I bought 5 copies of a game with high price to increase my CV fast one month ago.

Today I found it counted as a bundle game with 85% off of CV. But actually it's not belong to any bundle.

Even its in a bundle recently, I don't think it should discrease the CV early to ONE MONTH ago.

Is this means SG persuading to send the bundle game because any non-bundle game could be bundle game one day and the historical gifting CV will decrease?

I'm hurt now.

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EVERYTHING will be bundled in time, so it doesent matter :D

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All game will be bundled, all game will decrease in value.
Don't buy copies of the same game. I'm not sure but I don't think SG wants people buying games just to increase CV fast anyway.

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bundled items are bundled retroactively to the time it was bundled/extremely discounted. If you create the giveaway before that date you will get full CV

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this ^
& bundled games dont mean 100% of them were actually bundled.. 95+% discounts will cause them to be considered bundled as well..

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most 90% discounts too now because of foreign currency rates

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Often even 85% discount in ROW make them bundled because of other currencies.

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95% off the US store price, which means that it often is enough for a game to go on an 85% off sale on Steam for it to be bundled, but it still means that 3rd party sites, such as Humble and Amazon are "safe" to buy from if they get a big discount before the main steam store.

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It would probably be good to know the game it concerns, since one could look into if it was bundled before.

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Very-very likely the same discount made you think it's a good purchase pushed it into the bundle list. :\

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Yeah, it seems a bunch of things were added to the list recently. The adding to the list usually doesn't happen as soon as the bundle is there, but as soon as the person who adds the stuff notices and has the time. "Bundled" reasons could also be stuff you can't really notice, like the game becoming 90% off when the Russian prizes are compared to North-American.

I lost a bunch on Age of Empires III only yesterday :(

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As others have said, if a game has ever been below approximately 95% of the base price, including when converting from other countries/currencies, it will eventually be marked as bundled. If you give that game away after it was 95% off or more, even if it's not on the bundle list already when you give it away, it's extremely likely that it will eventually be added retroactively, and your CV for it will decrease.

In this case, I'm assuming from your gifting history you're talking about Deep Black Reloaded. It was added to the bundle list on February 3rd of this year, retroactive to November 16, 2014, meaning if you gave it away any time after that 2014 date, your CV now went down. It looks like this is probably because of the Steam price in Russia at the time in this case. On November 27, 2014, which is as far back as this listing goes - https://steamdb.info/app/204760/ , the price of the game on Steam in Russian rubles was 74p, which it looks like was approximately $1.50 U.S. at the time, 95% of the retail price of $29.99. It's also been that low, and even lower, in subsequent sales, including this winter's steam sale.

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Thanks for reply.

You are right, I bought it in this winter's sale.

It's a Chinese gift bought on steam, and create the giveaway with the region limitation in China. None business with Russian.

I don't mean to challenge you but I still think it's ... a bit unfair.

Maybe someone would criticize me, but I think I played under the rule, I like level up, in any games. Actually I queried about 100 games and made an excel calculation, not only the Deep Black. Now the calc laughing at me.

If it's saled like a bundle game in 2014, why it's added to the list so so so late? I thought the retroactive rule just means to make buffer time for the stuff to react with new bundles. But ... add to the list in Feb 2016 because of it's 2014's sale ... well, you are the rule maker.

As others said above. Since I can't query all the price in all countries in all time, it truly means all games are bundle games.

I will still make giveaways because I take it as a good ecosystem game, and well, a bit surprise when won a game. But to the rule I think I can't make any giveaways out of bundle games.

BTW: you also explain my another interrogative, I understand why SG have many Russian users.

Thanks to you all, I think the discussion ends.

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There's a lot of info in this thread here : http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/WxAeS/

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You can use steam.db to check current international discounts, and isthereanydeal.com to check historical. I'm not sure there's any place that functionally compares both at the same time, which makes retroactively bundling to over a year ago more liable to hurt legitimate purchasers than exploiters.
Go poke and prod cg to add more than a single person to the bundlers list, that's likely the only way these long-delayed drops aren't going to keep happening.

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