Do you agree with this "cooldown" trade time?
This will literally kill whole CS:GO trading as well as all the sites that are based on the skins and also OPSkins CS:GO marketplace itself... This is just insane, I'm seriously considering to do bad things...If that doesn't change, I lose over $4000 real money...
Yes I know I'm super retarded by not selling the skins before...
Just kill me...
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But why? Can't you just wait those 7 days? It's not like your stuff became untradeable.
I have absolutely no experience or knowledge about the CS:GO skin scene (I don't even get what this is all about and how on earth people are seriously paying (and as it seems quite a lot) real money to change the color//design of their weapon in a shooter. It's beyond me, really), so I'd appreciate it if you could explain your issue to a n00b, thanks a lot :)
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I will try to explain, csgo skins is trade currency(like dollars, euro, etc..) as their price is stable. Now people don't want to trade those keys, as they won't be available for future trades for 7 days. For example, you sell your Deus ex: md copy from humble bundle to x person, because you found that the y person has Stardew Valley and wants exactly same amount of csgo case keys which u will get for your Deus ex:md, so you sold your Deus and got keys, BUT they are untradeable for 1 week and y person who has your Stardew Valley, said that he don't want to wait and just sold Stardew Valley to someone else. In trading noone wants to wait, everyone wants to get profit as fast as possible and as much as possible.
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and y person who has your desired game, said that he don't want to wait and just sold your desired game to someone else.
Why should that person wait to trade the game on again. As soon as you get the keys that you were trading it for you lose any claim to it.
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This person has to wait, because YOURS keys are not tradeable yet. Maybe you misunderstood sth, I changed text a little bit, so now it will be more clear :)
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No, I understood. You asked for x keys and you got x keys. What happens after that is non of the buyers concern - as long as they don't chargeback the purchase of those keys or something similar. Yes, having to hold those keys for a week sucks but that's your problem not the buyers.
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I'm a regular player I don't gamble. I still don't really like the cooldown thing. Should be shorter. I already always have a 15 day cooldown since my phone is busted :(
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You could use WinAuth or SteamDesktopAuthenticator or another desktop based one.
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Hey, normal players plays also on pvpro, where are you getting skins for playing matches.
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now people with $5000 in items will be poor T_T
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Hmm... I wonder if I should liquidate my trash... Not that I have any use for wallet...
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First valve removed gifting and now this... Looks like they are doing everything step by step to prevent people from buying games from traders/outside steam.
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Yep. They started doing this a looooong time ago and I think it was pretty obvious all along. ;)
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Yup, hope the skins prices starts being reasonable with that change (atleast for low-mid tier knifes)
I mean no point on buying tons of low end knifes so u can manipulate prices with that 7 days cooldown.
And to be fair I gave up on them when they introduced the gloves.
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Does that apply to case keys too? I use them a lot to trade for games on ST.
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I would imagine so but traders might be ok with sitting on keys for a week, most keep them in their inventory for awhile any way before sellin/tradin on.
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- most traders have tons of keys.. so if they receive like.. 20 - they still have a 100 left that are liquid
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They could still sell them like they do now, it's just that the buyer will have to wait 7 days to use them. I buy off the market or through CSGO which evers cheapest and have to wait 7 days to be able to trade for games etc so it's not gonna be too bad I don't think. We could always go back to TF2 keys until they do the same with them lol
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I was always saying that Valve is trying to kill trading, but nobody believed me and they thought it's just "for our safety". :P Do you believe me now? Wait till they find a way to restrict steam keys even more. ;)
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I do love their 15-days "protection" they forced on me.
I love it so much I since stopped giving Valve ANY money what-so-ever. That was like, 2 years ago?
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It seems that Valve want to force users to buy/sell skins only through Steam Community Market.
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Change that for Dota 2 and I still would not complaint. And yes, I have bunch of valuable items in my Dota 2 inventory.
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I WAS planning to maybe start trading games in a few CS GO keys since the paypal fees thing but this is somewhat just as ... inconvenient.
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I think it hits mostly only the traders and dif. "gambling and skin" sites. So nobody that are really missed :D (raise it up to 30 days...)
So good move for the casual players.
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I have no use for CS:GO Items, other than using them now and then as a trading currency to get bundled games I missed, but these are terrible news indeed and will make the process a whole a lot more complicated, the 7 days cool-down limit when buying from the market was extremely inconvenient already.
