So, I just looked and saw I'm up to 2.01 "estimated wins" with 0 actual wins and it got me thinking, how bad is it for some people before your first win. I'm considering a giveaway to the person with the highest estimated but still not won anything.

Now I'm up to 2:0 I'm curious to see how high I can get before I win.

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I believe I saw someone with 30:0

1 decade ago
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No way

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Sounds like a challenge :D

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Unless most of his entries were group giveaways, that would've taken him a hell of a long while.

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Even with that its still a really low probability.

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True, but difficult to accomplish with 0 wins.

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No more difficult than public.

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Ouch!

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Only after Virgins steam gift members, those that haven't won anything yet.

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Don't know about any private groups, but keep an eye out for the sneaky forum giveaway people. Your odds are better (obviously) if you're entering things that only 20 people found/solved/etc. Often you will see a completely inane forum topic, then see in their profile a private giveaway running. That's when you know it's time to start investigating... :)

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I should note that I'm certainly not complaining, I joined to get rid of a bunch of game keys that I had laying around unused which has been great.
Have joined private groups and been in some giveaways where there was only 5 people entered (hence the estimated wins is such, without large entries).
I'm just curious as to who is the worst off in initial luck that I might be able to get a spare key or two to :)

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In the end, it's still free raffle tickets for games! So for that, thank you givers!

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I think I was 0 for 4 and then started joining group giveaways.

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I'm guessing by the lack of comments on this post from people with 0 wins that these same people are obviously not active on the forums... Interesting...

1 decade ago
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or they just gave up :O

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I'm active, but I'm busy trying to get my EW up without winning anything. It's not as easy as you might think....

1 decade ago
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contribute more=higher chance of winning games

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false

1 decade ago
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really?
contribute more = more contr. giveaways to enter = more chances to win

1 decade ago
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lol nope

1 decade ago
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lol, check my history :p

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Nope, check my profile:) And 4 of the wins were in a really small group.

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This is right.
The more you give, the more giveaways you can enter that others wouldn't be able to (excluding groups and private). Also, higher CV giveaways tend to have less people in them as there are less people with CV than without.

Just because some people have been unlucky they assume higher CV doesn't equal higher chances but it does, they've just been unlucky.

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Actually higher CV just let your Estimated Wins to grow faster since you can enter giveaways with less people. Unfortunately Estimated Wins can be much different from Gift Won.

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Of course, they are ESTIMATED. It is your chance of winning. your estimated wins will go up much faster with a higher CV because your chance of winning is higher.
I...I don't know how else to explain this...

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That's right.
It's also true that, statistically, estimated and actual win will become closer and closer as the number increases

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I was at 1.80 to 2.10 before I got my first gift.

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I was well on my way to a 5-win:estimate-gap (20:25) until I accidentally won yesterday. Seeing as how I started at 20:19 (I had won one more game than I statistically should have), I'm not too bothered. These things even out over time.

What you SHOULDN'T do is start a QQ topic about how you aren't winning. ...sigh. I think I have to actually update the list now.

(edit: link removed)

1 decade ago
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QQ topic? also note, I'm not complaining at all, just curious and considering noone has had higher than myself at 0 wins I haven't given away anything which I was planning on.

1 decade ago
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Dude, sharing that list will get you banned.

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Having recently communicated with Support re: blacklists, I believe you are correct. Blacklists are only allowed if they don't 'call out' the person with what they did.

Calling out is taken very seriously on this site, and after further discussion, I have come to believe that this is the correct decision.

I have removed the link.

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I dont remember

1 decade ago
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I'm at 1.17 : 0 !

1 decade ago
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I am 4 behind - 5:9.4

It's been so long since I won something...

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i'm at 0.01 XD

1 decade ago
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45.18 wins predicted and only 45 actual wins!
Why does life hate me? D:

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It really is such a hard life isn't it!

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I was a little over 2.0 before I got my first win. I've had a little luck lately, so my estimate finally caught up with my actual.

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Estimate: 2.60 Reality: 5

1 decade ago
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Hey! What happened to tomb raider?

1 decade ago
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Stalker

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It's a valid question... What did happen to it?

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I still find it amusing that some people still comment on the forum without realizing people are going to search every inch of their profile.

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Good catch. Game won, not added to library.

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And the punishment for it is only a suspension, sad =/

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i think, when i enter more giveaway, my estimated win has been raised.

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Really? Must be a glitch.

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i dont know either, but it's raised since the day i join.
now my estimated win 0.35 it different between yesterday i just have 0.20.
but with 0.35 i have win 2 giveaway :D

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OMG, fix this ASAP ^^

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I'm on 3 wins, estimated 6.12. All three are games that are on my backlog now, far above the 'got it bundled with my wanted game' list.

Really wanting a copy of Night at the Inventory 1 or 2. I was once quite the card shark on Puzzle Pirates.

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Estimated Wins4.80

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Good to see you understood the point of the thread.

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however, 3 wins AND suspended... hmmmm :P

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One of the things I would never do is complain because: First, it is against the rules, and second, this is all part of the game of randomness, and there's where the fun is. Some can be luckier than others or maybe not, because all this is based on randomness. If some can't tolerate not be winning, then they should stop entering giveaways and start buying the games themselves... (:P)

But, if it is true that you're just curious about those numbers, then check my profile... ^_^

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Indeed I am curious and I have looked and will add you to my list for a new giveaway when I get the time (Most likely Thursday)

You might want to update your wishlist as this is where I'll be picking a giveaway from.

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Man at least you're not a leecher, I hope you win something big and soon. I'm tired to see people that never gave anything here complaining about their wins.

Today I just see a guy that won 8 gifts (Snapshot twice) and never gave a game (actually I think he gave a free beta key), trading portal on steamtrades.

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I'm not at all fussed about winning at all, I have a large enough catalog of games as it is really, more just thought why not. I'm actually interested in getting my estimated up as high as possible without winning anything. I WANT to lose more!

1 decade ago
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I have estimated 20 while I have won only 11 <.< damn youuu! DAMN YOUU!

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I won 2 gift in the first 2 weeks, having an estimate lower than 1, and now I've an estimate of 6 and still 2 won.
Magic word is Randomness...

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Oh damn, luck sure likes me :)

Sadly I must have had too much lately, so I injured my ankle a week ago :/

1 decade ago
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My win/lose ratio is 1.65

I've never won a thing...

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win/lose ratio is not estimated wins. Your win/lose ratio is 0. Estimated wins is calculated by addition of the winning chance of every single giveaway you entered

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Closed 1 decade ago by Honka.