Now that we are into 2017, it's time for me to get off my ass and get started on some of my resolutions. One of these was to learn to play a musical instrument. Since no one in my family / close friends is musically talented, I'm asking SG for help. And here's a GA :-)

Betrayal at Krondor GA - LVL 1+

Keep in mind that I have 0 musical background other than faking my way through a high school chorus class a long long time ago and having once dated a girl that played piano... so looking for something somewhat easy to start out with that won't take ages to learn. If I manage to stick with it, I can always graduate up. Anyway, I am thinking more toward classical/folk music but also some classic rock such as the eagles and maybe some progressive rock. More inclined to learn a string instrument but I might consider a something else if it gets recommended enough. Anything that won't destroy my fingers is also a plus (leaning toward nylon strings for this reason).

Especially interested in hearing from folks who managed to figure things out on their own or taught someone in a similar boat. But if you grew around music and/or have tips still feel free to share.

UPDATE 1/10:
Looks like Guitar wins by a landslide. Which is awesome because I was pretty much really between Guitar and Uke in my head when I started this thread. Based on all the feedback I'm wondering if 'acoustic' is really the right one to start with (going to look into what I'm told is called 'classic guitar' as well) but now that I've narrowed to guitar it should be a lot easier to research. Thanks for all the feedback!

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what should i learn to play first?

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Ukulele
Acoustic Guitar
Mandolin
Dulcimer
Harmonica
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Other (leave a comment)
Don't really an opinion / don't care but good luck!

Bump. Voted Guitar.

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that might be fun to annoy amuse co-workers with lol

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sounds cool. don't think it'd be very noob friendly though lol. anyway, should probably have mentioned i need something portable too :-)

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thanks. ::bookmarked:: :-)

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The keytar.

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I would definitely say the guitar or ukulele, they're both versatile, portable, and most importantly highly self-sufficient. It's easy to learn the basics for either of them and there's a hell of a lot of stuff you can do with them once you start learning more advanced things. They're also pretty interchangeable, once you know one you can very quickly adapt to the other (and also to other instruments like mandolins, electric guitars or bass). I would say it's easier to go from guitar to ukulele than vice versa though. Another huge advantage of the guitar is that there's an enormous amount of learning resources online to help teach you. I haven't personally ever looked into what there is for mandolins but I would expect it to be much harder to find lessons online.

If you don't want to ruin your fingers I'd stay away from the electric guitar though.

As for tips, I would say don't dismiss music theory. A lot of people I know taught themselves a few chords on guitar so that they can play a couple of songs, but shied away from learning any of the theory behind music. Learning the theory will give you a much better knowledge of how to play, and will allow you to create your own music much more easily than if you only knew some songs.

Edit: If you have any questions I'm more than happy to try to answer them but (disclaimer) my knowledge of music is very limited

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Thanks for the feedback.

I would say it's easier to go from guitar to Ukulele than vice versa though

yeah, had been wondering about that considering the 4 strings vs 6. I'd like to learn both eventually but... baby steps. Makes me think of the King Killer Chronicles series of novels where the main character breaks some of his strings and has to learn to play with less until he can afford to restring.

Will definitely try to look into the theory side of things as well.

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The Sloth King's favourite book is The Name of the wind. Now if only The Sloth King could find a way to get his paws on an early copy of Doors of Stone...

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For a split second there I wasn't sure if you were referring to your user name or maybe making a nickname for Rothfuss based on his writing speed ;-P

(if you happen to be reading... just kidding Pat; keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to DoS as well)

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And girls like a guy who can play the guitar. At the end of the day, this reason wins all.

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Voted guitar, I suggest learning a song you personally enjoy. Learn a couple chords and you can play something nice.

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I'd say the ukelele is easier than the guitar... only four strings and a more open tuning. It's not hard to change to the guitar later.

The harmonica is quite easy to pick up and learn. It took me about a week to be able to play tunes on one (but it takes a lot longer to get the tone right). If you wanted something more melodic, you could also consider a tin whistle.

