90% of them are pirates, anyway...
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/PayPal-Dispute-Filing-Window-Increasing-To-180-Days/td-p/22744865
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So soon SteamTrader site gonna be closed because of this new FAIL policy!
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Never understood why people can't just buy their games directly during the sales for cheap. That combined with sale watching at other legit key retailers and bundle sites means there shouldn't be any reason to risk the grey market. If you think you're entitled to price errors and regional pricing differences then you're in for a rough life.
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Easy for you to say, you don't pay in European prices
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I have my doubts that Steam is solely responsible for setting regional prices, they do however have to deal with all the scams, chargebacks, etc.
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I never understood people who can't comprehend that Steam isn't giving a fair price to all regions. For example, average USA user needs to work 5 hour to be able to afford a $60 game. Average east Europe user needs to work 5 days (50 hours) to afford the same game. Trading is (was?) a way to ameliorate that.
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If you're buying $60 game in a sale or bundle you're doing it wrong. Also Steam is not the only party setting prices, I suspect various laws and regulations are in effect and drive a lot of the price inflation.
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Reading through all these comments, you'd think access to cheap games is a God-given right. Pffft.
I don't mind people trying to game the system to get games on the cheap. But it annoys me when they cry unfairness when loopholes are closed.
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Exactly, it's the same people that get wound up when a retailer doesn't process the transaction for $5 on a price error on a brand new $60 game. That sort of thing should always be "Great if it works or move on if it doesn't".
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Welp, I guess we're going to see even more people getting scammed.
But they did find a way to counter price glitches and trading games for cheap during sales due to differing regional pricing. Even if that resulted in people buying keys, giving them more direct revenue than they might have received otherwise.
So GG, Valve.
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Bad move for traders, but you can still gift the game to someone immediately after purchase, then get the key(s) through a trade. Unfortunately, this allows room for scamming.
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Suddenly happy I didn't go grab a $50 steam card instead of a $20 one.
But hey, at least we now know the fall sale starts tomorrow. XD
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Of course they had to do this as SOON as I buy a gift for the first time...
No GG Valve. No GG... ;_;
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I can see what they're trying to do (limit chargebacks and other credit card fraud issues), but 30 days is a bit much. I've bought a fair number of items from SteamTrades, and this will make it a bit tougher, although I'm hoping I'll still be able to trade semi-normally with a couple trusted traders.
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No, the copies will be locked for 30 days. Actually, even if the 4-pack was not locked the copies will still be. (They're applying the same rule they used to apply to account with no purchases for over a year, but now it applies to everyone.)
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I just don't get it. Do i have to wait for 30 days to add games in my library after i get the games as a gift?
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If they buy a game, and then put it in inventory, they have to wait 30 days before trading it. They can outright gift it any time. It's a limit on trading.
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Darn it! Now it'll force me to either wait 30 days before giving away a game or using the gasp actual gift option rather than the trading window! This is unacceptable! >:(
(Then again I have the tendency to forget about any copies I intend to giveaway for quuiiiiiite a while, so it probably won't change anything. ^_^' )
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A middleman won't be able to help you. Games might be bought with a fraud card, so no getting back keys.
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So what will we do on steamgfits? Buy it 30 days in advance?
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Sorry for my bad english.
This changes don't bite me.
Every "good" for someone, "bad" for somebody else and vice verse.
In this world nothing is free. Something paid for that.
Valve cant give to all of us all games for free.
They have to do a compromises.
Because life is full of a compromises.
Valve was letting people to make real money at resale games all this time.
And this people still can do it for now. But for now it's not like before.
Why only hate Valve, and not say thanks to them for this opportunity for us all in the past.
Everything always can be worse.
Steam users still can gift games. And even trade.
I didn't sell my soul to Valve. They didn't try to kill me.
I can play games that I have. I can have more.
It's fine for now.
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Don't know if anyone mentioned before but tradeable 4-packs become untradeable after opening. I traded one, opened it and remaining 3 copies were untradeable.
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"All new games purchased as a gift and placed in the purchaser's inventory will be untradable for 30 days. The gift may still be gifted at any time. The only change is to trading.
We've made this change to make trading gifts a better experience for those receiving the gifts. We're hoping this lowers the number of people who trade for a game only to have the game revoked later due to issues with the purchaser's payment method."
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