn, i just didnt knew how.

At the end, i was not shocked not by the visuals, not by his death.

nice troll:D

If you think bad guys 'win', well... As someone above said, you know nothing :<

As far as i can tell, the show genre is Drama. If you dont want to get depressed, watch a comedy show.

Its not getting any better after the first book. In fact, you are just getting started.

BTW. Who are the bad guys? Can you really tell from reading just 1 book?

You should definitely avoid Shingeki no kyojin (Attack on titan) then.

During the fight Oberyn cut his hamstring and stabbed him in the chest. The last shot showed the mountain rolling off Oberyn onto his back. The episode ended pretty much there so at this point in the show you cant really tell.

From what i saw, he either was stabbed in the chest or in the belly, and looking how deep the cut was, probably destroyed the spine if it was on the belly, or the lungs.

Few seconds later, he totally went hulk smash little men's head.

So yeah, at the end, he is badly wounded, but i bet he will get up like if it was nothing. However, knowing oberyin as the red viper, probably those blades were poisoned. Dont know this for sure, but that was my train of thought before the fight, oberyn will scratch the mountain, then the mountain will grab him and destroy him, then die poisoned.

He must have loved playing that scene.

About that scene...

Did he ever figured out why Orson smashed all those beetles? Any further explanation abb this in the books?
Or that was something about his (Tyrion) own nature of being obsessed by knowledge and all, and an analogy about the world (Orson) smashing weak things (beetles/Tyrion) nature...?

This is really hard to say for me since im not that far into the books. But i guess starting book 4.

But short story. first half of the 3rd book is 3rd season.

Second half of 3rd book, + elements from the 4th and 5th book are in this 4th season.

My personal guess is that the third book was over 1-2 episodes ago, and we started the book "a feast of crows" while the daenarys part is from the 5th book "dance with dragons "

100-200 pages after the middle of the third book. They're mixing story with 4th and even 5th and still didn't show what's going on the Wall (the same time). That's a bit weird I think.

EDIT: The whole Theon plot during the third season is from the Dance with Dragons (5th book)...