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Piano/keyboard

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I'd say get a keyboard/ piano you can get stickers that label what the keys are and you can get sheet music that has the keynotes on it. That's how I learned to play when I was 4-5. If you want some really portable go for guitar. Now if you want plenty of free lessons for that you can always go to https://www.justinguitar.com/ and I'm to lazy to link it properly.

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+1 for JustinGuitar! One of the few really good teachers out there!

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I voted guitar, but do note that an electric guitar is going to be easier on your fingers than an acoustic. It's not the material that the strings are made of, it's the amount of pressure required to apply, and acoustics generally are more difficult to play in my experience - require more strength in your hands. As to easy on your fingers - If you play regularly for a few weeks though you'll build up callouses and won't even notice after that. It's just the price you pay.

As to learning - if you like the eagles and folk music I'd suggest starting in the vein. Learn chords and strum along sing. You can do alot just learning 4-5 chords. Start with G, C, D and Em and you can play so much.

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Appreciate that, I actually hadn't realized about the material vs. pressure at all :-)

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fwiw, cheap acoustic guitars are going to be harder to play than expensive ones. Again, that's my experience. I finally upped for a more expensive acoustic and it's so much better to play. But for a beginner w/ a cheaper acoustic, it's probably just going to be a little harder to play. I had a classical guitar also, strings are spaced wider for finger picking, sot note that technique is going to be quite a bit more difficult to learn than strumming folk songs. I think you'll get alot more early "inspiration" and "fun" by learning some chords and strumming to some rock songs or folk songs. Sometimes those early payoffs are important to keep you motivated. (all imho).

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Take It Easy by the Eagles is mostly 5 chords G, C, D and Em and Am.
might be a good starter project. There's lots of songs that just use a handful of chords like that
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/e/eagles/take_it_easy_crd.htm

Van Morrison's Brown Eyed Girl is another one used about 4-5 chords
http://www.e-chords.com/chords/van-morrison/brown-eyed-girl

good luck

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I voted for guitar, because this is the instrument I'd want to learn. But correct answer is "the one YOU like more". Why listen to someone else opinion? And, if you really like some instrument - it would be easier to learn it, because it you will enjoy the process of learning.

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True but lot of the tips/feedbacks sound like they will be very helpful too. To be honest that is what I'm really looking for :-)

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You can search for internet teacher for beggining : i recommand justin guitar on youtube.
If you want to play in a band and you like rythm you should take a look on bass.
If you want to progress there is no better way than a real teacher.
Thank you for the ga ;)
I recommand a folk guitar middle price being adjusted by a luthier (name in french sorry dont know the translation)
The adjustement is very usefull trust me as it will improve your confort in the play.

So rock now !!!

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Guitar,

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If you are interested in understanding music, the easiest (in my opinion) is the piano — it has a very logical and clear layout of notes, everything just goes from low to high, sequentially. So I'd recommend that as the easiest way to start learning music from. Then, once you know at least a little bit about notes / octaves / keys / chord progressions (circle of fifths, tonic/subdominant/dominant chords), it will be simpler to learn anything else. In my case, I learnt guitar first, but most of it was just dumb memorizing. When I started learning the piano I finally understood many things, and it is more fun to play either now that I don't only know the "how", but also the "why".

But, of course, the piano as an instrument is neither cheap nor portable, so that's a big downside.

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Portability depends on what you want and how serious you are... You can always get a 4-octave midi controller hooked up to a PC/laptop. Regarding the site he/she will probably have a PC... so for cost it's just a smal controller. You can always upgrade to a full keyboard.

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That's true, though a full proper(ish) instrument will cost from a several hundred dollars and up. Depends on the OPs goals and budget, it is possible to get a simple keyboard, but I'd kinda recommend to go for one with weighted keys (not sure if that's a correct term in English, it means keys resist more, and the sound is closer to actual piano, and responds to speed/strength of fingerstrokes), and at least a sustain pedal (the other ones will be needed after a couple of years studying, if at all). I don't know if MIDI keyboards offer such features.