There might come a day when Valve will scrap keys altogether, killing this community, trading sites and all competing stores with one swipe.
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Good move, i believe they should do the same with tf2/dota and pubg items.
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And why should they? There are people who are buying bundled games from group buys that will have a week in order to get anything. The fact that this move doesnt hurt you doesnt mean that its okay.
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what is the problem in 1 week waiting?
real price of all those cs go keys and skins - $0,0 - they are just pixels, nothing more
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As long as you split more than 2-3 games a week and you will find out its not just a week in the end.
They are pixels and they are worth nothing to you but not for anybody. With that why games have a real price and arent free as they are just pixels? By the way do you think that valve did this as they are just pixel and worth nothing? If that was the case why not stop the whole market thing.
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valve did it cause there're too many "generous traders" with 100-200$ profitz daily - just check steam discussions, they are sad, cause now they need to find work
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real price of all those cs go keys and skins - $0,0 - they are just pixels, nothing more
Why don't u say same about Cryptocurrency or cash(Paypal, Skrill, Qiwi)? They are also pixels on the screen :/
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Hm, can someone explain to me what the problem is, please? Just wait 7 days, no?
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no problem for steam,
there are a lot of problems for grey market like opskins and factically it is death for them, because trade bot has to keep an item 1 week, and nobody can't buy it
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Still don't get it. People will be able to buy it a bit later (a week), what's the deal?
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Not really a waste of time and money, bots are automated, so it's not really "time" that goes to waste here, and you're just introducing a potential delay, not an increased cost.
It does introduce another complication though, and that's that you're basing your trade on the current value, with the hope that price won't change too much by the time you can trade the skin away in the future. I would imagine that this will make trading recently released skins quite risky, as their price tend to be rather unstable early on, fluctuating quite a bit, but with a generally downwards trend. So either skin-trading bots will need to offer less for new skins, or they'll risk losing money that way.
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Decided to sell 90% of my ramaining skins last night.. Guess it was a good thing to do :)
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Lol, now I understand why csgo keys price boosted up on steam matrketplace so instantly
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I don't understand, why would they sell keys for more than it's available in game store? Nobody is dumb enough to buy that.
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cs go key is an equialent of steam currency and many people use it just for trading, so they don't want to buy cs go on their account
since all grey market will be erased, only steam (community)marketplace allow you to buy(trade) these keys, so no wonder. It is something like a currency inflation(or deflation) caused by monopoly of steam
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Great now People will get scammed trying to sell or buy skins without 3rd party.
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Oh no, if the third party sites die I will stop getting invited to the best one where i get $10 for free!! if I just use this link. They are my only friends and Valve is now condemning me to an eternity of solitude.
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Good move in my opinion. People trying to get rich off of buying/selling/trading anything steam related needs to be stopped, but again that's just my opinion. The people who get rich playing these games most of the time don't even like the games they play. You can trust me because I played Aion for years, before during and after it was on Steam, and pretty much my entire guild was in it for the money, for the power leveling, for making a profit off of a game they(and I) genuinely hated.
And before someone says that we were doing something illegal, it's really no different than what happens on the steam marketplace. Buy low, sell or trade at a profit, rinse and repeat, sadly that's all most "gamers" these days play games for. We've gotten away from playing a game because it's actually fun to play. Now everybody and their mothers has a twitch channel or tries making a profit off of streaming or uploading or trading items for games that for the most part they hate.
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why, can u explain? whats changed if i want to trade my game A for your game B?
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Many people trade CS:GO Keys for games. Now we can't do that.
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Why can't?
https://www.steamtrades.com/ - Ppl still trade games for cs go keys, and cs go keys for games.
For me nothing changed. If i want to trade a game for 1 cs go - i'm ok if i can sell this key only week later
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good. the prices should crash to what they really are worth. cents. nothing more. i cant understand people who pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars for a cosmetic item that has no purpose.
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So after the new updated, items cannot be re-traded for seven day after you trade them.
Your opinions about this?
Will this new rule hold?
Release Notes for 3/29/2018
2018.03.29 -
[MISC]
– Fixed quad surround sound so it works again.
– Fixed a bug that could cause looping sounds, such as the hostage breathing sound, to be stuck on in some situations.
– Fixed a rare bug that caused spectators to sometimes hear water footsteps coming from players on dry ground.
– CS:GO items received in trade cannot be re-traded for seven days.
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