But to get into music and understand note/key layouts a MIDI keyboard may be enough :)

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There are only two instruments that I would consider for myself: Guitar or the piano.

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Guitar is a very common instrument, so it might be good to learn it just for that, but it's not a favorite of mine.

Flute will be hard if you're not familiar with embouchure. You have to get your lips puckered -juuust- right.

I'd suggest an ocarina personally. It's simple to use and easy to get the hang of midrange notes.

If you really want to go strings I'd suggest ukulele.

Also learn how to use a metronome. There's tons online.

I was in concert band for ten years and marching band for four when I was in school. Played clarinet myself.

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Thanks for the feedback. And +1 for reminding me of Zelda OoT lol

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The pan flute, of course. Its majestic and hauntingly beautiful tones will sooth your soul.
or the guitar

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sounds pretty cool. don't know if i'll start with it but i bookmarked a few youtube vids & a howto play page for later.

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You never know, you could become the next Yanni. :3

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"looking for something somewhat easy to start out with that won't take ages to learn."

There isn't such thing as an easy instrument. Sure some have their own difficulties for different reasons, but if you are interested to progress in it and not just learning to play a couple of basic songs, every instrument requires a lot of studying, patience and dedication. How fast you progress depends only on your effort and not on the instrument itself.

My suggestion is to watch basic instructional videos for some of the instruments that you have on your mind and see how you feel for each one of them.

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yeah put that mostly bc the aforementioned ex girlfriend had been playing piano for like 7-9 years IIRC... I'm not aiming for mastery and not expecting to have a song down in my first week or anything. I just don't want the time it takes for basic competence to be longer than it has to because I chose something harder than average to learn on.

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Try using to play sampler/sequencer. Lots of opportunities ;)

How serious are you taking it? I mean, go to classes and such? Or just get a book and practice at home? Because with the last option, a guitar and Rocksmith may be a nice introduction to see if you like it. You'd still need a teacher to learn everything proper down the line, but just to see if you like it at all it may be a good start :)

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Haven't really decided yet. Wouldn't be against classes eventually but my work schedule is kinda fubar at the moment. Probably just online stuff initially and then when the work schedule straightens out I can think on courses more.

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You'd still need a teacher to learn everything proper down the line, but just to see if you like it at all it may be a good start :)

You don't necessarily need a teacher to learn how to play guitar. At some point you will have to take some lessons to take it to the next level, but if you just want to play along some songs for fun, it's not needed (of course it helps, doing everything on your own is very hard).

So far I've been playing 3 years (tomorrow exactly) and have not had one lesson. I had a friend that is amazing with the guitar over at some point though, so he gave lots of great tips.

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I liked playing the trumpet personally :c but it does take a while to learn and consistent practice to strengthen facial muscles and lungs to be able to play it well and for longer ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Taking an extended break from most instruments allows for you to pick it up without much trouble, with a trumpet you need to rebuild up the face muscles and lungs all over again

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Cello is a wonderful instrument. I love the sound.

Of course, the easiest instrument to find lessons for is the guitar, which is definitely worth learning.

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I agree, the cello is a beautiful instrument. I wish I had studied it in high school.

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harmonica is the easiest one, so it's a more realistic choice.
Or learn the guitar , so you'll be able to play ukulele and mandolin

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I tried learning electric guitar but the music theory completely turned me off of it. I find it waaay too boring for me to actually learn anything. I will give you the advice of trying to learn some music theory without having the instrument, because if you're like me, you'll spend a lot of money on the instrument to later leave it in some dark place in your house (selling instruments is harder than it sounds).

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You could go with either an electric guitar or a bass guitar. I personally started with bass guitar myself. :)
Like Manipulator said, there's a game called Rocksmith 2014 that can help you learn guitar/bass (it uses real guitar/bass as controller) if you got no one to teach you. It has lots of classic rock songs.

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